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    I heard this morning that SOME dimocraps are asking obama NOT to run because there is no way he can win with his now exposed, for all to see record in office. They are asking him to step aside and allow Hillary Clinton to take the Dims flag into the election...??? I will admit she would be better than obama, (as mentioned so many times here, an Irish Setter would be better than obama), but any repeal or alterations of obamacare are doubtful with Hillary at the reins...
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    PS I kinda predicted this when I said obama will not run after saying the Repubs screwed up all his plans and he is giving up on "hope and change"... This narcissistic asswipe would sooner die than be defeated in 2012, so there is a great chance he will take this as an "out"...
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    saw 2 guys on FOX this morning calling for that. (They were Dems from the WSJ or something?)

    Looks like Hillary is making noise to try to force the puppeteers to abandon the plan with O and put her in the gate, I think she is still upset about being forced to wait in '08.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    <font size="4"><strong>saw 2 guys on FOX</strong></font> this morning calling for that. (They were Dems from the <strong>WSJ (fox junior)</strong> or something?)<br>
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    Looks like Hillary is making noise to try to force the puppeteers to abandon the plan with O and put her in the gate, I think she is still upset about being forced to wait in '08.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy View Post
    saw 2 guys on FOX this morning calling for that. (They were Dems from the (fox junior) or something?)

    Looks like Hillary is making noise to try to force the puppeteers to abandon the plan with O and put her in the gate, I think she is still upset about being forced to wait in '08.

    Are you gut still taking fox news(sic) for real news? Dem's from the Wall Street Journal, indeed!


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    A poll by Farleigh Dickinson University in New Jersey showed that of all the news channels out there, Fox News viewers are the least informed.
    People were asked questions about news habits and current events in a statewide poll of 600 New Jersey residents recently. Results showed that viewers of Sunday morning news shows were the most informed about current events, while Fox News viewers were the least informed. In fact, FDU poll results showed they were even less informed than those who say they don’t watch any news at all.
    Readers of The New York Times, USA Today and listeners to National Public Radio were better informed about international events than other media outlets.
    In one major example, New Jersey poll participants were questioned about the outcome of the so-called Arab Spring uprisings in North Africa earlier in the year. A total of 53% of respondents know that Egyptians were successful in overthrowing dictator Hosni Mubarak. Also, 48% know that the Syrian uprising has thus far been unsuccessful in ousting Assad. But on balance, Fox News viewers were 18-points less likely to know that Egyptians overthrew their government than those who were not TV news viewers. Fox News viewers were also 6-points less likely to know that Syrians have not yet overthrown their government than those who watch no news, suggesting a daily dose of sound bytes from CNN at the gym, and headlines from Google News were enough to surpass what average Fox viewers polled knew about current events.
    Fox News is the leading cable news channel.

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    Hillery "The BIG LEG Woman" Clinton for pres. Scary shit there. Them Clinton's know their way around. Hussein is a Dumb AZZ. The shit she could pull off will stick verses Husain's b/s that should be removed by the courts. Bad juju anyway you look at it.
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    Another "vote for the one that scares you the least?"

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    I've heard that chatter too, but doubt it will happen. I think Obama actually thinks hes doing a good job above all else and all that is wrong with the U.S. preceded him (Bush and Congress). While some part of that may be true (particularly Congress's role), o's policies imo are mostly all going the wrong direction, most markedly his (and Congress's) propensity to continue and to escalate dramatically, overspending. I think Clinton would be tougher to beat just because her name isn't on most of it at this point but think she'd only be marginally different on the positive side to Obama as President. I think his marketing and smooth talkery were the only things that got him the nod in the 08 primary. I think Hillary may very well have beat McCain also because he was such a poor campaigner and his pick for VP turned into a polarizing liability for him when all was said and done.

