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Who watches the watchers?

For the past few years www.snopescom <http://www.snopescom/> has positioned
itself, or others have labeled it, as the 'tell-all final word' on any
comment, claim and email. But for several years people tried to find out
who exactly was behind snopes.com.


Only recently did Wikipedia get to the bottom of it - kinda makes you wonder
what they were hiding. Well, finally we know. It is run by a husband and
wife team - that's right, no big office of investigators and researchers, no
team of lawyers. It's just a mom-and-pop operation that began as a hobby.
David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California
started the website about 13 years ago - and they have no formal background
or experience in investigative research. After a few years it gained
popularity believing it to be unbiased and neutral, but over the past couple
of years people started asking questions who was behind it and did they have
a selfish motivation?


The reason for the questions - or skepticisms - is a result of snopes.com
claiming to have the bottom line facts to certain questions or issue when in
fact they have been proven wrong. Also, there were criticisms the
Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the 'true' bottom of
various issues.


A few months ago, when State Farm agent Bud Gregg in Mandeville hoisted a
political sign referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the
internet, 'supposedly' the Mikkelson's claim to have researched this issue
before posting their findings on snopes.com. In their statement they
claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Gregg into taking down
the sign, when in fact nothing of the sort 'ever' took place. I personally
contacted David Mikkelson (and he replied back to me) thinking he would want
to get to the bottom of this and I gave him Bud Gregg's contact phone
numbers - and Bud was going to give him phone numbers to the big exec's at
State Farm in Illinois who would have been willing to speak with him about
it. He never called Bud. In fact, I learned from Bud Gregg no one from
snopes.com ever contacted anyone with State Farm. Yet, snopes.com issued a
statement as the 'final factual word' on the issue as if they did all their
homework and got to the bottom of things - not!


Then it has been learned the Mikkelson's are very Democratic (party) and
extremely liberal. As we all now know from this presidential election,
liberals have a purpose agenda to discredit anything that appears to be
conservative.. There has been much criticism lately over the internet with
people pointing out the Mikkelson's liberalism revealing itself in their
website findings. Gee, what a shock?


So, I say this now to everyone who goes to snopes.com to get what they think
to be the bottom line facts...'proceed with caution.' Take what it says at
face value and nothing more. Use it only to lead you to their references
where you can link to and read the sources for yourself. Plus, you can
always Google a subject and do the research yourself. It now seems apparent
that's all the Mikkelson's do. After all, I can personally vouch from my
own experience for their 'not' fully looking into things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes.com


I have found this to be true also! Many videos of Obama I tried to verify
on Snopes and they said they were False...... Then they gave their Liberal
slant....!!! I have suspected some problems with snopes for some time now,
but I have only caught them in half-truths. If there is any subjectivity
they do an immediate full left rudder.

Truth or www.truthorfiction.com <http://www.truthorfiction.com/> a better
source for verification, in my opinion.


I have recently discovered that Snopes.com is owned by a flaming liberal and
this man is in the tank for Obama. There are many things they have listed on
their site as a hoax and yet you can go to Youtube yourself and find the
video of Obama actually saying these things. So you see, you cannot and
should not trust Snopes.com....ever for anything that remotely resembles
truth! I don't even trust them to tell me if email chains are hoaxes
anymore.


A few conservative speakers on Myspace told me about Snopes.com
http://snopes.com// <http://snopes.com/> a few months ago and I took it
upon myself to do a little research to find out if it was true. Well, I
found out for myself that it is true. Anyway just FYI please don't use
Snopes.com anymore for fact checking and make your friends aware of their
political leanings as well. Many people still think Snopes.com is neutral
and they can be trusted as factual. We need to make sure everyone is aware
that that is a hoax in itself.





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When a damning article brings political affiliation or ideology into the script, it becomes very hard to believe that the person who wrote the article (press release) didn't have an alterior motive behind it.
 
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http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/

Interesting link on this page

Chain e-mail: "Snopes" Exposed

Posted on February 26, 2009 at 2:29am

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For the past few years snopes.com <http://snopes.com/> has positioned itself, or others have labeled it, as the ‘tell-all final word’ on any comment,
claim and email.

But for several years people tried to find out who exactly was behind snopes.com <http://snopes.com/> .

Only recently did Wikipedia get to the bottom of it - kinda makes you wonder what they were hiding. Well, finally we know.

It is run by a husband and wife team - that’s right, no big office of investigators and researchers, no team of lawyers. It’s just a mom-and-pop operation that began as a hobby.

