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These are the president's own words, prior to becoming president:

◾The Supreme Court has never held that the president has such powers. As president, I will follow existing law, and when it comes to U.S. citizens and residents, I will only authorize surveillance for national security purposes consistent with FISA and other federal statutes.

◾The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.

◾As Commander-in-Chief, the President does have a duty to protect and defend the United States. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent.

◾Warrantless surveillance of American citizens, in defiance of FISA, is unlawful and unconstitutional.

◾I believe the [Bush] Administration’s use of executive authority to over-classify information is a bad idea. We need to restore the balance between the necessarily secret and the necessity of openness in our democracy – which is why I have called for a National Declassification Center.

◾Any President takes an oath to, “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” The American people need to know where we stand on these issues before they entrust us with this responsibility – particularly at a time when our laws, our traditions, and our Constitution have been repeatedly challenged by this [the Bush] Administration.

Feel more comfortable now??????? Could he have been lying again?????:)hand:)hand:)hand
 

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Well folks we have witnessed WW1 then WW2. Get ready for the really big show. It will be a coming to a convenience store near you. Or some fleabag hotel in your town. Good luck.
 

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This could turn into a real clusterfuck. The "Idiot in Chief" has no real policy for the Islamic problems that plague the West. He backed himself into a corner, and any military action will be to save his own face. Putin will have Hussein hiding under his bed. It looks like the USA will be the real losers in this situation,
 

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This could turn into a real clusterfuck. The "Idiot in Chief" has no real policy for the Islamic problems that plague the West. He backed himself into a corner, and any military action will be to save his own face. Putin will have Hussein hiding under his bed. It looks like the USA will be the real losers in this situation,
I can't imagine him killing his own dirt turkeys...
He'll bow out, its not like everyone doesn't know he's a fraud and liar anyhow.
 

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I have seen this before...we bomb a couple empty camps in the desert, maybe an aspirin factory and a milk factory, while somewhere else a couple of our soldiers will be dragged behind vehicles or hung from a bridge. Then a couple of years later they fly planes into buildings. All the while they ramp up the discussion on WMD to the point when real men come to office they will have to do something about it....and then be blamed for the lack of evidence the Democrats contrived in the first place to look tough and do the old saber rattling.
 

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They say history repeats itself


I have seen this before...we bomb a couple empty camps in the desert, maybe an aspirin factory and a milk factory, while somewhere else a couple of our soldiers will be dragged behind vehicles or hung from a bridge. Then a couple of years later they fly planes into buildings. All the while they ramp up the discussion on WMD to the point when real men come to office they will have to do something about it....and then be blamed for the lack of evidence the Democrats contrived in the first place to look tough and do the old saber rattling.
 

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Impeach President for no congressional support


 

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I put it all on Boehner. Any one of the half dozen recent scandals could have put the entire administration in check if he would stand up and appoint a special investigation committee.
Poor D. Issa..he has his hands full and no way to actually solve the problem.
Beginning with F/F, If the orders hadn't came from the top it is only logical to think that anyone who would sign off on giving weapons to criminals in a foreign country should be terminated and prosecuted and yet Holder slides with a contempt of congress charge that is just empty words.
The checks and balances of government that our country was founded on can't function if limp dick boehner won't get off his dead ass and make them work.....And zero knows it. He will continue to do just as he pleases until someone stands up and slaps him down.

If that ever were to happen zero will not back down, but he will do something so obviously impeachable trying to cover his ass the entire country will see what he is really all about.

It's all about the truth, it's the one thing he has been hiding since his first day on the job. As for Syria and the chem weapons....Has anybody had thought that it might be a scam? There is no real need for the current leadership to use chem weapons to kill innocent citizens, they have an army and had been doing worse things without resorting to a weapon that would force something
really serious to happen...killing innocents en-masse (sp) is more like a terrorist move.

As far as i am concerned, let the crazy mussys kill the crazy mussys and relocate the ones who don't want to be part of the game. We have no business dropping bombs on what is little more than the greater of 2 evils.


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Just caught the 2 Biden clips.....WOW! That are the first real words out of that mans mouth...ever.
 

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I put it all on Boehner. Any one of the half dozen recent scandals could have put the entire administration in check if he would stand up and appoint a special investigation committee.
Poor D. Issa..he has his hands full and no way to actually solve the problem.
Beginning with F/F, If the orders hadn't came from the top it is only logical to think that anyone who would sign off on giving weapons to criminals in a foreign country should be terminated and prosecuted and yet Holder slides with a contempt of congress charge that is just empty words.
The checks and balances of government that our country was founded on can't function if limp dick boehner won't get off his dead ass and make them work.....And zero knows it. He will continue to do just as he pleases until someone stands up and slaps him down.

If that ever were to happen zero will not back down, but he will do something so obviously impeachable trying to cover his ass the entire country will see what he is really all about.

