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    Default Ok, so you dont really like Bachmann for whatever reason...

    BUT which of these two folks would you rather have guarding your tax dollars???

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    Its my thread so I have the right to make a double post...

    Ill tell you this, I would vote for this lady in a HEARTBEAT... She is as smart as a whip, this lady is sharp and deserves a spot in the upcoming NEW administration...

    She is a wizard on finance and financial lending/reform which is an area that could use ALOT of work in the WH...

    I dont care what capacity she shows up in at the WH in 2012 as long as she is in...

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    Only if Romney, Gingrich or Huntsman wins... Tonight in the debate she referenced Cain's 999 plan as "666 plan, devil in the details" . She also slammed Perry as a closet democrat big government guy. She burned two of the Tea Party faves! She is very photogenic

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    I like her too 2MM.

    I'm getting tired of only hearing 999 from Cain to be honest and it definitely didn't help in my opinion to hear him say Greenspan in regards to who in the Fed over the past 40 years he would use as an example of what characteristics qualities he would look for in appointing that position. GREENSPAN???

    I like Bachman, Newt and Santorum the best. My favorite comment of the night was when Newt finished up in his 30 seconds saying that anyone at that table would be better than Obama. He is the only one that really isn't dissing the other in these debates. All of the rest are enjoying the jabs they are giving.

    Mitt just doesn't do it for me.

    Perry is real vague. The dream act is an issue for me however I am still open minded to hear more from him. I want more specifics from him and do like that he wants power in the individual States hands not the Feds, as it should be.

    Anyway, I know the question was only in regards to Bachman so on that note....I would vote for Bachman. What is there to not like about her? I know, she is a woman and therefore unelectable.



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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Only if Romney, Gingrich or Huntsman wins... Tonight in the debate she referenced Cain's 999 plan as "666 plan, devil in the details" . She also slammed Perry as a closet democrat big government guy. She burned two of the Tea Party faves! She is very photogenic
    I figured a fancy lingquist like yourself would have caught the play on words... with regard to "when you turn the 999 upside down you get 666 because the devil is in the details"

    Zombie, you got see the way a person WHO knows the numbers/details talks and thinks... All the "plan" in the world isn't worth SQUAT if there isn't well thought out details to back up the plan and no hidden surprises and oversights INSTEAD of Obamas rhetoric filled "plans"...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Understood View Post
    I like her too 2MM.


    Anyway, I know the question was only in regards to Bachman so on that note....I would vote for Bachman. What is there to not like about her? I know, she is a woman and therefore unelectable.
    VERY electable in my book I'm tired of looking at the old wrinkley men with comb over haircuts OR the FUGLY fatties and wrinkly hags of the democratic party... I wager she is the smartest and toughest person in the race...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manymustangs View Post
    Ill tell you this, I would vote for this lady in a HEARTBEAT... She is as smart as a whip, this lady is sharp and deserves a spot in the upcoming NEW administration...

    She is a wizard on finance and financial lending/reform which is an area that could use ALOT of work in the WH...

    I dont care what capacity she shows up in at the WH in 2012 as long as she is in...

    This post ^ definitely reveals a lot about you, your beliefs, and much, much more that I'm not going to mention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    This post ^ definitely reveals a lot about you, your beliefs, and much, much more that I'm not going to mention.
    As afraid of the TEA PARTY as Peeloozer and Reid and Boxer and the other radical lefties are, they are shaking in their boots and know that this lady will expose those phoneys in a HEARTBEAT as a bunch of WOLVES in sheeps clothes...

    She WILL kick some ass and take NO prisoners... She's a great lady and deserves MUCHO consideration...

    Maybe not quite as a presidential candidate just yet but she definately has it going on...

    DO a little homework on her Ram, watch some of her interviews... She knows her stuf and could make a TON of $$$ in the private sector managing massive investment portfolios for banks or corps but she has chosen a life of TRUE SERVICE to this nation to restore honor and dignity to D.C....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    This post ^ definitely reveals a lot about you, your beliefs, and much, much more that I'm not going to mention.
    It sure does. It shows he's far smarter than you will ever be. I'm sure you believe in Barney far moreso and wished he'd respect all over your face.
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    I think it's interesting reading all the Conservative/Republican blogs per say.....and reading all the negative comments about Bachman. I am amazed at how ignorant most of them are. I am convinced these people don't know anything about her other than the liberal media highlights when they like to make someone smart look stupid. That along with her upside down comment to Cain last night in regards to 999 are what these people judge her on.

    Listen, I realize she doesn't have a chance in hell of winning even though I am not sure that would be true if people were willing to find out what she stands for. She is the true Conservative running. She was raised by her Mom, parents divroced when she was a kid and she has worked her way to where she is. She has created small business all the while rasising how many kids that are not even her own creation. She emphasizing the debt the most in the political debates and the importance of not spending 1.2 trillion more than what you take in and what effect it will have on our children.

