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    Life in Afghanistan sure is great now thanks to the Bush and Obama administration's efforts to bring them into the 21st century and give them a democracy. They have become so enlightened they will now free a rape victim if she marrys her attacker.

    How many billions and how many Americans have to die for this corrupt puppet Karsai and this cultural cesspool???

    All I can say is that in 2012 we American voters collectively will be the dumbest fuckers on the planet if we vote for any president who will keep this Mideast interventionist shit going on.

    Seems only Paul or Huntsman have said they will actually end this insanity ASAP !


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    I feel ya, bro.
    They were 500 yrs behind us. We've forced them to jump 200 yrs. ahead in the space of 10 yrs. Now they still have 300 yrs. of catching up to do.
    If I had a criticism of Bush, it would be that he didn't state that this would be a 40 yr. project. What do we have to show for it? Well they had an election, and 10 million people voted, out of 8 million elegible voters. That's progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBjet View Post
    I feel ya, bro.
    They were 500 yrs behind us. We've forced them to jump 200 yrs. ahead in the space of 10 yrs. Now they still have 300 yrs. of catching up to do.
    If I had a criticism of Bush, it would be that he didn't state that this would be a 40 yr. project. What do we have to show for it? Well they had an election, and 10 million people voted, out of 8 million eligible voters. That's progress.
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    And just what do you think would have happened to this woman before our intervention? If you've never been there and don't know then you probably shouldn't comment on it.

    But just for the record, prior to our presence in the area the woman would have been stoned to death. Her crime would have been enticing a male and the whole attack would have been her fault anyway. This woman is alive today because of Bush and his middle east policies, so what are you complaining about? Oh yeah, the soup is only warm and it isn't piping hot. It's still a far cry better than the no soup at all situation they were in before we were there. There was a woman inprissoned in Mehtarlam while we were there for marring a man without her family's blessing. She was given 5 yrs and still had 3 to serve when we were there. She was happy to be serving her time, because before our intervention she would have been executed for simply marrying who she loved as opposed to who she was told to marry. When her time is up, she will be with the man of her dreams and hopefully will be happy. (incidentally, he is free as a bird and can even find a second wife while she serves her time)

    What looks like no progress to you, might just be a lifetime of progress to the people experiencing it. Pull yourself up from sofa, turn off the TV, and go out and experience the world. Then, tell me about what is going on in it. Don't just eat up the crap they put on TV or the web and regurgitate it to me acting like you've discovered something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snoc653 View Post
    And just what do you think would have happened to this woman before our intervention? If you've never been there and don't know then you probably shouldn't comment on it.

    But just for the record, prior to our presence in the area the woman would have been stoned to death. Her crime would have been enticing a male and the whole attack would have been her fault anyway. This woman is alive today because of Bush and his middle east policies, so what are you complaining about? Oh yeah, the soup is only warm and it isn't piping hot. It's still a far cry better than the no soup at all situation they were in before we were there. There was a woman inprissoned in Mehtarlam while we were there for marring a man without her family's blessing. She was given 5 yrs and still had 3 to serve when we were there. She was happy to be serving her time, because before our intervention she would have been executed for simply marrying who she loved as opposed to who she was told to marry. When her time is up, she will be with the man of her dreams and hopefully will be happy. (incidentally, he is free as a bird and can even find a second wife while she serves her time)

    What looks like no progress to you, might just be a lifetime of progress to the people experiencing it. Pull yourself up from sofa, turn off the TV, and go out and experience the world. Then, tell me about what is going on in it. Don't just eat up the crap they put on TV or the web and regurgitate it to me acting like you've discovered something.
    Glen, dont even bother... I have been trying to get this point across for years now... I started studying womens sufferage under the Taliban around 2000... Someone like Z doesnt care OR care to know the reality...

    Interestingly Patricia Ireland and N.O.W. don't/won't touch this issue so someone like Z will never have a clue of what has been taking place over yonder...