    Newt in spite of the naysayers may be the one that can beat either of them. While he has baggage (at least in reputation), Hillary certainly isn't a clean sweet pea in the baggage dept, and Obama has created a lot of negative energy as his own baggage just based on his policies, not to mention his vague past and associations with known douchebags.

    If nothing else the year ahead will be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devenso View Post
    Are you gut still taking fox news(sic) for real news? Dem's from the Wall Street Journal, indeed!


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    A poll by Farleigh Dickinson University in New Jersey showed that of all the news channels out there, Fox News viewers are the least informed.
    People were asked questions about news habits and current events in a statewide poll of 600 New Jersey residents recently. Results showed that viewers of Sunday morning news shows were the most informed about current events, while Fox News viewers were the least informed. In fact, FDU poll results showed they were even less informed than those who say they don’t watch any news at all.
    Readers of The New York Times, USA Today and listeners to National Public Radio were better informed about international events than other media outlets.
    In one major example, New Jersey poll participants were questioned about the outcome of the so-called Arab Spring uprisings in North Africa earlier in the year. A total of 53% of respondents know that Egyptians were successful in overthrowing dictator Hosni Mubarak. Also, 48% know that the Syrian uprising has thus far been unsuccessful in ousting Assad. But on balance, Fox News viewers were 18-points less likely to know that Egyptians overthrew their government than those who were not TV news viewers. Fox News viewers were also 6-points less likely to know that Syrians have not yet overthrown their government than those who watch no news, suggesting a daily dose of sound bytes from CNN at the gym, and headlines from Google News were enough to surpass what average Fox viewers polled knew about current events.
    Fox News is the leading cable news channel.
    What the hell are you talking about, Douglas?

    I saw 2 guys on FOX that had a D after their name. They were supporting Hillary and calling for O to step aside....

    I missed the beginning but thought I heard they were from the WSJ, I am not sure, could be way off base, hence the ? mark.
    I was busy, and did not exactly catch who the dudes were.

    Go back to CNN and get your dose of kool aide.
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    How many states have now adapted the "Picture ID" requirement in order to vote? The dims are screaming bloody murder about it because they know it will eliminate a large portion of their illegal voting base that elected obama in 08.... I've heard all their dribble about how it will exclude the poor, and the elderly, but everyone had well over a year to obtain the necessary ID if they are entitled to it.... What ever happened to all the voter registration fraud cases against acorn? I guess Holder doesn't seem to think the charges are serious enough to prosecute....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moneypit View Post
    How many states have now adapted the "Picture ID" requirement in order to vote? Ray
    Just curious. How would a "Picture ID" effect the mail in vote.??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havasu1986 View Post
    Just curious. How would a "Picture ID" effect the mail in vote.??
    There was also some scuttlebutt about the "early" votes mailed in and how to seriously monitor them... We all know there is a certain amount of voter fraud, just how much we'll never know unless, and until, we remove everyone, and start totally over with voter registration with some real oversight as to who is actually eligible to vote....and who isn't...... With groups like acorn committing registration fraud on a huge scale we have zero way of ever knowing exactly how many fraudulent voters there are.. You know, I don't recall any such groups on the Republican side??? Maybe there have been, but I've never heard about them??.... I know I could easily be registered in Cal AND Az, I'd just have to vote early in one state, and late in the other, or maybe just mail one in, and vote in person in the other... See, the system IS broken and needs fixing with serious jail time associated with any type of fraud....
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    You guys are depressing the shit out of me, I think I'll go set myself on fire. Have a great Thanksgiving.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nice Pair View Post
    You guys are depressing the shit out of me, I think I'll go set myself on fire. Have a great Thanksgiving.
    hey! It's the holiday season!!!!
    Cheer up, it will be summer soon enough and we can all go blow up our boats 'N shit!!!
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    Here's how I see it:
    The Kenyan has all but slaughtered America while still expecting to get re-elected. Imagine the blood bath as a lame duck in his second term. He would turn the keys over to China, drive the last job off shore, and close down the government on his way out.
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