    Anyway, She is WAY smarter than Obama or Biden. I don't believe she has a corrupt bone in her body and she will stand up to the corrupt Washington political machine........


    Here is her plan for creating jobs and the economy. Remember she has been outspoken on Obamacare and the Dodd-Frank bill from the very beginning.

    Eleven Points of “American Jobs, Right Now” Blueprint:
    1. REPATRIATION. More than 1.2 trillion United States dollars could be brought back to America in days as an immediate “stimulus” if the government would zero out the tax rate on that money until December 31, and then permanently keep it here in the U.S. if taxed at a rate of 5 percent. Foreign earning totaling over $1.2 trillion is more than the President’s failed stimulus and it won’t come out of taxpayer wallets. It would increase the value of the dollar, provide valuable capital for the job creators in this country and pump tremendous amounts of money into our economy.
    2. CUT SPENDING AND GOVERNMENT. I have already voted to cut federal spending in the years ahead, every single time I have had the opportunity. In addition, I would phase out quasi-governmental enterprises, such as Fannie and Freddie, and eliminate duplicative government programs and costs. We must decrease government salaries to bring them in line with their private sector counterparts, and we must decrease the number of government employees. Over-spending by the government hurts job creation by devaluing the dollar and stealing capital from the private sector.
    3. REPEAL OBAMACARE. Healthcare is one-sixth of the U.S. economy and this unconstitutional takeover of healthcare by the federal government is creating crippling uncertainty for employers across this country. This legislation does nothing to address the true problem with our healthcare system – cost – and will cost states trillions. I believe it is an intentional backstop to imploding healthcare entitlement programs — Medicare and Medicaid — to transition toward a single payer-system. This is the number one hindrance to job creation in the United States (according to a recently released UBS study).
    4. CUT TAXES. I’ve demonstrated a firm commitment to cutting spending and balancing the budget. We need to reduce the number of tax brackets, repeal taxes outlined in Obamacare, fix the Alternative Minimum Tax, and eliminate the Death Tax. In addition, we must make the corporate tax code simpler and fairer, and allow U.S. companies that generate earnings overseas to bring back those profits and invest them in American jobs and growth.
    5. REPEAL THE JOBS AND HOUSING DESTRUCTION ACT, ALSO KNOWN AS DODD-FRANK. This law tightened regulations on banks, made it harder for Americans to obtain credit, and failed to address the systemic problem that caused the Wall Street collapse — leverage. This 849-page bill calls for 400 new sets of rules that will be written on 6000 Federal Register pages, all written by bureaucrats, many of whom have never worked in the financial services field. The law also creates a potentially intrusive Financial Services Consumer Protection Bureau that is not accountable to Congress and which has but a vague mandate to combat misconduct – so in the wrong hands, it could cause its own kind of misconduct.
    6. LEGALIZE AMERICAN ENERGY PRODUCTION AND AMERICA’S NATURAL RESOURCES. This could create 1.4 million jobs, bringing $800 billion of new revenue into the U.S. Treasury, and increasing domestic energy supplies by 50 percent. The price of energy has a direct impact on nearly ever facet of our lives. We have to abandon the parochial and political energy policies of the past and install a comprehensive energy plan that not only reduces our reliance on unfriendly foreign regimes, but also creates millions of American jobs and generates increased tax revenues. According to the Congressional Research Service, the U.S. has more energy potential than any other country in the world. We should use that potential. It is a better policy to create American jobs and explore in an environmentally-sound way, than to rely on foreign dictators who give little regard to the environment. This includes specific strategies like reviving the logging, timber, mining and metals industries, and bringing federal lands back into productive activity by repealing radical environmental laws that kill access to natural resources.
    7. REPEAL JOB KILLING REGULATIONS. America’s job creators and small business owners have lost economic liberty under the weight of $1.8 billion annually in compliance costs with government regulations. Together we sent $2.2 trillion in taxes to the federal government this year. By comparison, job creators spend nearly as much annually to comply with bureaucratic mandates. Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, and the string of mandates and rules from the Environmental Protection Agency — as well as other agencies — are creating such incredible uncertainty in the market. The House Republican leadership has identified 219 planned Obama administration regulations, each of which will cost the economy more than $100 million. This red tape rampage must stop.
    8. INCREASE EXPORTS. This President has been holding hostage trade deals with Colombia, Panama and South Korea as he tries to negotiate favor for Big Labor. The world needs to know that we are open for business and U.S. Companies need to expand beyond our borders to the 95 percent of people who do not live here.
    9. UNLEASH AMERICAN INVESTMENT. By eliminating unnecessary taxes and regulation, and expanding trade, we will create an incentive for investment in America again. We must do whatever it takes to restore our ability to manufacture here in the U.S. We can do this by reforming the tax code, providing incentive for growth, and allowing the private sector to control the market with little government involvement.
    10. PAVE A PATHWAY FOR INNOVATION. Recent reports indicated that the United States has now slipped to 5th in the competitiveness rankings, and 47th in education. How do we expect to lead the world economically when we are not doing what is needed to inspire and foster innovation here at home? The future of the American economy lies with the innovation of this and future generations.
    11. ENFORCE AMERICAN IMMIGRATION LAWS. The failure of the federal government to enforce its immigration laws costs federal, state and local governments billions of dollars annually. Our nation was founded on the rule of law, and we must ensure U.S. immigration laws are respected and enforced not only to preserve our national security, but to protect federal, state, and local budgets, and to curb the unfair strain on our country’s job markets.
    “My solutions are simple. We need to cut government spending, legalize America’s God-given natural resources, and stop taxing investment and productivity,” Bachmann said. “In other words, we need to do what growing economies do