It's all about the truth, it's the one thing he has been hiding since his first day on the job. As for Syria and the chem weapons....Has anybody had thought that it might be a scam? There is no real need for the current leadership to use chem weapons to kill innocent citizens, they have an army and had been doing worse things without resorting to a weapon that would force something
really serious to happen...killing innocents en-masse (sp) is more like a terrorist move.

As far as i am concerned, let the crazy mussys kill the crazy mussys and relocate the ones who don't want to be part of the game. We have no business dropping bombs on what is little more than the greater of 2 evils.


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Just caught the 2 Biden clips.....WOW! That are the first real words out of that mans mouth...ever.
The Muslim brotherhood in Egypt was staging fake "violent death" scenes for photo and video distribution, the Syria video looks fake as shit...no chemical burns, puke, blood, piss, or shit, nothing that would make it look real...but maybe I have not seen the right footage. An ex graduate of a US school, looks like EWU who lives in the middle east, is popping up on several blogs saying its fake and don't let him bomb us (no clue if its real but interesting). Clinton used more Tomahawks as a from of legal and political distractions than I thought was possible without going straight to prison.
 

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Just caught the 2 Biden clips.....WOW! That are the first real words out of that mans mouth...ever.
You do realize those were back when he was a senator and Bush was in office, don't you? Zero has already committed US troops to fight on foreign soil and Biden did nothing. What makes you think this time will be different?
 

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You do realize those were back when he was a senator and Bush was in office, don't you? Zero has already committed US troops to fight on foreign soil and Biden did nothing. What makes you think this time will be different?
Me goof...for not checking dates. you goof......every time you speak:thumb:
 

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The Muslim brotherhood in Egypt was staging fake "violent death" scenes for photo and video distribution, the Syria video looks fake as shit...no chemical burns, puke, blood, piss, or shit, nothing that would make it look real...but maybe I have not seen the right footage. An ex graduate of a US school, looks like EWU who lives in the middle east, is popping up on several blogs saying its fake and don't let him bomb us (no clue if its real but interesting). Clinton used more Tomahawks as a from of legal and political distractions than I thought was possible without going straight to prison.
I haven't heard anyone else say this. I agree. Everything's all blurry that video. We're being duped into starting a war.
But that's EXACTLY what Barak wants. Normally, I would see the defensive aspect of going to war, but I don't see it in this case. It's a war between Islamic extremists. Let them kill each other. They don't need our help. And Israel??? Pffft, they can MORE than handle themselves if we would just get out of the way.
This is all BULLSHIT, and it's possibly going to turn out very bad.:((((((
 

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I haven't heard anyone else say this. I agree. Everything's all blurry that video. We're being duped into starting a war.
But that's EXACTLY what Barak wants. Normally, I would see the defensive aspect of going to war, but I don't see it in this case. It's a war between Islamic extremists. Let them kill each other. They don't need our help. And Israel??? Pffft, they can MORE than handle themselves if we would just get out of the way.
This is all BULLSHIT, and it's possibly going to turn out very bad.:((((((
Agreed!!! We help them, they'll hate us and try to bomb us anyway. Leave them to their own devices!
 

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You mean Obozo will have to give back his Nobel Peace Prize for not following thru with stuff he was gonna do???
 

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While I think we should stay out of the conflict all together and let them decide their own fate, man I hate to see little kids butchered down like that. I know, I know as they get older they will all be indoctrinated to hate America but man, to me infants and young children are just so innoncent and vulnerable and to have that regime chemical attack them like that (assuming that they are responsible) just hits a compassionate spot with me. The world is just plain F'D up right now in a lot of ways but seeing little kids smiling, playing and just being innocent little kids always seems to make you feel a little better about thngs. I just hate to see them become innocent victims in that shitty country. O has shown his hand now and already made the redline statement. He will look like a bigger idiot on the world stage then he already is if he doesn't take some form of action. I wonder if he will seek congressional approval or not or just violate that rule of government also? Wouldn't put it past him to act alone and recklessly.
 

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I have seen this before...we bomb a couple empty camps in the desert, maybe an aspirin factory and a milk factory, while somewhere else a couple of our soldiers will be dragged behind vehicles or hung from a bridge. Then a couple of years later they fly planes into buildings. All the while they ramp up the discussion on WMD to the point when real men come to office they will have to do something about it....and then be blamed for the lack of evidence the Democrats contrived in the first place to look tough and do the old saber rattling.
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You mean Obozo will have to give back his Nobel Peace Prize for not following thru with stuff he was gonna do???
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I'm beginning to believe your right, if they want to kill each other, what business is it of ours.
I used to not think this way, but after the "wars" over in the Middle East, with very little, if ANY positive results, my mind has changed. They are backward barbarians!!!
 
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