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The House of Reps voted overwhelmingly for the bill to defund Acorn-

Republicans succeeded in drawing overwhelming support from Democrats Thursday to eliminate federal funding to a now-scandalized ACORN, the community organizing group that has come under heavy fire in the wake of damaging undercover videos that purport to show counselors giving advice on tax fraud to a "pimp" and "prostitute."
The House voted 345-75 to strike ACORN funding from a student aid bill with two voting present.
Later, the Senate voted 85-11 to eliminate ACORN funding from an Interior Department spending bill.
In the House, the Defund ACORN Act prohibits any "federal contract grant, cooperative agreement or any other form of agreement (including a memorandum of understanding" from being awarded to or entered into with the group. It also prohibits federal funds "in any other form" from being provided.
In the Senate, the Protect Taxpayers from ACORN Act blocks the group from receiving taxpayer dollars.
Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee, suggested the House vote is essentially symbolic because the student aid bill did not actually provide any funding to ACORN.
However, the language refers to all federal contracts so it applies to any federal money.
Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., who introduced the "motion to recommit" attached to the Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2009, said the decision followed a similar Senate vote on Monday and the Census Bureau's decision last week to cut ties to the group.
"The battle, however, to deny ACORN federal funding is not over until the president signs the bill into law. ACORN gave significant support to Democrats and Americans must remain vigilant to avoid backtracking or efforts to water down prohibitions denying Federal funds to this corrupt organization," said
House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., applauded the vote.
"ACORN has violated serious federal laws, and today, the House voted to ensure that taxpayer dollars would no longer be used to fund this corrupt organization," he said in a written statement. "All federal ties should be severed with ACORN, and the FBI should investigate its activity.
"This united Republican effort to defund ACORN is a victory for the rule of law and taxpayers across the country."
But Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y. called the ACORN measure, which he voted against "flatly unconstitutional" and said it "threatens any organization disliked by Congress."
"Congress must not be in the business of punishing individual organizations or people without trial, and that's what this Amendment does," he said in a written statement. "Whatever one may think of the organization, the Constitution's clear ban on Bills of Attainder is there for the protection of all of our liberties."
Democrats offered overwhelming support to the ACORN measure because they didn't want to derail the student aid bill, senior House sources told FOX News. And the measure still has to be approved by the Senate -- a process that will be complicated by the differences in its bill that blocked federal funds to ACORN.
Miller said he allowed the ACORN measure to hit the floor despite its irrelevance to the student aid bill because he was "comfortable with giving members a vote on that issue and advance the legislation."
He also said that whether or not ACORN would be defunded was "somewhat above my paygrade."
Whether symbolic or not, the vote gives Republicans more momentum as they continue to keep the pressure on ACORN, which is on its heels. It also gave Republicans a move to force Democrats, who control the House, to vote on an issue that may leave some of them vulnerable in next year's mid-term elections.
Republicans now have the firepower to run ads highlighting this vote, saying: "This lawmaker voted against defunding ACORN." The 75 lawmakers who voted "no" and two who voted "present" were all Democrats.
Click here to see how your representative voted.
But at least one Democrat who did vote to strip funding, Rep. Zack Space of Ohio, said he was "outraged" by a series of videos taken by two undercover filmmakers dressed up as a pimp and a prostitute in order to get advice at local ACORN establishments on how to set up a brothel in a way that allowed them to pay taxes and get federal grants for housing.
"I am outraged at the actions of ACORN's employees and believe they should be penalized to the full extent of the law," said Space. "Our government must be vigilant in ensuring that organizations that are found to act fraudulently do not receive taxpayer dollars."

What Nancy Pelosi said about it you ask? Here's her response-
WASHINGTON -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said yesterday she is clueless about an amendment to prohibit government funds for embattled ACORN, although it overwhelmingly passed the Senate Monday and the White House is calling for the group to be held accountable.
"I don't even know what they passed," Pelosi told The Post yesterday. "What did they do? They defunded it?"



The first sentence says it all, Nancy Pelosi said yesterday she is clueless, I think most of us already knew that.

Now the $8.5 Billion dollar question is, will the empty suit in chief sign it?
 

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Pelosi takes the Left's first line of defense, sheer ignorance......

I'd like to see a bill that disllows funding to any similar group as we all know ACORN isn't going to go away, just going to restructure under new names.

It would also be interesting to see how HusseinO reacts if formally confronted with his close involvement to ACORN ......But we know that question won't be asked.:|err
 

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I would love to see the list of the 75 idiots that voted no to defund.:|err

"All 75 no votes were Democrats. "
 

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And those bastards should be voted out.


