[cobalt23]

I was watching a show on ABC tonight and they said that all gas is the same no matter where you buy it, Exxon, Shell, Chevron, AM/PM, etc. Is this true? If so how does Chevron advertise Techron? So does this mean I should be filling my boat up at the local Circle K?

 

[LV R SCHIADA'S]

If it was "all" the same, you wouldn't be getting raped at the pump from town to town or city to city, they hype and inflate the price because they say shipping or "what the market will bear", why do you pay less in south phoenix vs scottsdale !!!! its all a friggin scam !!!!!!!!, let them prove otherwise.

Oh but Cali claims to have the greenest gas, ie the harshest epa requirements, if thats the case then have all the lower 48 make the fuel to that standard ????, and eliminate 89, just have 87 & 91, fuel is fuel unless its fora specialty, like pure racefuel , or avgas, or jet a fuel.....etc....

 

[HWLaser23]

I was watching a show on ABC tonight and they said that all gas is the same no matter where you buy it, Exxon, Shell, Chevron, AM/PM, etc. Is this true? If so how does Chevron advertise Techron? So does this mean I should be filling my boat up at the local Circle K?

this is true. the only diff is chevron add techron as they fill the tanker trucks shell ads there v power mobil adds what ever they add and places like arco and valero circle k dont add anything and it is just raw unleaded fuel. the only diff in fuel is octane and 90 percent of engines today are engineered to burn 87 in its raw state. that goes for autos and marine applications up to 700 hp. marine apps are designed to burn 87 and thats what your manual says to run. folks that have the blackish tinge on there transoms are folks that run 89 or higher. them computer adj for the higher octane to burn at 87 the black stuff is unburnt residue that comes out the pipes. or its cause the motors are running rich (u see this on high performance motors) mostly. this is a timing issue at that point. i used to burn 91 and my transom would turn black. i switched to 87 and tada no more black on the transom

 

[HWLaser23]

If it was "all" the same, you wouldn't be getting raped at the pump from town to town or city to city, they hype and inflate the price because they say shipping or "what the market will bear", why do you pay less in south phoenix vs scottsdale !!!! its all a friggin scam !!!!!!!!, let them prove otherwise.

Oh but Cali claims to have the greenest gas, ie the harshest epa requirements, if thats the case then have all the lower 48 make the fuel to that standard ????, and eliminate 89, just have 87 & 91, fuel is fuel unless its fora specialty, like pure racefuel , or avgas, or jet a fuel.....etc....

how much fuel is at the pump is dictated by the franchisee. all stations pay the same the station markes up for taxes and any where from 3 to 7 cents for profit. if one station is higher than the other its because the station owner is allowed to really charge as much as he wants but they cant cause they have to be competive. for example there is a mobil by my house with diesel at 2 99 and two blocks down on the same street chevron has there diesel at 2 65. its owner gouging trying to make a small buck. everyone thinks there is money in owning a gas station and i cannot tell you how false that is. they make there money with the convience store goods inside

 

[Ziggy]

Learned the same from a local independent gas station owner. He buys his fuel from the same place as the Major brands but without the fancy additives.

 

[cobalt23]

I know I'm supposed to run 87 Octane in the boat, I'm just wondering why I've been putting Chevron in it instead of the gas across the street that is usually 15 cents a gallon cheaper.sphss

 

[HWLaser23]

there is a fuel depot close to me in bloomington where i tow tankers to or from if they break down on the racks. and they are all on the same property. 8 diff companies. the raw fuel get delivered to common tanks run by kinder morgan who sell the raw fuel to the diff companys. then each company buys from kinder morgan who pumps into the other companies tanks direct from the common tank. chevron for instance has a tank of techron next to there raw unleaded tanks and computers add the mix together as in goes into a waiting tanker for delivery. all big companies do this. all the "lower end" companies like arco just deliver raw unleaded they only add the required 10% ethanol. forgot to mention all the companies add the ethanol its just the bigger companies add there special additive also.

 

[HWLaser23]

I know I'm supposed to run 87 Octane in the boat, I'm just wondering why I've been putting Chevron in it instead of the gas across the street that is usually 15 cents a gallon cheaper.sphss

your only paying for the additive that is put in. all motors are designed to run off of the raw unleaded with no additives the additive supposedly just help prolong the life of your motor. but you can do the same thing with a bottle of fuel system stuff from autozone every once and a while if it makes you feel better.

 

[wolfie]

From what I understand there are actually only two tanks with 87 & 91 in either. The 89 is a combination of the two as they are blended at the pump in an equal mix. I was told this by a franchise owner so I'm assuming this is true.

 

[ellabo]

all gasoline is the same. it all comes from crude oil. it is refined at a refinery and shipped through an underground high pressure pipeline into temporary storage tanks before leaving via tanker truck or another pipeline to their final destination. typically, a shipper will have their own tanks but every so often (meaning quite a bit) when their product is almost due at their tank, they might not have the sufficient room. therefore, whoever is next will get the fuel until room is made.

arco gas gets piled on top of chevron gas, which could've been piled on top of shell gas. i dont know the exact percentage, but chevron injects a little bit more additive into their fuel.

your best bet would be to purchase the least expensive fuel. the only time i ever purchase premium (aside from owning cars that required it) is right after and oil change to completely clean out the injectors. i know this because for the past ten+ years i have worked in the oil industry business for kinder morgan

i tell everyone i know to purchase the least expensive fuel.

