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Anyone have any ideas what the Bush Doctrine really is??
 

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The "Bush Doctrine" is a term coined by the liberal media to give a name to what the President's vision is.

What their idea of what it is has changed at least 5 times since 2001.
 

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From what I recall the 'Bush Doctrine' had to do with preemptive (sp) strikes against nations that pose a threat to America. Basically a common-sense philosophy of hitting first, BEFORE an enemy nation can hit us, and not waiting until there's thousands of Americans laying dead in the streets. Pretty much no-brainer type shitt if you ask me.
 

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The "Bush Doctrine" is a term coined by the liberal media to give a name to what the President's vision is.

What their idea of what it is has changed at least 5 times since 2001.
Correctamundo.

After I found out what it was. (I thought it was an actual affidavit Bush wrote) I watched the interview again. Yeah he caught her off guard with a loaded questions with no true answer. Palin actually did pretty good with the question.

I find it really interesting (Now that I know)that morning radio programs (morning zoo, Frank show, Carolla), who spent the morning slamming Palin, when they themselves have absolutely no idea what the were talking about.
 

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From what I recall the 'Bush Doctrine' had to do with preemptive (sp) strikes against nations that pose a threat to America. Basically a common-sense philosophy of hitting first, BEFORE an enemy nation can hit us, and not waiting until there's thousands of Americans laying dead in the streets. Pretty much no-brainer type shitt if you ask me.
That is one of the speeches the media includes.

I say dam straight we are going to not only come over there & kick ass, we are are going to make sure none of you other mother f ers are not planning to also start sheehite.
 

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I find it really interesting (Now that I know)that morning radio programs (morning zoo, Frank show, Carolla), who spent the morning slamming Palin, when they themselves have absolutely no idea what the were talking about.
When I think politics I think Adam Carolla. Howard stearn is another good source.:)grn
 

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I found it amusing that Charlie Gibson condescendingly grilled Palin on this and a few other things. I'm doubting had Mr Obama been in the seat that the questions would have been asked and pounded upon in the same manner. But that's just a guess. ;)
 

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I found it amusing that Charlie Gibson condescendingly grilled Palin on this and a few other things. I'm doubting had Mr Obama been in the seat that the questions would have been asked and pounded upon in the same manner. But that's just a guess. ;)
Just a guess???....riiiight. Some taped recordings of Gibson's past interviews of other politicans were reviewed and all the interviews he did had no "hardball" or "no correct answer" questions. He raked Palin over the coals with questions like "have you stopped beating your children?" What little respect I had for Gibson before that interview I lost. Like the Barbara Walters interview of Mc Cain on 'The View' was a perfect example of liberals sabotaging a candadate they oppose. What a fukkin' hit piece that was. Liberal bias in the media? How can anyone say no with a straight face?:mad:
 

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I found it amusing that Charlie Gibson condescendingly grilled Palin on this and a few other things. I'm doubting had Mr Obama been in the seat that the questions would have been asked and pounded upon in the same manner. But that's just a guess. ;)
The funniest part of that was when Palin asked him what he was referring to. He had no idea. He simply repeated the "Bush Doctrine". I hope the media keeps up there relentless hounding of Palin. It will seal Obama's fate even more.
 

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Here is some information about the man that originaly used " the Bush doctrine". I did not really know either (guess i won't be a VP) so i found this story.

By Charles Krauthammer
Saturday, September 13, 2008; A17

"At times visibly nervous . . . Ms. Palin most visibly stumbled when she was asked by Mr. Gibson if she agreed with the Bush doctrine. Ms. Palin did not seem to know what he was talking about. Mr. Gibson, sounding like an impatient teacher, informed her that it meant the right of 'anticipatory self-defense.' "
-- New York Times, Sept. 12
Informed her? Rubbish.
The New York Times got it wrong. And Charlie Gibson got it wrong.
There is no single meaning of the Bush doctrine. In fact, there have been four distinct meanings, each one succeeding another over the eight years of this administration -- and the one Charlie Gibson cited is not the one in common usage today. It is utterly different.
He asked Palin, "Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?"
She responded, quite sensibly to a question that is ambiguous, "In what respect, Charlie?"
Sensing his "gotcha" moment, Gibson refused to tell her. After making her fish for the answer, Gibson grudgingly explained to the moose-hunting rube that the Bush doctrine "is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense."
Wrong.
I know something about the subject because, as the Wikipedia entry on the Bush doctrine notes, I was the first to use the term. In the cover essay of the June 4, 2001, issue of the Weekly Standard entitled, "The Bush Doctrine: ABM, Kyoto, and the New American Unilateralism," I suggested that the Bush administration policies of unilaterally withdrawing from the ABM treaty and rejecting the Kyoto protocol, together with others, amounted to a radical change in foreign policy that should be called the Bush doctrine.
Then came 9/11, and that notion was immediately superseded by the advent of the war on terror. In his address to the joint session of Congress nine days after 9/11, President Bush declared: "Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime." This "with us or against us" policy regarding terror -- first deployed against Pakistan when Secretary of State Colin Powell gave President Musharraf that seven-point ultimatum to end support for the Taliban and support our attack on Afghanistan -- became the essence of the Bush doctrine.
Until Iraq. A year later, when the Iraq war was looming, Bush offered his major justification by enunciating a doctrine of preemptive war. This is the one Charlie Gibson thinks is the Bush doctrine.
It's not. It's the third in a series and was superseded by the fourth and current definition of the Bush doctrine, the most sweeping formulation of the Bush approach to foreign policy and the one that most clearly and distinctively defines the Bush years: the idea that the fundamental mission of American foreign policy is to spread democracy throughout the world. It was most dramatically enunciated in Bush's second inaugural address: "The survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands. The best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world."
This declaration of a sweeping, universal American freedom agenda was consciously meant to echo John Kennedy's pledge in his inaugural address that the United States "shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." It draws also from the Truman doctrine of March 1947 and from Wilson's 14 points.
If I were in any public foreign policy debate today, and my adversary were to raise the Bush doctrine, both I and the audience would assume -- unless my interlocutor annotated the reference otherwise -- that he was speaking about the grandly proclaimed (and widely attacked) freedom agenda of the Bush administration.
Not the Gibson doctrine of preemption.
Not the "with us or against us" no-neutrality-is-permitted policy of the immediate post-9/11 days.
Not the unilateralism that characterized the pre-9/11 first year of the Bush administration.
Presidential doctrines are inherently malleable and difficult to define. The only fixed "doctrines" in American history are the Monroe and the Truman doctrines which come out of single presidential statements during administrations where there were few other contradictory or conflicting foreign policy crosscurrents.
Such is not the case with the Bush doctrine.
Yes, Sarah Palin didn't know what it is. But neither does Charlie Gibson. And at least she didn't pretend to know -- while he looked down his nose and over his glasses with weary disdain, sighing and "sounding like an impatient teacher," as the Times noted. In doing so, he captured perfectly the establishment snobbery and intellectual condescension that has characterized the chattering classes' reaction to the mother of five who presumes to play on their stage.
 
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