I would love to see the list of the 75 idiots that voted no to defund.:|err

"All 75 no votes were Democrats. "
 

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it shows the nays, or at least the link i'm looking at does
 

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---- NOES 75 ---

Baldwin
Becerra
Brady (PA)
Brown, Corrine
Butterfield
Capuano
Carson (IN)
Castor (FL)
Cleaver
Clyburn
Crowley
Cummings
Davis (IL)
DeGette
Delahunt
Doyle
Edwards (MD)
Ellison
Engel
Fattah
Filner
Fudge
Green, Al
Grijalva
Hinchey
Hirono
Holt
Honda
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Johnson, E. B.
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kucinich
Larsen (WA)
Lee (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Lynch
Markey (MA)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
Meeks (NY)
Mollohan
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Nadler (NY)
Neal (MA)
Olver
Pallone
Pascrell
Payne
Polis (CO)
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sánchez, Linda T.
Schakowsky
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sherman
Sires
Slaughter
Stark
Thompson (MS)
Towns
Tsongas
Velázquez
Waters
Watson
Waxman
Wexler
Woolsey
 

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I would love to see the list of the 75 idiots that voted no to defund.:|err

"All 75 no votes were Democrats. "
I'd imagine the usual culprits starting with Sheila Jackson Lee and the other Black Caucus members who think Fidel Castro is a cool old dude......ACORN represents the votes that keep these people in office. This would take up the majority of the 75 votes.

Since "Racism" currently seems to be the label of blame for anything said against O or his allies, it's fitting that ACORN is proof positive of what real "Racism" is about. If anyone ever takes time to completely dissect this fraudulent organization they will find the graft, fraud, and deceit that in essense played a major role in the crash of the RE financing fiasco.
 

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I'd imagine the usual culprits starting with Sheila Jackson Lee and the other Black Caucus members who think Fidel Castro is a cool old dude......ACORN represents the votes that keep these people in office. This would take up the majority of the 75 votes.

Since "Racism" currently seems to be the label of blame for anything said against O or his allies, it's fitting that ACORN is proof positive of what real "Racism" is about. If anyone ever takes time to completely dissect this fraudulent organization they will find the graft, fraud, and deceit that in essense played a major role in the crash of the RE financing fiasco.
yep, you knew that was a nay vote:|err only 1 from texas i'd be willing to bet;) tides are a turnin fellas:)devil
 

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Ah but there is a problem..... We have TOTAL AND UTTER IDIOTS IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE!!! :mad:

The House put an amendment in one bill and the Senate in a DIFFERENT bill.... So now they have to make some sort of "Defund Acorn Act"... :mad:

WTF!!! No wonder they get little to nothing done! We need to replace damn near the whole lot!!!! :|err

Here are a few of my favorite quotes from the article:

A non-partisan grassroots community organization of low- and moderate-income people, ACORN -- the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now -- has received an estimated $53 million in federal aid since 1994.

The group has come under fire in recent weeks after videos surfaced showing some workers in several cities giving tax advice to an undercover filmmaker who, purporting to be a pimp, says he wanted to run a brothel.
Fine out-standing organization. But there is this also! Who would have thought? Voter fraud? :)sphss

Separately, 11 ACORN workers were arrested in Miami on Sept. 9 on charges of voter registration fraud -- including registering the name of late actor Paul Newman. In March 2008, an ACORN worker in Pennsylvania was sentenced for making 29 phony voter registration forms. And in 2007, Washington State filed felony charges against several ACORN employees and supervisors for more than 1,700 fraudulent voter registrations.
Now spread that around the country, especially in critical areas. I have said that they stole the election all along. We don’t have any Republicans with the courage to confront the Democrats on this. 54% my ASS! :)st

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/19/house-minority-leader-calls-special-vote-defund-acorn/
 

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They'll either find some backdoor way to get money to ACORN or it will be disbanded and a new organization will with a new name will rise up. These people ain't going away without a fight.

As far as voting people out of office, I'm thinking 2 year term limits for everyone. That way, not as much damage can be done and people will have be more engaged more often come election time--hopefully. Just a thought.
 

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They'll either find some backdoor way to get money to ACORN or it will be disbanded and a new organization will with a new name will rise up. These people ain't going away without a fight.

As far as voting people out of office, I'm thinking 2 year term limits for everyone. That way, not as much damage can be done and people will have be more engaged more often come election time--hopefully. Just a thought.
X2:)
 

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Pelosi takes the Left's first line of defense, sheer ignorance......

I'd like to see a bill that disllows funding to any similar group as we all know ACORN isn't going to go away, just going to restructure under new names.

