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http://sandiegobayfair.org/

Sept 18, 19, 20

Who is going and who is racing? It is a great time and I hope to see many Board members there.

I propose we set up a time and place (probably the Beer garden at crown point) to have a PB forums gathering. I would say after the races on Sat and it would have to be long enough so the racers could get there after the drivers meeting at the timing tower.

I will not be racing and am not sure if Tre will or not. I will have an EZ up about 1/2 track by the tower with a CYCO Designs banner on it stop by and say Hi.

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Anyone know for "sure" what is going to be there? I have heard all kinds of stories. To my knowledge the unlimiteds and the lites are not going to be, which I think was a main draw for the event.

limited classes of Circles? invitational only Drags? To what degree? Anything else? It seems to be a big mystery even on their website there is no info that I can see.
 

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Q&A with Ken Muscatel about San Diego With so much discussion surrounding the news out of San Diego, the ABRA felt Ken Muscatel (a driver, owner, promoter and ABRA Board Member) might be able to help answer some of the possible questions from fans and explain ABRA's position and events leading up to the decision of dropping San Diego from the unlimited schedule:
1. What was the problem between San Diego and ABRA?
Actually, there is no problem per se. San Diego, like all other race sites, has to pay a fee for the boats to be able to come, but because of money problems has been having serious difficulties. Three years ago sponsorship help was obtained at the last minute to bring the boats, but that came from one of the teams, not from the San Diego race. The last two years the racing fees were paid for by Race Marketing Partners, a group that Barbara Carper and myself put together very much at the last minute in 2007 to preserve the unlimited race, but unfortunately, despite a significant sponsorship from the Boeing Company and San Diego Union Tribune our effort failed financially, in large part because the event failed to attract enough paying fans. At this point, it is up to the San Diego board to pay for the U boats to come, or to let them go. Having been on the board I know the organization is in no financial position to do that and many on the board felt they shouldn’t pay for any of the attractions. Unfortunately, that’s where it stands today. The ABRA didn’t want our fans to think we were coming if it was clear that this was not going to happen, so we put out the announcement. If San Diego is able to raise the money we’ll be back in a heartbeat.

2. What did we learn?
We learned that the event was on shaky financial ground and needed help in marketing and sales. This is not really much of a secret. They put on a nice event from an operational perspective, and it’s a great site, but drawing a paying crowd remains a challenge that we just couldn’t overcome. The event’s footprint in San Diego is now very small, and getting the attention of the community was tough. We spent a lot of time and money trying, with limited success.

3. When was the last year that SD was really able to hold their own?
San Diego hasn’t been able to pay the full race fee on its own for the past three years, since 2005.

4. Before the group you lead came into SD, who else has tried to help out the committee over the last few years?
Prior to Race Marketing Partners Erick Ellstrom brought in some additional sponsors to preserve the event in 2006- that was the UIM World Championship event.

5. Is this committee supportive of the unlimited hydroplanes?
The committee in San Diego has mixed feelings about the Unlimiteds, I think primarily driven by financial/cost concerns. If the U boats would race for free, the only way they could afford to have us, we would of course be welcome, but the committee has been unable to raise anything near the level of sponsorship needed to preserve our participation.

It important that our fans understand that extraordinary efforts have been made in the past three years to support San Diego above and beyond what any other race has received. The ABRA as an entity is just a sanctioning body with neither the means nor the resources to support races on their own. That is why Barb Carper and I assembled a group of investors in 2007 to save the event. What many people don’t understand is that it wasn’t until ten days before the 2007 race that the U boat participation was secured! The committee did not have the funds and was not able to pay the fees for us to come, yet it had been promoted as an Unlimited race.

RMP, consisting of stalwarts in our sport such as Bob Hughes, Jane Schumacher, Greg O’Farrell, Kim Gregory (rest his soul), Fran Muncey, Dave Bartush, Carper and me stood up, put up the money and the guarantees to keep the race in 2007 and make the best effort for it to succeed in 2008.

Barb and I went back and forth from Seattle to San Diego an average of twice a month, served on the Board of Director of Thunderboats Unlimited Club (TUC), put in hundreds of hours and spent enough money to make our hair stand on end, but to no avail.

At times our relations with the board were difficult, but everyone on that board tried their best and their hearts were (and are) in the right place. This outcome wasn’t for a lack of trying, and it upsets all of us that things have come to this point, but there were just no alternatives left.

I’d be happy to address any other questions people might have about San Diego. Thanks for listening.
 

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Nice, The NJBA and IHBA September races are not on the same weekend this year. I will be there for at least one day. :)devil
they said when bernie little died that the unlimited's would not / could not keep running San Diego ... do to the fact that he was 90% of the money for the sport ... well him and miss bud ....
 

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we housed miss bud for a day or two here in our warehouse when its rig broke down, i was probably 10 and walked into the shop and was going apesh*t at the size of that monster!

...and inbev hasn't been too bad to us! haha, wait til you guys try the new BL coming out, Bud Light Golden Wheat... !
 

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we housed miss bud for a day or two here in our warehouse when its rig broke down, i was probably 10 and walked into the shop and was going apesh*t at the size of that monster!

...and inbev hasn't been too bad to us! haha, wait til you guys try the new BL coming out, Bud Light Golden Wheat... !
If it is anything like the BL Lime that they are shoving down everyones throat on every billboard..."Sign Me up!!!!"( Said with a heavy lisp.)

Maybe they will get a coors sponsorship this year at bayfair. There are enough Silver sodas consumed every year to pay the unlimiteds to show up just in recycled cans.

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If it is anything like the BL Lime that they are shoving down everyones throat on every billboard..."Sign Me up!!!!"( Said with a heavy lisp.)

Maybe they will get a coors sponsorship this year at bayfair. There are enough Silver sodas consumed every year to pay the unlimiteds to show up just in recycled cans.

Cy
I can agree there, lime is awful.. Look forward to seein you guyr at bayfair!
 

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yeah my step dad runs the distributorship down here for his dad and we had some last weekend, pretty decent stuff!

btw, zipper- those vid's busby posted of your hot rod looked pretty good man, congrats!
 

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What does it take to race at the drags? Is there going to be brackets?

Call IHBA. It is normally an invitational and they will allow some outside racers to fill any classes that may be lacking. They may run a gambler bracket again. It depends on how much time they are promised on the water.

Cy
 
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