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    It's my job! Keeping reality alive here !!

    So all the anti-social programs, welfare, anti-tax leech, and all around defenders of the rich classes can see that they scam the system as much and for less reasons than the welfare babe on the video.

    Tea Party should be all over this rip-off of tax dollars by these greedy turds


    Coburn Report: Welfare for Millionaires - The Daily Beast
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    Bot Zombie, you have to protect and assist the job creators. Those milionaires need all that government money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    Bot Zombie, you have to protect and assist the job creators. Those milionaires need all that government money.

    Bot? Zombie is now a robot? You two are idiots.....non of us have ever said yes to handouts to anyone.......We have all supported tax money only go to constitutional mandates not dreamed up programs....and most of us suppport a flat tax to end all this BS....yet here you are again running your mouths as an absolute truth.....under the current tax code we are against raising anyones taxes but we want a flat or fair tax. Please try and put 2 and 2 together to get 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donzi5150 View Post
    Bot? Zombie is now a robot? You two are idiots.....non of us have ever said yes to handouts to anyone.......We have all supported tax money only go to constitutional mandates not dreamed up programs....and most of us suppport a flat tax to end all this BS....yet here you are again running your mouths as an absolute truth.....under the current tax code we are against raising anyones taxes but we want a flat or fair tax. Please try and put 2 and 2 together to get 4.
    Fuck off. No one's interested in what you have to say. Now go clean the costume you wore to the folsom fair; no doubt it is disgustingly dirty. You are dismissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    Fuck off. No one's interested in what you have to say. Now go clean the costume you wore to the folsom fair; no doubt it is disgustingly dirty. You are dismissed.

    That is not nice Ram.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ram78d10 View Post
    Fuck off. No one's interested in what you have to say. Now go clean the costume you wore to the folsom fair; no doubt it is disgustingly dirty. You are dismissed.
    I give you "Exhibit A"....

    Look for RTI to become increasingly agitated as the borders of his liberal utopian mindset close ever tighter around him in the upcoming year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    I give you "Exhibit A"....

    Look for RTI to become increasingly agitated as the borders of his liberal utopian mindset close ever tighter around him in the upcoming year.
    Oh..almost forgot...
    Really Tommy? How agitated will you be when there is four more years of "hope and change?" After all, "we" (not you or most of the other PRFers) are the people "we" have been waiting for. Are you prepared to deal with a backlash against the right in the upcoming election?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donzi5150 View Post
    non of us have ever said yes to handouts to anyone.......We have all supported tax money only go to constitutional mandates not dreamed up programs....and most of us suppport a flat tax to end all this BS
    I agree, most of you do support a flat tax, but I call BS on the rest. When I posted the issue about accelerated depreciation for corporate jets, depreciation that is clearly stimulus for and big business and a level of wealth that most of us on these boards will never know, you ALL were up in arms.

    Reform does not have to mean anti-capitalism anymore than it has to mean handouts for everyone. The tax code is cleary written to benefit those that have the means to influence legislators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodnJen View Post
    I agree, most of you do support a flat tax, but I call BS on the rest. When I posted the issue about accelerated depreciation for corporate jets, depreciation that is clearly stimulus for and big business and a level of wealth that most of us on these boards will never know, you ALL were up in arms.

    Reform does not have to mean anti-capitalism anymore than it has to mean handouts for everyone. The tax code is cleary written to benefit those that have the means to influence legislators.



    Absolute truth right there.

    However, It sure seems what is considered "Fair" taxation for everyone is nearly impossible to agree upon these days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodnJen View Post
    I agree, most of you do support a flat tax, but I call BS on the rest. When I posted the issue about accelerated depreciation for corporate jets, depreciation that is clearly stimulus for and big business and a level of wealth that most of us on these boards will never know, you ALL were up in arms.

    Reform does not have to mean anti-capitalism anymore than it has to mean handouts for everyone. The tax code is cleary written to benefit those that have the means to influence legislators.
    You are correct about the jets.

    But for me is was because it was not an "across the board" tax code "re-write", but merely another "tweak" in a broken system.

    I was one who debated you against it, and I take write offs now.
    BUT, I and most others like Me WOULD support the elimination of deductions given a flat tax.

    Level the field, as it were.
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    I will likely have many more deductions this year over previous years due to a change in residence. I too will take full advantage of the Code where I can.

    I guess where we will continue to disagree is the idea that a flat tax actually "levels" the playing field. The regressive nature of the tax will make it harder for the young folks starting out and the poor to build wealth.

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    Welfare is everywhere...

    Look at our debt. Spending stuff we don't have everywhere.

    Anything spent by the government is technically "welfare" for the people for the greater good.

    Of course the rich and powerful are going to get a piece.
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    Jon Bon Jovi, the millionaire rock star cited in the report, took federal dollars to raise honeybees on his property. Together billionaire moguls David Rockefeller and Ted Turner have also accepted more than half a million dollars in farm payments. Basketball legend Scottie Pippen took $210,520 in agriculture subsidies while making his fortune playing for the Chicago Bulls.
    How is this? The USDA cuts off subsidies if you make more than a million in income. I have to sign statements saying I do not. If you are single it has a 40K cap.

    The biggest money comes—or goes, rather—through unpaid taxes. More than 1,500 millionaires paid no income tax last year, according to federal records, mainly due to tax loopholes and savvy accountants. Tax breaks taken by millionaires on things like mortgage interest ($27.7 billion), rental expenses ($64.2 billion) and electric vehicles ($12.5 million) keep cash from entering the federal coffers.
    But no one likes the 999 plan. Nothing like a tax structure with thousands of pages. Who knows what's really in it but smart, highly paid CPAs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forkin' Crazy View Post
    But no one likes the 999 plan. Nothing like a tax structure with thousands of pages. Who knows what's really in it but smart, highly paid CPAs.
    Lots of unemployment for people who really add nothing USEFUL to society. Our systems has evolved to carry several million jobs that are pointless if the rules were not insane.

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