David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California started the website about 13 years ago - and they have no formal background or experience in investigative research. After a few years it gained popularity believing it to be unbiased and neutral, but over the past couple of years people started asking questions who was behind it and did they have a selfish motivation? The reason for the questions – or skepticisms - is a result of snopes. com claiming to have the bottom line facts to certain questions or issue when in fact they have been proven wrong. Also, there were criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the ‘true’ bottom of various issues.

A few months ago, when my State Farm agent Bud Gregg in Mandeville hoisted a political sign referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the internet, ’supposedly’ the Mikkelson’s claim to have researched this issue before posting their findings on snopes.com <http://snopes.com/> . In their statement they claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Gregg into taking down the sign, when in fact nothing of the sort ‘ever’ took place.

I personally contacted David Mikkelson (and he replied back to me) thinking he would want to get to the bottom of this and I gave him Bud Gregg’s contact phone numbers - and Bud was going to give him phone numbers to the big exec’s at State Farm in Illinois who would have been willing to speak with him about it. He never called Bud. In fact, I learned from Bud Gregg no one from snopes.com <http://snopes.com/> ever contacted anyone with State Farm Yet,snopes.com <http://snopes.com/> issued a statement as the ‘final factual word’ on the issue as if they did all their homework and got to the bottom of things - not!

Then it has been learned the Mikkelson’s are very Democratic (party) and extremely liberal. As we all now know from this presidential election, liberals have a purpose agenda to discredit anything that appears to be conservative. There has been much criticism lately over the internet with people pointing out the Mikkelson’s liberalism revealing itself in their website findings.

Gee, what a shock?

So, I say this now to everyone who goes to www.snopes.com <http://www.snopes.com/> to get what they think to be the bottom line facts…’proceed with caution.’ Take what it says at face value and nothing more. Use it only to lead you to their references where you can link to and read the sources for yourself. Plus, you can always google a subject and do the research yourself. It now seems apparent that’s all the Mikkelson’s do.
 

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We checked online to see if he had given money to any federal candidates, and nothing turned up. Mikkelson even faxed us a copy of his voter registration form. He asked us not to post an image of it here, but we can confirm that it shows he declined to state a party affiliation when he registered last year, and also that when he registered in 2000 he did so as a REPUBLICAN[italics mine]. factcheck.org


Well well well, Mikkelson is a REPUBLICAN. Kinda puts the quietus on your little theory doesn't it Mr. Dealer? :D
 

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We checked online to see if he had given money to any federal candidates, and nothing turned up. Mikkelson even faxed us a copy of his voter registration form. He asked us not to post an image of it here, but we can confirm that it shows he declined to state a party affiliation when he registered last year, and also that when he registered in 2000 he did so as a REPUBLICAN[italics mine]. factcheck.org


Well well well, Mikkelson is a REPUBLICAN. Kinda puts the quietus on your little theory doesn't it Mr. Dealer? :D
Of course. Nothing wrong with Snopes. How do you feel about "faux" news, as you call them. :)st

And nothing like pretending to be who you are not to try and prove a point.
 

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We checked online to see if he had given money to any federal candidates, and nothing turned up. Mikkelson even faxed us a copy of his voter registration form. He asked us not to post an image of it here, but we can confirm that it shows he declined to state a party affiliation when he registered last year, and also that when he registered in 2000 he did so as a REPUBLICAN[italics mine]. factcheck.org


Well well well, Mikkelson is a REPUBLICAN. Kinda puts the quietus on your little theory doesn't it Mr. Dealer? :D
Assuming your post is accurate, not everyone stays with the same party affiliation throughout their life. If the voter is actually educating themselves on various candidates it could change yearly depending on if they wish to vote in a particular primary for a particular candidate.
 

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Assuming your post is accurate, not everyone stays with the same party affiliation throughout their life. If the voter is actually educating themselves on various candidates it could change yearly depending on if they wish to vote in a particular primary for a particular candidate.
Tell that to Donzi5150...:|err :)hand
 

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Assuming your post is accurate, not everyone stays with the same party affiliation throughout their life. If the voter is actually educating themselves on various candidates it could change yearly depending on if they wish to vote in a particular primary for a particular candidate.
Not everyone true, but I've never voted for a Republican in my life...
 

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Not everyone true, but I've never voted for a Republican in my life...
Thats ok, I've never voted for a Dimocrat in my life...I guess my vote cancelled your vote.hil:)
 

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Charlie, the post that started this thread came from a chain email from many months ago. While I know that factcheck is Liberal, their sources in this case seem acurate.
Oh my gosh! A liberal being truthful or acurate? Must be a first! :)bulb
 

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Tell that to Donzi5150...:|err :)hand

Thanks for the segway 1986.....

Principled people in conservative values rooted in the constitution and the principals of the founding fathers do not change their identity....only people who have no principled education in such issues....should I like the I voted for Obama website here again?:)sphss
 
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