    I appreciate your service Glen, I appreciate the sacrifice of our men/woman in harms way and I don't question the rational for the decisions made inside the pentagon...

    For Z to sit back and armchair this situation is.... is..... is.................... Well, im not telling U anthing that you dont already know...

    Thanks again sir, we appreciate U!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snoc653 View Post
    And just what do you think would have happened to this woman before our intervention? If you've never been there and don't know then you probably shouldn't comment on it.

    But just for the record, prior to our presence in the area the woman would have been stoned to death. Her crime would have been enticing a male and the whole attack would have been her fault anyway. This woman is alive today because of Bush and his middle east policies, so what are you complaining about? Oh yeah, the soup is only warm and it isn't piping hot. It's still a far cry better than the no soup at all situation they were in before we were there. There was a woman inprissoned in Mehtarlam while we were there for marring a man without her family's blessing. She was given 5 yrs and still had 3 to serve when we were there. She was happy to be serving her time, because before our intervention she would have been executed for simply marrying who she loved as opposed to who she was told to marry. When her time is up, she will be with the man of her dreams and hopefully will be happy. (incidentally, he is free as a bird and can even find a second wife while she serves her time)

    What looks like no progress to you, might just be a lifetime of progress to the people experiencing it. Pull yourself up from sofa, turn off the TV, and go out and experience the world. Then, tell me about what is going on in it. Don't just eat up the crap they put on TV or the web and regurgitate it to me acting like you've discovered something.

    Spoken like a guy trying to convince yourself that being sent there is worthwhile... Yeah, and Viet Nam was worth while too....Keep on trying to convince yourself if it make you feel better..

    Because you sure won't convince me or most other Americans .

    Here something to think about.... The world is full of shit cultures. Most are many hundreds of years older than ours and will probably be around like cockroaches long after our culture is gone. BTW, Many of these cultures think our culture is a shit culture. Now we wouldn't want them coming here bombing us and telling us how to live would we? Their Shria law sound good to you? Our costs in ten years of thousands of dead and wounded Americans and billions of our money in Afghanistan is a total waste. I think women and children are abused there but not worth the costs for us to try to fix it. But we both know what our real long term reasons for interviening in the Mideast is and it is not the welfare of women and children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snoc653 View Post
    Don't just eat up the crap they put on TV or the web and regurgitate it ...
    Hell yeah!
    Z needs a reminder like that about once a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    Spoken like a guy trying to convince yourself that being sent there is worthwhile... Yeah, and Viet Nam was worth while too....Keep on trying to convince yourself if it make you feel better..

    Because you sure won't convince me or most other Americans .

    Here something to think about.... The world is full of shit cultures. Most are many hundreds of years older than ours and will probably be around like cockroaches long after our culture is gone. BTW, Many of these cultures think our culture is a shit culture. Now we wouldn't want them coming here bombing us and telling us how to live would we? Their Shria law sound good to you? Our costs in ten years of thousands of dead and wounded Americans and billions of our money in Afghanistan is a total waste. I think women and children are abused there but not worth the costs for us to try to fix it. But we both know what our real long term reasons for interviening in the Mideast is and it is not the welfare of women and children.
    How many of those SHIT HOLES are located SMACK in the middle of the most strategically significant location in Asia??? THINK PAKISTAN/NUKES and their proven propensity to sell that info to anyone that has some cash, proximity to Iran, Proximity to CHina, all of the STANS, the worlds biggest gold and precious metals deposits, natural gas fields that are un-tapped, lithium deposits that are equal to none, opium production CENTRAL, Taliban HQ, OH and there is that little issue of Bin Laden and his training camps and 9-11...

    SriLanka is a SHIT HOLE too but the Tamil Tigers can't access the nukes of Paki very easily... Same for the bad boys in Bali or Somalia..