    I also thought it was interesting that Numbers USA gave her the highest grade when it comes to illegal immigration. Another important issue.
    https://www.numbersusa.com/content/a...n-stances.html



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Understood View Post
    I think it's interesting reading all the Conservative/Republican blogs per say.....and reading all the negative comments about Bachman. I am amazed at how ignorant most of them are. I am convinced these people don't know anything about her other than the liberal media highlights when they like to make someone smart look stupid. That along with her upside down comment to Cain last night in regards to 999 are what these people judge her on.

    Listen, I realize she doesn't have a chance in hell of winning even though I am not sure that would be true if people were willing to find out what she stands for. She is the true Conservative running. She was raised by her Mom, parents divroced when she was a kid and she has worked her way to where she is. She has created small business all the while rasising how many kids that are not even her own creation. She emphasizing the debt the most in the political debates and the importance of not spending 1.2 trillion more than what you take in and what effect it will have on our children.

    Anyway, She is WAY smarter than Obama or Biden. I don't believe she has a corrupt bone in her body and she will stand up to the corrupt Washington political machine........


    Here is her plan for creating jobs and the economy. Remember she has been outspoken on Obamacare and the Dodd-Frank bill from the very beginning.

    Eleven Points of “American Jobs, Right Now” Blueprint:
    1. REPATRIATION. More than 1.2 trillion United States dollars could be brought back to America in days as an immediate “stimulus” if the government would zero out the tax rate on that money until December 31, and then permanently keep it here in the U.S. if taxed at a rate of 5 percent. Foreign earning totaling over $1.2 trillion is more than the President’s failed stimulus and it won’t come out of taxpayer wallets. It would increase the value of the dollar, provide valuable capital for the job creators in this country and pump tremendous amounts of money into our economy.
    2. CUT SPENDING AND GOVERNMENT. I have already voted to cut federal spending in the years ahead, every single time I have had the opportunity. In addition, I would phase out quasi-governmental enterprises, such as Fannie and Freddie, and eliminate duplicative government programs and costs. We must decrease government salaries to bring them in line with their private sector counterparts, and we must decrease the number of government employees. Over-spending by the government hurts job creation by devaluing the dollar and stealing capital from the private sector.
    3. REPEAL OBAMACARE. Healthcare is one-sixth of the U.S. economy and this unconstitutional takeover of healthcare by the federal government is creating crippling uncertainty for employers across this country. This legislation does nothing to address the true problem with our healthcare system – cost – and will cost states trillions. I believe it is an intentional backstop to imploding healthcare entitlement programs — Medicare and Medicaid — to transition toward a single payer-system. This is the number one hindrance to job creation in the United States (according to a recently released UBS study).
    4. CUT TAXES. I’ve demonstrated a firm commitment to cutting spending and balancing the budget. We need to reduce the number of tax brackets, repeal taxes outlined in Obamacare, fix the Alternative Minimum Tax, and eliminate the Death Tax. In addition, we must make the corporate tax code simpler and fairer, and allow U.S. companies that generate earnings overseas to bring back those profits and invest them in American jobs and growth.
    5. REPEAL THE JOBS AND HOUSING DESTRUCTION ACT, ALSO KNOWN AS DODD-FRANK. This law tightened regulations on banks, made it harder for Americans to obtain credit, and failed to address the systemic problem that caused the Wall Street collapse — leverage. This 849-page bill calls for 400 new sets of rules that will be written on 6000 Federal Register pages, all written by bureaucrats, many of whom have never worked in the financial services field. The law also creates a potentially intrusive Financial Services Consumer Protection Bureau that is not accountable to Congress and which has but a vague mandate to combat misconduct – so in the wrong hands, it could cause its own kind of misconduct.
    6. LEGALIZE AMERICAN ENERGY PRODUCTION AND AMERICA’S NATURAL RESOURCES. This could create 1.4 million jobs, bringing $800 billion of new revenue into the U.S. Treasury, and increasing domestic energy supplies by 50 percent. The price of energy has a direct impact on nearly ever facet of our lives. We have to abandon the parochial and political energy policies of the past and install a comprehensive energy plan that not only reduces our reliance on unfriendly foreign regimes, but also creates millions of American jobs and generates increased tax revenues. According to the Congressional Research Service, the U.S. has more energy potential than any other country in the world. We should use that potential. It is a better policy to create American jobs and explore in an environmentally-sound way, than to rely on foreign dictators who give little regard to the environment. This includes specific strategies like reviving the logging, timber, mining and metals industries, and bringing federal lands back into productive activity by repealing radical environmental laws that kill access to natural resources.
