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    What is it about these two words when used in conjunction that leap off the page at you???

    What rights should an immigrant...... that is here illegally...... have?????

    Access to FREE TUITION at the expense of the U.S. taxpayer perhaps???

    California allows college aid to illegal immigrants - Yahoo! News
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    I've been trying to get my head rapped around the mess we as a country seem to be in. Part of me understands what people are trying to accomplish by marching on Wall st. I'm not talking about the ACORN, SEIU, or anarchists. I mean the few people who are there that really are hard working and just fed up with busting their ass and feeling like their still going back wards while the corporate suits seem to play in a game that's totally rigged in their favor. They can't lose even when they lose, you know to big to fail! I know this is going to come as a shock to everyone here but,.. politicians, WTF!!! What makes these ass hats think that once they're elected, they get to do what they want regardless of what their constituents tell them. I know, I know, it's not about us peons, it's about big business, corporate America, lobbyists, special interest, ideology, and birth rights, but seriously what do we have to do to get their attention?

    I'm not for violence, but I would personally like to knock the stupid right out of Jerry Brown right now! This bill is like all other immigration bills before it, is so hugely unpopular with the citizens of Ca, and yet he signs it anyway. Seriously???? I don't need to make a list of recent laws, bills, and regulations that have been past against the wishes of the masses, they've been well documented, but this is going to become violent if our elected officials don't start listening and working FOR the people.

    I've never marched or protested in my life, but if someone pulled up right know and said, "Lets go! We're going to go have a talk with Mr. Brown, we have him isolated at his office." I'd probably jump right in and go!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICECREAMAN View Post
    I've been trying to get my head rapped around the mess we as a country seem to be in. Part of me understands what people are trying to accomplish by marching on Wall st. I'm not talking about the ACORN, SEIU, or anarchists. I mean the few people who are there that really are hard working and just fed up with busting their ass and feeling like their still going backwards while the corporate suits seem to play in a game that's totally rigged in their favor. They can't lose even when they lose, you know to big to fail! I know this is going to come as a shock to everyone here but,.. politicians, WTF!!! What makes these ass hats think that once they're elected, they get to do what they want regardless of what their constichuants tell them. I know, I know, it's not about us peons, it's about big business, corporate America, lobbiests, special interest, ideology, and birth rights, but seriously what do we have to do to get their attention?

    I'm not for violance, but I would personally like to knock the stupid right out of Jerry Brown right now! This bill is like all other imigration bills before it, is so hugely unpopular with the citizens of Ca and yet he signs it anyway. Seriously???? I don't need to make a list of recent laws, bills, and regulations that have been past against the wishes of the masses, they've been well documented, but this is going to become violent if our elected officials don't start listening and working FOR the people.

    I've never marched or protested in my life, but if someone pulled up right know and said, "Lets go! We're going to go have a talk with Mr. Brown, we have him isolated at his office." I'd probably jump right in and go!!!!
    You know as well as I do that the citizens (read "voters") of CA have little or no say so about the direction of the State.

    CA is run by the 9th circuit, and district 8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    You know as well as I do that the citizens (read "voters") of CA have little or no say so about the direction of the State.

