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    Didn't something big happen last time the top 1% held as much income as they do now? I just can't remember what... anyone know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishful Thinking! View Post


    Didn't something big happen last time the top 1% held as much income as they do now? I just can't remember what... anyone know?


    Did it make a "crash" sound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Did it make a "crash" sound?
    It did...but now all I hear is Crickets.
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    Can one of you economic geniuses tell me how all the money get to the top. Do they steal it while every one is sleeping. Did Rockefeller rob banks, Ford and Carnegie, rob trains and payroll windows? How did they get all the cash. There is no way in hell intelligent people like yourselves handed it to them. Not a chance in hell that happened. Why would full grown educated adults hand millions....billions of hard earned cash to people that already have more than they could ever spend.

    When Henry Ford was building one of the largest employee corporations on the planet, are you suggesting that he should have been stopped. What would all those non employees do instead? Are you suggesting he only be allowed to build 100 cars a year and allow others to build the other 900,000 cars. Would that help with the cost of the car. Could he have lowered the cost 50% in 10 years like he did, while building a better car at the same time. How could he do that while building 100 a year?

    Last, what really caused the crash in 29? Was it over inflated stock prices. How did they get over inflated. By the rich. ?They had that much cash and Deliberatly drove up the market only to lose it? Really? Who drove up thje prices the housing prices. those selling, or those buying?

    Think gentlemen? The seller or the buyer controls the price of anything?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Quickjet View Post
    It did...but now all I hear is Crickets.
    Power to the people, long live the Bolshevicks!!!

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    I'm sure you can relate to what this lady is trying to say right???


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    That right there 2MM is why the ENTIRE work force the ENTIRE world is kikcking our ass, and why the nmoney rises to the top in this country. The bitch with money would be a danger to herself and society. We can't safely allow the dumb bitch to have money. She would be safer with a load pistol. If you gave her money, she would just buy something like a Iphone, and make Steven Jobs widow even richer. She might buy gasoline and further fund the oil companies. We can not trust her with cash. She IS the rise to the top monetary problem. SHE made them that rich!

    It s amazing how much the democrates and the entitlement system has dumbed down this country. Country hicks in the fields during the depression weren't that ignorant, and they had no radio, and half could read a paper, and yet the spoke and tought more intelligently than that bitch. And she has a degree. God help us!



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Can one of you economic geniuses tell me how all the money get to the top. Do they steal it while every one is sleeping. Did Rockefeller rob banks, Ford and Carnegie, rob trains and payroll windows? How did they get all the cash. There is no way in hell intelligent people like yourselves handed it to them. Not a chance in hell that happened. Why would full grown educated adults hand millions....billions of hard earned cash to people that already have more than they could ever spend.

    When Henry Ford was building one of the largest employee corporations on the planet, are you suggesting that he should have been stopped. What would all those non employees do instead? Are you suggesting he only be allowed to build 100 cars a year and allow others to build the other 900,000 cars. Would that help with the cost of the car. Could he have lowered the cost 50% in 10 years like he did, while building a better car at the same time. How could he do that while building 100 a year?

    Last, what really caused the crash in 29? Was it over inflated stock prices. How did they get over inflated. By the rich. ?They had that much cash and Deliberatly drove up the market only to lose it? Really? Who drove up thje prices the housing prices. those selling, or those buying?

    Think gentlemen? The seller or the buyer controls the price of anything?
    The money is supposed to go to the top. That's how it works. People borrow from banks, it cycles and comes back to the banks at a profit. That is Democracy and capitalism. Nothing wrong with that and I support it, however, right now the money is at the top and setting up camp. That chokes the economy. You are trying to argue a point that no one is arguing. The trick isn't getting the money to the top as that happends naturally. The trick is to get it cycling again via spending. If the banks dont lend then consumers can't spend and it trickles down leaving unemployment and debt in its path.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manymustangs View Post
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    I'm sure you can relate to what this lady is trying to say right???


    Not at all. Why, do you? She's a product of "Your Guy". Sounds to me like she is just as "Government take care of me" as you are just in a different area. I garuntee you that she prays to Jesus.....Sounds like her prayers are falling on deaf ears. Who cares anyways as she is irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishful Thinking! View Post