 

[ellabo]

From what I understand there are actually only two tanks with 87 & 91 in either. The 89 is a combination of the two as they are blended at the pump in an equal mix. I was told this by a franchise owner so I'm assuming this is true.

89 is a 60/40 blend of the two

 

[Boat Tech]

I know I'm supposed to run 87 Octane in the boat, I'm just wondering why I've been putting Chevron in it instead of the gas across the street that is usually 15 cents a gallon cheaper.sphss

I am not sure, But maybe the big name brand stations have more support in someway to keep there under ground fuel tanks new, clean, and updated to try to keep the fuels they sale you clean from dirt and water,ect. And the lower priced stations seem to sale bad old, dirty gas and your car seems to run bad, And some times it seems to wear out the spark plugs sooner in some cases.Unsure

 

[HWLaser23]

i know for a fact that alot of times there is 91 in the 87 tanks also. on a few occasions i have gone to pick up a tanker truck carrying chevron 91 and had to be off loaded before being taken the the repair shop. while i was hooking up the truck for tow the driver was making phone calls cause we were to far from his original destination. his peeps called him back and said take it to XYZ station and off load into the 87 tank cause that was the closest chevron that could take the amount that was on board. so sometime when you think you are pumping 87 you could get lucky. all stations do this. they never put 87 into 91 tanks though (supposedly)

 

[ellabo]

i know for a fact that alot of times there is 91 in the 87 tanks also. on a few occasions i have gone to pick up a tanker truck carrying chevron 91 and had to be off loaded before being taken the the repair shop. while i was hooking up the truck for tow the driver was making phone calls cause we were to far from his original destination. his peeps called him back and said take it to XYZ station and off load into the 87 tank cause that was the closest chevron that could take the amount that was on board. so sometime when you think you are pumping 87 you could get lucky. all stations do this. they never put 87 into 91 tanks though (supposedly)

when the cuts at the terminal are made, we always run 91 into the 87 (to a certain degree). that is done to ensure that the customer will receive the best possible premium fuel.

if in fact 87 does get into 91, we isolate that tank from the rack and blend it off over a period of time. it has happened before and will happen again. operator mistake.

 

[HWLaser23]

when the cuts at the terminal are made, we always run 91 into the 87 (to a certain degree). that is done to ensure that the customer will receive the best possible premium fuel.

if in fact 87 does get into 91, we isolate that tank from the rack and blend it off over a period of time. it has happened before and will happen again. operator mistake.

i was refering to an off load at a station for a delivery truck not the rack i have had to pull into some stations over 110 ft long to offload before my tow truck is 40 ft and the tankers average between 60 to 73 ft dep on truck and trailer set up. did you work for kinder morgan in bloomington????

 

[ellabo]

i was refering to an off load at a station for a delivery truck not the rack i have had to pull into some stations over 110 ft long to offload before my tow truck is 40 ft and the tankers average between 60 to 73 ft dep on truck and trailer set up. did you work for kinder morgan in bloomington????

i understand. i was refering to our operarions out in the field.

yeah i was there for about 5 years. watson station ... corner of wilmington and del amo.

i am now in the control center in orange

 

[HWLaser23]

i understand. i was refering to our operarions out in the field.

yeah i was there for about 5 years. watson station ... corner of wilmington and del amo.

i am now in the control center in orange

nice... we tow for POMA and we towed for benito before they were bought out. we are in and out of the bloomington racks all the time doing pull starts on rigs that there starters hang up or towing them off the rack cause they cant get started back up for other reasons. one time we had a guy whos engine ran away on him when he started it back up and the motor grenaded right there on the rack. when i picked him up the saftey guys asked me "hey can you grab those 2 pistions and take them with you" as i cleaned up the messsphss

 

[ellabo]

nice... we tow for POMA and we towed for benito before they were bought out. we are in and out of the bloomington racks all the time doing pull starts on rigs that there starters hang up or towing them off the rack cause they cant get started back up for other reasons. one time we had a guy whos engine ran away on him when he started it back up and the motor grenaded right there on the rack. when i picked him up the saftey guys asked me "hey can you grab those 2 pistions and take them with you" as i cleaned up the messsphss

if you have towed for us, then it must've been at our carson terminal right by the old texaco refinery. our watson station, where i was, didn't have any racks.

 

[HWLaser23]

if you have towed for us, then it must've been at our carson terminal right by the old texaco refinery. our watson station, where i was, didn't have any racks.

the only racks we frequent are the bloomington racks on riverside ave just south of the 10. the tanks and piping all over that place says kindermorgan on them. is this not one of your facilities???? POMA is just down the road from there. the only other places we pick up tankers is on the road and when that happens we go to a station to off load then to where ever they wish

 

[ellabo]

the only racks we frequent are the bloomington racks on riverside ave just south of the 10. the tanks and piping all over that place says kindermorgan on them. is this not one of your facilities???? POMA is just down the road from there. the only other places we pick up tankers is on the road and when that happens we go to a station to off load then to where ever they wish

i always get wilmington and bloomington mixed upsphss

that is our colton facility