    CA is run by the 9th circuit, and district 8.
    Ya, I know this, but between the way this state is governed and the direction our nation is being taken,,,,,, I know I'm not alone when I say something has got to give!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICECREAMAN View Post
    Ya, I know this, but between the way this state is governed and the direction our nation is being taken,,,,,, I know I'm not alone when I say something has got to give!!!!
    Yep!! The current WH admin is effectively enabling and empowering the BS right down the line.
    It can not and will not change in states like CA until the head is cut off.
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    ICM, Although I share your sentiment about this and other things a small part of me kinda wants to see what will happen when liberals have total and complete control. Kinda like watching a train wreck happen, you know what the outcome will be and you know people are gonna get hurt but you just can't help but watch. Maybe it is because I have no control and more important no representation in this state. I can't think of one politican that represents and champions my political beliefs. Maybe it will be a "I told ya so" when the liberals completly ruin this once great state. Maybe it will be "I knew this was going to happen" when the Teachers Union completes their goals of rendering our schools completly useless and there isn't one taxpayer's kid left to educate. As long as we continue down this path the inevidable will happen, no more taxpayers, only tax consumers. No more private business to provide jobs, only government jobs. No more private unions as private business leave the state and take their jobs with them. And all that will be left is the "undocumented Democrats", welfare tit suckers, government employees and the union reps to administer over a rankless and fileless union.....A liberal utopia for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 058 View Post
    ICM, Although I share your sentiment about this and other things a small part of me kinda wants to see what will happen when liberals have total and complete control. Kinda like watching a train wreck happen, you know what the outcome will be and you know people are gonna get hurt but you just can't help but watch. Maybe it is because I have no control and more important no representation in this state. I can't think of one politican that represents and champions my political beliefs. Maybe it will be a "I told ya so" when the liberals completly ruin this once great state. Maybe it will be "I knew this was going to happen" when the Teachers Union completes their goals of rendering our schools completly useless and there isn't one taxpayer's kid left to educate. As long as we continue down this path the inevidable will happen, no more taxpayers, only tax consumers. No more private business to provide jobs, only government jobs. No more private unions as private business leave the state and take their jobs with them. And all that will be left is the "undocumented Democrats", welfare tit suckers, government employees and the union reps to administer over a rankless and fileless union.....A liberal utopia for sure.
    In the sales world it's called "filling up the pipeline" or "planting seeds" that will be harvested later... At some point these illegials will start squatting out litters of even MORE liberal and MORE TEET suckling kids, guess which party they will vote for... Job security for the thousands of State Of California employees...
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    As long as we continue down this path the inevitable will happen, no more taxpayers, only tax consumers. No more private business to provide jobs, only government jobs. No more private unions as private business leave the state and take their jobs with them. And all that will be left is the "undocumented Democrats", welfare tit suckers, government employees and the union reps to administer over a rankless and fileless union.....A liberal utopia for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manymustangs View Post
    In the sales world it's called "filling up the pipeline" or "planting seeds" that will be harvested later... At some point these illegials will start squatting out litters of even MORE liberal and MORE TEET suckling kids, guess which party they will vote for... Job security for the thousands of State Of California employees...
    These two statements are how I see it as well. I would love to ask Brown, Boxer, and or Pelosi for an honest, no BS answer, What happens when you run out of other peoples money? The way they've managed the state is unsustainable.
    I know I'm looking to leave Ca and take my small business with me. I'm talking to my kids constantly about moving out of CA before they establish to many roots as adults. I know businesses will continue to leave as they continue to regulate the shit out of all industries that produce anything. What's the time line before total melt down? Five years, 10 years, 25 years, this can't continue. I think I heard that Hispanics will be the majority race in CA with in 10 years. How many of our elected officials have Hispanic sir names? Seriously, is the agenda of Sacramento to pillage Ca until there's nothing worth while left and then give it back to Mexico?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICECREAMAN View Post
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    These two statements are how I see it as well. I would love to ask Brown, Boxer, and or Pelosi for an honest, no BS answer, What happens when you run out of other peoples money? The way they've managed the state is unsustainable.
    I know I'm looking to leave Ca and take my small business with me. I'm talking to my kids constantly about moving out of CA before they establish to many roots as adults. I know businesses will continue to leave as they continue to regulate the shit out of all industries that produce anything. What's the time line before total melt down? Five years, 10 years, 25 years, this can't continue. I think I heard that Hispanics will be the majority race in CA with in 10 years. How many of our elected officials have Hispanic sir names? Seriously, is the agenda of Sacramento to pillage Ca until there's nothing worth while left and then give it back to Mexico?[/QUOTE] When the liberals are done Mexico won't want it.
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    I'd like to ask Rick Perry the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICECREAMAN View Post
    I've been trying to get my head rapped around the mess we as a country seem to be in. Part of me understands what people are trying to accomplish by marching on Wall st. I'm not talking about the ACORN, SEIU, or anarchists. I mean the few people who are there that really are hard working and just fed up with busting their ass and feeling like their still going back wards while the corporate suits seem to play in a game that's totally rigged in their favor. They can't lose even when they lose, you know to big to fail! I know this is going to come as a shock to everyone here but,.. politicians, WTF!!! What makes these ass hats think that once they're elected, they get to do what they want regardless of what their constituents tell them. I know, I know, it's not about us peons, it's about big business, corporate America, lobbyists, special interest, ideology, and birth rights, but seriously what do we have to do to get their attention?

    I'm not for violence, but I would personally like to knock the stupid right out of Jerry Brown right now! This bill is like all other immigration bills before it, is so hugely unpopular with the citizens of Ca, and yet he signs it anyway. Seriously???? I don't need to make a list of recent laws, bills, and regulations that have been past against the wishes of the masses, they've been well documented, but this is going to become violent if our elected officials don't start listening and working FOR the people.

    I've never marched or protested in my life, but if someone pulled up right know and said, "Lets go! We're going to go have a talk with Mr. Brown, we have him isolated at his office." I'd probably jump right in and go!!!!

    When that train leaves let me know. I am in. I tell my family this all the time. I also tell my 21 year old and 18 year find something to do that you like and could move any where. For me, I wish, I could move my business out of this state. Or, if someone comes around, with a lot of money. I would sell out and "Get The F Out Here." With the way the politicians and public unions are destroying this once great state. I give it 10 years before it sinks into oblivion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy View Post
    I'd like to ask Rick Perry the same thing.
    Speak up man, I cant hear ya...

    Id like to ask him the SAME THING... I cant get past this one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by brgrcru View Post
    When that train leaves let me know. I am in. I tell my family this all the time. I also tell my 21 year old and 18 year find something to do that you like and could move any where. For me, I wish, I could move my business out of this state. Or, if someone comes around, with a lot of money. I would sell out and "Get The F Out Here." With the way the politicians and public unions are destroying this once great state. I give it 10 years before it sinks into oblivion.
    They made a movie about when this happens quite a few years ago...


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