    Didn't something big happen last time the top 1% held as much income as they do now? I just can't remember what... anyone know?
    Is this nonsense for real? From your own avatar and info I'm guessing you're replacement cost on your two boats and vehicle to tow those boats is somewhere in the neighborhood of 200k+. And correct me if I'm wrong you posted in a previous thread you sling sandwhich's for a living. But somehow, you, me and the rest of us are being screwed by corporate CEO's. Really! Look in the mirror, a true hard look, not some bs glance. When these clowns in DC push the whole class warfare bs, they're not aiming at the CEO's on WS. Those guys/gals know it's little more than bs rhetoric. They're targeting you, me and all the other pour sob's that actually work and produce something. When O and the other clowns beat the class warfare drum and spew tax the rich rhetoric, they're not aiming at the guys/gals at the top, they're aiming at you and me. Get a clue, once they have people supporting the class warfare crap, they break it off in every producing man and woman in this country. If you truely are slinging sandwhich's, my hats off to you, because where I'm guessing your margins are your busting your ass to maintain your lifestyle. Not to mention you're very successfull in the lower scale food sales business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quickjet View Post
    The money is supposed to go to the top. That's how it works. People borrow from banks, it cycles and comes back to the banks at a profit. That is Democracy and capitalism. Nothing wrong with that and I support it, however, right now the money is at the top and setting up camp. That chokes the economy. You are trying to argue a point that no one is arguing. The trick isn't getting the money to the top as that happends naturally. The trick is to get it cycling again via spending. If the banks dont lend then consumers can't spend and it trickles down leaving unemployment and debt in its path.
    Think QJ, think! Are the banks hoarding, or are the corporations hoarding? Or both? Does it really matter who as much why. Have you read my other posts? Do you get it? Do you blame them. I don;t want to borrow money so why should they. And if I don't want to borrow money, think that there others that feel the same way? Do you want me and millions of others to buy a new car or truck, new boat, new wide screen? then you need to get the asshat out of the oval office. Other wise I will sit on my cash!!!!!!!! And if you build cars, you have a problem, and your union caused it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    Can one of you economic geniuses tell me how all the money get to the top. Do they steal it while every one is sleeping. Did Rockefeller rob banks, Ford and Carnegie, rob trains and payroll windows?
    And the term "Robber Baron" was created because they always delt fair, morally and within the law?
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    Quote Originally Posted by redneckcharlie View Post
    Is this nonsense for real? From your own avatar and info I'm guessing you're replacement cost on your two boats and vehicle to tow those boats is somewhere in the neighborhood of 200k+. And correct me if I'm wrong you posted in a previous thread you sling sandwhich's for a living. .
    Please, slow down a little. Open you mind just for a minute. You and most here are totally missing my point. It is not about people working hard and making money or even a ton of money. It is about an elite class of people raping our country at the expense of ALL of us. I can not bend, change or disreguard Tax law or any other law for that matter with out being punished. Yet this class of people can.

    Madoff stole pennies on the dollar compared to what the poeple did during the housing crash. How many of them are in jail? Jail? Hell they got bailed out!

    The super rich can not keep getting richer... Charlie, you seem to think they can. How much of our nations income do you think they can take and there still be a functioning country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishful Thinking! View Post
    Please, slow down a little. Open you mind just for a minute. You and most here are totally missing my point. It is not about people working hard and making money or even a ton of money. It is about an elite class of people raping our country at the expense of ALL of us. I can not bend, change or disreguard Tax law or any other law for that matter with out being punished. Yet this class of people can.

    Madoff stole pennies on the dollar compared to what the poeple did during the housing crash. How many of them are in jail? Jail? Hell they got bailed out!

    The super rich can not keep getting richer... Charlie, you seem to think they can. How much of our nations income do you think they can take and there still be a functioning country?
    Can you give us some examples of the said rapists???

    Are we talking about Ivan Boesky, Martha Steward, Bernie Madoff??? OR are we talking about Frankllin Raines and James A. Johnson??? Lets be specific ok???
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    [QUOTE=Wishful Thinking!;1515349]Please, slow down a little. Open you mind just for a minute. You and most here are totally missing my point. It is not about people working hard and making money or even a ton of money. It is about an elite class of people raping our country at the expense of ALL of us. I can not bend, change or disreguard Tax law or any other law for that matter with out being punished. Yet this class of people can.

    Madoff stole pennies on the dollar compared to what the poeple did during the housing crash. How many of them are in jail? Jail? Hell they got bailed out!

    The super rich can not keep getting richer... Charlie, you seem to think they can. How much of our nations income do you think they can take and there still be a functioning country?
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    Madoff is in jail. If you do something illegal, you should be punished. Absolutley.

    Where does our nation get income from? It's not like the Nation just had it and some rich guys got together and stole it.
    Isn't prosperity a good thing? Success is created by providing something others want. Do you want the government to take over?
    Without the job creators, we don't have jobs, we don't have products and or supplies to purchase, etc....it's been commented over and over in these threads......they need us as we need them.
    Government interference is why things are not functioning. Most here agree that the companies should of had to file bk and not get bailed out. If you were one of those companies and the government said hey we are going to bail you out, would you say, no?

    Society is made up of different people. There are people quite content doing absolutley nothing and living relative to what they get from the government. ( Then you have those that bitch and blame it on the rich)

    Then you have people that have good jobs, they make a decent pay, they get benefits...and they live relative to what they earn.

    You have small business owners who are succesful but choose not to grow, they are content with their income and live relative to that.

    Then you have go getters....they keep investing more into growing their company... employing more people, etc.....

    It's all relative. You could own an individual sandwhich shop and turn that into a franchise. Everyday people do this stuff.....it's called success. It doesnt mean the guy with one shop isnt, or the guy who works for the sba isnt or the guy who works for the union isn't.

    Goverment takes over wallstreet, then corporations, then SBA's are next.....now what?????? We all work for the communist government?

    I just don't understand people hating success.

    The playing field is even. Political influence sways from the left to the right and always has. The people who have a strangle hold are the politicians who recieve life sentences making decisions for the rest....lets do something with term limits, etc....like we would ever get those laws passed. Super Rich exist on both sides of the isle. It's human nature for anyone to support the side they believe has their own individual self interest.

    I would wish you well wishful thinking if you grew your business to the top. I would say, he did it, so can I.

    At the end of the day, what is it your looking for....you keep saying an even playing field....tell me what you would do to get that field your looking for?

    BTW, I recently read a report that was written a few years back, I will find it.....anyway, being poor in America isn't as bad as you think. Many of the poor own homes, have houses with pools, own TV's , car's etc.......



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