    Zombie, don't you do ANY study of world affairs???
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manymustangs View Post
    How many of those SHIT HOLES are located SMACK in the middle of the most strategically significant location in Asia??? THINK PAKISTAN/NUKES and their proven propensity to sell that info to anyone that has some cash, proximity to Iran, Proximity to CHina, all of the STANS, the worlds biggest gold and precious metals deposits, natural gas fields that are un-tapped, lithium deposits that are equal to none, opium production CENTRAL, Taliban HQ, OH and there is that little issue of Bin Laden and his training camps and 9-11...

    SriLanka is a SHIT HOLE too but the Tamil Tigers can't access the nukes of Paki very easily... Same for the bad boys in Bali or Somalia..

    Zombie, don't you do ANY study of world affairs???


    Other than quickly attacking Bin Laden and his al Queda, we have no need to be there for ten years. Do you really think the world is safer ??? Our presence over there poking hornets nests is a deadly bankrupting farce ! We can freely buy those resources you covet on the open market when developed like any other customers. Pakistan's nukes? To late nothing can be done now. Eventually the Arab / Persian /Muslim world will be able to build nukes if they want to. Our belligerence in the area makes then want to! Don't you see that??? Uncle Sam is a major trouble maker in the Mideast as much as any other nation there is. Only difference is Uncle Sam has no business being there and doing what he is doing. Iraq and Iran had stalemated each other, Israel and their Arab neighbors just mad dog each other daily and have small exchanges of hostilities. So what! Not our concern.Leave them alone . They will hash it out. The only entities benefiting from our huge intervention are the thousands of contractors making a killing off us taxpayers. American families are sick and tired of seeing generations ended. No future grand kids because their son and daughters died fighting corporate greed fueled war. Claiming fighting in the Mideast is patriotic for America is like saying robbing banks is good for capitalism...

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    You know the beauty in post like snoc's VS zombie. that POS will be looking to snoc for protection when the shit hits the fan, and guys like snoc will remember exactly why they CHOSE TO serve, and what they saw, and what they will never allow this country to become. I figure there about 8 maybe 10 million like minded men and women in this country today. Its the one little oopsie in the systems plan. Well trained AMERICANS!!!!!!! who are willing to give their life to protect it. Something tells me there is nothing zombie is willing to die for while taking it from somebody who is! zombie, if "your system" fails, your screwed!



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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    You know the beauty in post like snoc's VS zombie. that POS will be looking to snoc for protection when the shit hits the fan, and guys like snoc will remember exactly why they CHOSE TO serve, and what they saw, and what they will never allow this country to become. I figure there about 8 maybe 10 million like minded men and women in this country today. Its the one little oopsie in the systems plan. Well trained AMERICANS!!!!!!! who are willing to give their life to protect it. Something tells me there is nothing zombie is willing to die for while taking it from somebody who is! zombie, if "your system" fails, your screwed!
    Wrong as usual! I look to nobody for protection. Also I served and I saw in Viet Nam which is why I know what bullshit unneccessary wars are all about. And I am very willing to make people die who are harming me, my family, my neighbors,and my country America. Like Viet Nam, the nations in the Mideast are doing none of these things. Sorry I don't buy the rah-rah patriotic bullshit so many fools are so eager to swallow.

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    those weren't Mexicans that crashed airplanes into the Pentegon and the WTC moron! They came from somewhere. And they are still looking to do it again dipshit! Should we just wait around? Maybe we could put you and your entire family in the top floor of the next building and you'll get the picture better



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    Watched the new Bomb Patrol Afghanistan today, anyone else watch it? Did you notice how nice their highways and bridges are? Wish our country had the money and resources to fix my street, let alone the 120 miles of potholes and cracks they call the 710, 91 and 15 freeways everyday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gn7 View Post
    those weren't Mexicans that crashed airplanes into the Pentegon and the WTC moron! They came from somewhere. And they are still looking to do it again dipshit! Should we just wait around? Maybe we could put you and your entire family in the top floor of the next building and you'll get the picture better

    They were all Saudis. Why didn't we bomb and invade Saudia Arabia ?????

    Edit: Oops forgot the gn7 required name calling: You are an ignorant name calling dipshit so give up as you will never win in a discussion with me.
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