[MR.Magoo]

a buddy of mine on here has talked me into adding a single turbo to my current 461 bbc, does anyone on here have any single turbo set up pics?, what is the chance of me finding a set of bbc turbo headers used?. this is gonna be a budget build , probably have to piece it together, coast guard doesn't pay that great. i'm gonna look on here for pics any and all help will be appreciated. btw the boat i am putting it in is a 1971 sanger shovelnose drag hydro, light lay up,thanks guys

 

[BLWN BUX]

There is a guy selling a complete twin turbo set for $1800

You ar going to spend alot more than that building your own (pieced together set-up)

If that's not in your budget then your buddy shouldn't have talked you into it.

You would be better off looking at Nitrous

 

[MR.Magoo]

thanks for the info

 

[sanger rat]

I have a pair of Holsets that would be perfect for that motor.

 

[Unchained]

You would be better off looking at Nitrous

Somehow I knew that a CA guy was going to default back to the same nitrous setup that they all have used for decades.

Let me introduce you to some new words,

INDIVIDUALITY
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/individuality

UNIQUE
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unique

INGENUITY
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ingenuity

 

[IMPATIENT 1]

i agree with mark and i'm the "buddy" in question heredevil don't listen to the naysayers randall, those that know the power of the big turbo mota will never go back to the darkside of nitrous again


mark, randall's goin for pumpgas power to get that hydro moving goodgrn i suggested to him those cheap headers i posted about, building a crossover pipe into 1 t6 collector , then us finding him a turbo the right size to get the job done. i keep see'n 1.54 ar ex /80mm inducer detroit/bw turbs everywhere cheap that should fit the bill for 15lbs boost maxbulb less than 500 for the turbo so less than a grand and he can have his hotside built and turbo boughtbulb

 

[BLWN BUX]

I didn't mean to pose any negativity twards the application that could go turbo..

Believe me, I LIKEEEE boost!
Both My Truck, and my Sand Rail are turbo. Also My Corvette and my Boat are supercharged.

Basicly everything I drive is under boost

It is quite important to have a 'full system" in place with: good understanding and controll of fuel requirements, ignition timing, Intake air tempreture relationships to power and detonation control. Boost creats tempermental tuning conditions that will instantly melt a motor is the they are no correct.

There is a "complete twin turbo" system in the For Sale section of this forum. It was listed for $1800.

If you add up the costs of componet fuel/oil lines, brackets, carberator, manifolds, intercooler, both turbos, fittings ect...
Its gona add up

IMO the $1800 package is a good deal relative to the needed componet list of adding a turbo set-up. If that is too expensive for the budget then I would not seggest turbo.

 

[IMPATIENT 1]

ya just gotta have that cheapass gene in ya i know how to do the math on these systems and i can do alot better system for 1800 bucks than just that piece o shit system in spam section i did a twin turbo, twin intercooled 496bbc last winter, almost done with my single turbo, single intercooler blow thru 5.3liter , and when randall's ready to start on his set-up, i'll help him by pointing him in the right direction and doin that math for him his motor will be in a boat my uncle owned/painted/built after all

 

[LandSpeedRacer]

Somehow I knew that a CA guy was going to default back to the same nitrous setup that they all have used for decades.

Let me introduce you to some new words,

INDIVIDUALITY
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/individuality

UNIQUE
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unique

INGENUITY
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ingenuity

devil

 

[Unchained]

I didn't mean to pose any negativity twards the application that could go turbo..

Believe me, I LIKEEEE boost!
Both My Truck, and my Sand Rail are turbo. Also My Corvette and my Boat are supercharged.

Basicly everything I drive is under boost

.

I apologize for my generalities. sphss

You were correct in that the component system is going to be a lot more expensive but would have vastly more capability than an old Gale Banks system. There would be no comparison.

A single turbo could do a big block but the additional piping and heat expansion would be a huge negative for me.

I can do alot better system for 1800 bucks than just that piece o shit system in spam section

Now don't go sugar coating it all up Tom, just say it like it is....

 

[IMPATIENT 1]

I apologize for my generalities. sphss

You were correct in that the component system is going to be a lot more expensive but would have vastly more capability than an old Gale Banks system. There would be no comparison.

A single turbo could do a big block but the additional piping and heat expansion would be a huge negative for me.



Now don't go sugar coating it all up Tom, just say it like it is....

i see how you felt yrs ago on hotboat now mark its just unexplainable how easy it is to make ungodly amounts of hp with the right size systemgrn

let's break that 1800 bucks down into what lil of a banks system there is in that spam ad for 1800:

best that banks system is gonna do before choking all to hell is maybe 800 pushing the hell outta them lil turbs


ok, give me that 1800 and i can buy a pair of 75mm bw's, some cheap ass 500 buck upswept bbc edelbrock ss headers to get me started for a couple yrs, we're at what 1600 spent now? we'll need wastegatesbulb ok, nutha 160 bucks, and let's not forget about a blow off valve for another 45 bucks. 2000hp capable , on 1805.00 spent right der sonnnnnndevil

 

[IMPATIENT 1]

i was thinkin big single on randall's because he don't want alot of hp he's just looking to push his current motor alil harder without opening up the longblock at all. those big bw detroit turbos with the 1.58 ar i saw today would spool up nice for him and they're all over the place on ebay for 500 or best offer for new unitsbulb of course we'd use a expansion joint in the y-piping to the turb, i'm doin the same on my lil build, bought a 6in nice ss expansion joint

 

[Beer:30]

I have always been a fan of turbocharging. It just makes sense all the way around - except maybe for the negative of underhood (automotive) heat increase. Although, the new STS systems that are under the cars do away with that part, but I am sure it causes a tad bit more lag.

However, that being the negative part - all the rest is positive. Zero HP to drive it, since it uses waste to make power.

WEIGHT: No more added weight than a supercharger system, but I guess nitrous would have the advantage of just the bottle and a little plumbing for weight. Not much there.

EASIER ON PARTS: Supercharged HP comes in FAIRLY soft, depending on type of blower and how much drive it has or doesn't have. Nitrous just plain hits immediately, although you could run multiple stages and bring it in softer. Lots more $ for solenoids, lines, injectors, pills, etc, etc. Turbocharged HP comes in only as the engine generates it! So, there is no "surprise" for the engine. HP builds as RPM builds. No "shocking" of parts that so often causes breakage.