It would also be interesting to see how HusseinO reacts if formally confronted with his close involvement to ACORN ......But we know that question won't be asked.:|err
WASHINGTON -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said yesterday she is clueless about an amendment to prohibit government funds for embattled ACORN, although it overwhelmingly passed the Senate Monday and the White House is calling for the group to be held accountable.
"I don't even know what they passed," Pelosi told The Post yesterday. "What did they do? They defunded it?"
The person who runs the House of Representatives, the person who controlls what is voted on, and when, by the House of Representatives, does not know what the House of Representatives voted on............... :)sphss

10'x20' BULLSH!+ FLAG, lighted by halogens and fireworks, and I am certain I'm not the only one raising it to the top of a 1,000 foot pole. :)hand
 

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Filner

Bob Filner one of the worst in San Diego, this guy has to be getting Acorn votes

caught in scandal no show acorn voting

1.Democrat Congressman Bob Filner Implicated in HUD Housing Scandal

2. My grandson and i race soapbox derby cars went to a race in May09
program had the mayors office rep to show up to race Filner big
write up in program & news paper never showed found out this was
the 2nd time no show

3 voted against Acorn one of the 75

ill be busy monday on the phone to his office for sure and not for
a Obama pre speech

my o2
 

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---- NOES 75 ---

Baldwin
Becerra
Brady (PA)
Brown, Corrine
Butterfield
Capuano
Carson (IN)
Castor (FL)
Cleaver
Clyburn
Crowley
Cummings
Davis (IL)
DeGette
Delahunt
Doyle
Edwards (MD)
Ellison
Engel
Fattah
Filner
Fudge
Green, Al
Grijalva
Hinchey
Hirono
Holt
Honda
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Johnson, E. B.
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kucinich
Larsen (WA)
Lee (CA)
Lewis (GA)
Lynch
Markey (MA)
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
Meeks (NY)
Mollohan
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Nadler (NY)
Neal (MA)
Olver
Pallone
Pascrell
Payne
Polis (CO)
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sánchez, Linda T.
Schakowsky
Scott (GA)
Scott (VA)
Serrano
Sherman
Sires
Slaughter
Stark
Thompson (MS)
Towns
Tsongas
Velázquez
Waters
Watson
Waxman
Wexler
Woolsey
These names are great, but how do we get their e-mails....???
 

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10'x20' BULLSH!+ FLAG, lighted by halogens and fireworks, and I am certain I'm not the only one raising it to the top of a 1,000 foot pole. :)hand

Here ya go Smokin. Is it about the right size?:D
 

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Very nice Gravyboat, perfect. :)

Ya know, it's too bad the local Obaminions are in hiding as of late..........................
Separately, 11 ACORN workers were arrested in Miami on Sept. 9 on charges of voter registration fraud -- including registering the name of late actor Paul Newman. In March 2008, an ACORN worker in Pennsylvania was sentenced for making 29 phony voter registration forms. And in 2007, Washington State filed felony charges against several ACORN employees and supervisors for more than 1,700 fraudulent voter registrations.
They've always told me about the voter/election/registration fraud that those terrible ReTHUGlicans (you know, the same ones who keep electing former Grand Dragon Robert Byrd (D-W Va) to his S Carolina Senate seat) keep committing, every election, at least every one since (and including) 2000.
If any of them were here, I'd ask where all the ReTHUGlican election fraud is they proclaim so often..........................................

Before one trolls by and gets stupid with accusations, I'll state my disgust at election fraud on ANY side, Rep, Dem, Independant, Communist, etc., just, to make myself clear. :)

To help them out, I feel a vary vague recollection of ONE somewhere about 10 years ago, at the same time there was close to 30 Democrats getting arrested for boxes of ballots in trunks of cars............................ :)
 

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These names are great, but how do we get their e-mails....???
They each have congressional e-mails, easilly found, and they also each have home district offices, every bit as easilly internet searched using their full name.

My quick search for "congressional e-mail locator" sends you Here, enjoy. :)
 

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Things that make you go hmmm.... BofA kickback money to Acorn.
Our review of annual tax returns for the Bank of America Charitable Foundation, Inc. for the last three years (2006, 2007, 2008) found more than $3.6 million in grants to ACORN and its affiliates. Those grants include a grant of $2 million to ACORN Housing, Inc. last year, and direct grants to ACORN Housing, Inc. offices in Baltimore, Maryland and San Bernardino, California, the locations of undercover video stings.

On its website, ACORN Housing, Inc. describes its relationship with Bank of America as a “partnership.” The Bank of America website lists no less than 26 ACORN offices where:

Bank of America works with Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) Housing to provide special mortgage products to potential homeowners in NAME


http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZjRjYzE0YmQxNzU4MDJjYWE5MjIzMTMxMmNhZWQ1MTA
Good older article on Obama and Acorn etc...



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