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    Quote Originally Posted by AzMandella View Post
    At least he produces something. All you produce is diareah of the mouth.
    Actually it's liberal pukes like him that are primarily responsible for the mess we are in today. I wonder if he got to clear the land for Solyndra?
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    The world has always been and will always be slanted toward those that have and I do not expect that to change. The great depression happened in no small part because so few had so much. The golden years of our country are considered by many to be to late 40's to early 60's when the middle class was so strong and growing. I can't find the data but I would love to see the income distribution for that era.
    The world is and always has been controlled by two things...greed and laziness (human nature) and you're right...that will never change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishful Thinking! View Post

    The world has always been and will always be slanted toward those that have and I do not expect that to change. The great depression happened in no small part because so few had so much. The golden years of our country are considered by many to be to late 40's to early 60's when the middle class was so strong and growing. I can't find the data but I would love to see the income distribution for that era.
    This is not totally correct. The Great Depression was not caused by the haves. They did very very well during the depression, and many got much wealthier. But the GREED was with the middle to upper middle classes and thats who lost the most. They saw the markets going up up up, and made the decision to jump in with the "big boys". The big boys started manipulating the market, drive stocks up by buying, then lots and lots of money would flow into that stock and drive it even higher, then the fat cats jumped out and down it would go. This went on for years, but flew out of control and we had the crash in 29.

    Think this is bullshit? Think about the current housing crash. Little guys drove op the cost of housing, not rich people. They only benefited from it. But there is not enough money in theor hands to cause that much escalation in housing. It takes millions of pieces of property to cause that much escalation. It was the ABILITY to purchase a home that drove up the prices.
    Its easier with a few rich people to raise a price stock a few points, but it took the public to make it sky rocket to the point it was way over priced.
    It was the ABILITY to purchase massive amounts of stock by massive amount of people that caused the stock crash. The rich encouraged the purchase, just as in the housing bubble, but it was the greed of the little guy that fueled it. Same goes for the greed of the equity withdrawl from homes. Need me a 36 ft Eliminator with twin Ilmors. Need me a new Ford F350 dualy crew cab to tow it with.
    You can say the rich caused both, but they needed the greed of the average american to pull it off.

    Wealth redristribution went balistic exactly when you dated it. Mid 1960s with LBJ's war on poverty. Due to that program, we now have a higher percentage of welfare and poverty than anytime in history. It comes from subsidizing non production. Pay a farmer not to grow corn, and he will grow wheat. Pay him to grow nothing, and he will grow nothing. Pay some to sit on their ass, and they will be all to happy to.

    Before the "war on poverty", welfare was a private thing in this country. Handled by missions, churches, and corporations. And they WATCHED where their money went and how it was spent. They actually did a reasonably good job without any outside interferance. But then, poor in those days did not mean you were entitled to a wide flat screen, cable, and a cell phone as necessities of life. It meant you were feed, clothed and had a roof over your head. Nothing more.



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    Thank god.
    One of you is enough to stomach.
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    That was for RTI, by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishful Thinking! View Post
    Please refresh or PM me about sump pump... my memory is very poor and fading fast!
    Actually I got it wrong it was "smog pump."

    Remember the scintillating insight he brought to the thread "bullshit ...workers unite... people stand up.. labor rights.....".
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    No reason to feel bad about helping an employee motivate and supplying bennies- Its a bipartisan thing.
    I supplied an apartment and a honda civic to 2-3d artists fresh out of school for the better part of 2 years- it was part of their compensation, but I felt I was getting the value I needed from them.

    As this forums lone "more toward the middle libertarian guy" I would say that between the two sides - I've seen hard core conservatives I know dole out more special favors and bennies to their employees (like your moped loaner) than my liberal California friends.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Dave View Post
    By loosening government red tape, gov restrictions, and ridiculous taxation or hidden taxation through the form of endless fees & permits on small business.

    This will encourage investment in small business which will create hiring, and bolster the tax base- Win Win

    Bring the US back to its state of a manufacturing nation and we will prosper again.

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    Unfortunately, every single one of those regulations has a price attached to it. A permit, a fee, a tax...and the people who benefit from those added fees (and who are in control, here) will never let any of that happen.
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    No surprise there, UD.

    Conservatives contribute far more charitably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    No surprise there, UD.

    Conservatives contribute far more charitably.
    Always have always will.
    Like I said, before LBJ stuck the governments nose into welfare, the poor and homeless were taken care of quite nicely by the public.
    what the government manage to do was grow the entitled recipients to a size private/public/organizational help could never hope to keep up. Its way beyond that now. Its exactly how the feds want it.



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