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    Default Obama, Dodd and Frank to Congo: I hope you starve(figurative).

    Found this and thought it was interesting that bills that are written to do one thing do random crap like this as well. Kind of like health care screwing up student loans.

    http://www.openmarket.org/2011/08/09...try-the-congo/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    Found this and thought it was interesting that bills that are written to do one thing do random crap like this as well. Kind of like health care screwing up student loans.

    http://www.openmarket.org/2011/08/09...try-the-congo/
    Thats the same law they are using against Gibson guitars. They knew full well what they were doing when they stuffed that into the wall street reform bill. Theres no surprise to them on this. Controlling EVERYTHING is what it is all about. The idea of free open markets is not in their vocabulary.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    Found this and thought it was interesting that bills that are written to do one thing do random crap like this as well. Kind of like health care screwing up student loans.

    The “Obama Law” Devastates Impoverished People in the World’s Second Poorest Country, The Congo
    How do the health care laws screw up student loans? Before, the government gave money to banks to loan to students. Now the government just loans the money directly to students, eliminating the middleman. How is that bad?

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    Its called governmental intrusion into free entrprise. The government is not a freek'n bank. Banks loan money. Not the government. They can guarantee loans, but IT IS NOT their business to make loans any more than it is their business to build cars. How long before they are making home loans and auto loans, ad issuing credit cards. Your scary ram. Your the very type Hilter needed to get his heels dug in. What a freek'n blind ass sheep you are.
    What difference does it make? Any idea what its going to be like for students that default on those loans to the TREASURY DEPT? Ever had any dealings with the IRS. You think the banks are screwing people now with these fees? Wait till you see what the government has in store for a defaulted student loan. The penalties will crush them.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    How do the health care laws screw up student loans? Before, the government gave money to banks to loan to students. Now the government just loans the money directly to students, eliminating the middleman. How is that bad?
    Hey Ram, Let me know how I can refinance with the government for all my private loans or even a private company for that matter

    Chase used to have a page for consolidation that you put your e-mail in so they can let you know when they offer it again. But now, that doesn't even exist because it will never happen again. Nobody else is offering consolidations as of 2 months ago when I last checked.

    So tell me Ram, How is being stuck with multiple loans at multiple companies, at various different variable interest rates without the ability to get a re-calculation of current credit and risk and a single payment with one company good for the education loan consumers?

    Lastly, tell me how this is about health care besides the fact it stress me out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    How do the health care laws screw up student loans? Before, the government gave money to banks to loan to students. Now the government just loans the money directly to students, eliminating the middleman. How is that bad?
    You can't see how this would give the government the ability to dictate and control what's being offered in college. Lets say you want a civil engineering degree. The local government loan officer looks that up and says "No, don't think we need that occupation, but how about you go to school as a biologist instead." This again would allow the government to pick and choose the winners and losers instead of being free to choose your path. Or how about loan forgiveness? Take the courses the government wants you to take, get the degree they think best suits their needs and after you graduate, if you work for say 10 years for the government, they forgive all or part of your loan. If you don't want to take what the government wants you to take, you don't get to go to college. This is again more government control where it doesn't belong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICECREAMAN View Post
    You can't see how this would give the government the ability to dictate and control what's being offered in college. Lets say you want a civil engineering degree. The local government loan officer looks that up and says "No, don't think we need that occupation, but how about you go to school as a biologist instead." This again would allow the government to pick and choose the winners and losers instead of being free to choose your path. Or how about loan forgiveness? Take the courses the government wants you to take, get the degree they think best suits their needs and after you graduate, if you work for say 10 years for the government, they forgive all or part of your loan. If you don't want to take what the government wants you to take, you don't get to go to college. This is again more government control where it doesn't belong.
    It is apparent you have no idea how the process works. Keep living in fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    It is apparent you have no idea how the process works. Keep living in fear.
    You never cease to amaze me with your "holier than thou, I'm the smartest guy in the room!" crap. In the light of day you are one seriously dumb person. What's apparent is all you can see is what's up the ass of whatever liberal puke you seem to follow as all knowing. You said what's the harm in eliminating the middle man in the process. Normally I'd say nothing, unless that allows the government more control and access to decisions they were never intended to be involved in. I don't think your capable of this, but if you can, look back 25 years ago at California. This was a free state, the land of opportunity, everyone wanting to be here living the dream. We slowly allowed or freedoms to be taken away one by one until now you can't breath without some government bureaucrat telling you that's not legal here, we're going to have to fine you. They created a system that forces everyone to do it their way. Daddy and Jerry Brown , Boxer, Pelosi, Feinstein, look when these stooges started RULING Ca and you can see the demise of a once great state. So to go back to your position that what's the big deal eliminating the middle man and allowing the government direct access to financing our educations..... Look at history dumb ass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    It is apparent you have no idea how the process works. Keep living in fear.
    We will keep living in fear and you will keep living in ignorance.
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    So the kids on Wall Street protesting high student loans are not happy with feds in the loan program or they are just totally ignorant of what happened to their loans or.....! So many protests so little time , I guess they all run together. Havent even figured out that the place they are using to relieve themselves (Wall Street area Mickey D's) is an evil capitalist enterprise or do happy meals come from Uncle Sam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    How do the health care laws screw up student loans? Before, the government gave money to banks to loan to students. Now the government just loans the money directly to students, eliminating the middleman. How is that bad?
    This type of SHIT is so far beyond the confines of our constitution that certainly YOU can see that, no???

    The TEA PARTY will eliminate this type of BS...

    What happens without the middle man is that the "affirmative action / entitlement" minded folks and the folks that have made "Desegregation" their main mission in life NO MATTER THE COST are free to GIVE free $$$ and preferred treatment to the "entitled... Thatís just not right...

    Itís not right at Berkley, itís not right when Gov.Perry does it AND itís not a function of our federal government... It's just plain not right and is a colossal OVERSTEPPING by the FEDs...
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    Government controls public school curriculms. By financing student loans, it gives them even more power to dictate what is taught in school.

    Plus government funded student loans is directly responsible for massive inflation in connection with tuition costs. Easy money allows schools to operate inefficiently thus putting upward pressure on tuition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    How do the health care laws screw up student loans? Before, the government gave money to banks to loan to students. Now the government just loans the money directly to students, eliminating the middleman. How is that bad?
    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    Hey Ram, Let me know how I can refinance with the government for all my private loans or even a private company for that matter

    Chase used to have a page for consolidation that you put your e-mail in so they can let you know when they offer it again. But now, that doesn't even exist because it will never happen again. Nobody else is offering consolidations as of 2 months ago when I last checked.

    So tell me Ram, How is being stuck with multiple loans at multiple companies, at various different variable interest rates without the ability to get a re-calculation of current credit and risk and a single payment with one company good for the education loan consumers?

    Lastly, tell me how this is about health care besides the fact it stress me out?
    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    It is apparent you have no idea how the process works. Keep living in fear.
    Still waiting since you asked, I replied, and then came back and replied to something else. Got nothing per usual?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    It is apparent you have no idea how the process works. Keep living in fear.
    What process? Socialism? That is EXACTLY how it works.
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