    7. REPEAL JOB KILLING REGULATIONS. America’s job creators and small business owners have lost economic liberty under the weight of $1.8 billion annually in compliance costs with government regulations. Together we sent $2.2 trillion in taxes to the federal government this year. By comparison, job creators spend nearly as much annually to comply with bureaucratic mandates. Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, and the string of mandates and rules from the Environmental Protection Agency — as well as other agencies — are creating such incredible uncertainty in the market. The House Republican leadership has identified 219 planned Obama administration regulations, each of which will cost the economy more than $100 million. This red tape rampage must stop.
    8. INCREASE EXPORTS. This President has been holding hostage trade deals with Colombia, Panama and South Korea as he tries to negotiate favor for Big Labor. The world needs to know that we are open for business and U.S. Companies need to expand beyond our borders to the 95 percent of people who do not live here.
    9. UNLEASH AMERICAN INVESTMENT. By eliminating unnecessary taxes and regulation, and expanding trade, we will create an incentive for investment in America again. We must do whatever it takes to restore our ability to manufacture here in the U.S. We can do this by reforming the tax code, providing incentive for growth, and allowing the private sector to control the market with little government involvement.
    10. PAVE A PATHWAY FOR INNOVATION. Recent reports indicated that the United States has now slipped to 5th in the competitiveness rankings, and 47th in education. How do we expect to lead the world economically when we are not doing what is needed to inspire and foster innovation here at home? The future of the American economy lies with the innovation of this and future generations.
    11. ENFORCE AMERICAN IMMIGRATION LAWS. The failure of the federal government to enforce its immigration laws costs federal, state and local governments billions of dollars annually. Our nation was founded on the rule of law, and we must ensure U.S. immigration laws are respected and enforced not only to preserve our national security, but to protect federal, state, and local budgets, and to curb the unfair strain on our country’s job markets.
    “My solutions are simple. We need to cut government spending, legalize America’s God-given natural resources, and stop taxing investment and productivity,” Bachmann said. “In other words, we need to do what growing economies do

    I also thought it was interesting that Numbers USA gave her the highest grade when it comes to illegal immigration. Another important issue.
    https://www.numbersusa.com/content/a...n-stances.html

    Lets think about #1 / REPATRIATION for a few...

    THis is money just sitting out there for the taking... BUT OBjama is saying NOPE, NO DEAL, we won't negotiate... (the very thing he is accusing the REpublicans of)

    HOWEVER, every day of every week there are people with FEDERAL tax leins that are negotiated down and agreed upon by the IRS... This happens on a daily basis...

    NOW, the corps can choose to keep the $$ here, or there or just about anywhere BUT OBjamanza doesnt really care if it is brought back to the U.S. or not, clearly he doesnt... Thats alot of office upgrades, equipment upgrades, new expansions... 1.5 trillion is ALOT of scratch and at 5% tax rate to the IRS...

    Is this guy really that STUPID???

    This one is such a no brainer, and what about next year and the year after, is he saying to the corps "go piss up a rope, we dont want your trillions here, leave them in Amsterdam"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzMandella View Post
    It sure does. It shows he's far smarter than you will ever be. I'm sure you believe in Barney far moreso and wished he'd respect all over your face.
    I find it strange that a thought like that would even enter into your head Marvin. What kind of sick, twisted thoughts do you think about all day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Understood View Post
    Listen, I realize she doesn't have a chance in hell of winning even though I am not sure that would be true if people were willing to find out what she stands for. She is the true Conservative running.
    Bachman is anything but a true Conservative. She is Big Government AND Big regulation.
    She wants to use Big Government and it's resources to regulate marriage. She wants to Regulate a woman's right to choose vi Big Government. She wants to Regulate and control what grown adults choose to smoke. She wants to control people by legislating the decimation of people's free will. The woman is not only inept on social issues, but has no grip on American Culture either.
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