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Here's a link to an article I received from GawnCa via email-
http://www.sacbee.com/topstories/story/1513445.html
it's in regards to going ahead with the building of the "peripheral canal" to bypass the Delta to send more water to SoCal. This same thing came up back in 1982 which the voters of CA rejected.

The Recreational Boaters of California are involved to try and protect the rights of recreational boaters but it would probably be a good idea to let the RBOC know we will back them. In the past, the RBOC has been successful in fighting for our rights.
Here's what they posted on their website-
State Water Resources Department to Consider Boater Policies in Delta Planning.
RBOC is encouraged by and applauds the California Department of Water Resources statement that it will be considering important boater policies regarding access to navigable waterways as the department develops projects for the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta.
This positive announcement by Director Lester Snow is an important step in our efforts to ensure continued navigation by recreational boats wherever any control structure is planned for placement across a navigable Delta waterway.
The Delta Vision Blue Ribbon Task Force is working to identify and evaluate alternative measures and management practices that will be necessary to implement the Delta Vision’s recommendations. RBOC is participating in this process and is guided by the following policy that has been developed by its Board:
Recreational Boaters of California (RBOC) will advocate to protect the rights of recreational boaters to assure access for continued navigation by recreational boats on the waters of the California Delta where ever any “control structure” (such as, but not limited to gates or barriers whether temporary or permanent) is planned for placement across a navigable Delta waterway. RBOC will seek assurances that as any changes are contemplated which further alter Delta navigable waterways that alternatives are identified and implemented to the satisfaction of RBOC that will best preserve and sustain recreational boat passage at each location. RBOC will seek to have operable boat locks installed as an integral design component to mitigate for the placement of any control structure across any navigable Delta waterway. All control structures and boat locks or other alternatives satisfactory to RBOC for recreational boat passage are to be installed, maintained and operated without cost or expense to recreational boaters.
For me, I just hope this new canal doesn't affect the multiple lakes that flow into the Delta. Also, the thing that bothers me is the fact that these people always demand more once they get a little. Here's the link to the RBOC website to read about who they are and what they do-
http://www.rboc.org/index.html
 

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I think Ca instead should use the money to build more storage resvouirs and quit letting the rain go back into the ocean
 

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Angry American
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I think Ca instead should use the money to build more storage resvouirs and quit letting the rain go back into the ocean
I agree! With reservoirs, not only would there be water reserves but there could be additional benefits also. There would be jobs created for the construction of the dams, there would be additional dollars brought in with additional recreation areas, boating, fishing, and camping. With those additional rec areas and more dollars being brought in, additional jobs could be created to sustain and maintain them.
That all might be too easy though.
 

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I agree, But.

It is necessary for fresh water to flow to the ocean. Without that flow, the salt water comes farther inland and ruins the fresh water areas.
 

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"THEY" are already moving too much water around the delta with the existing canals and whatever. What they propose now is moving the inlet farther north there-by getting all of the cleanest water to ship south. Can you say "Jellyfish in Sherman lake" (already happening in 2007-2008) :mad::mad:
 

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I think So Cal should take a lesson for the Auzzies and start desalinating water from the ocean to support their thirsty habits of pools, golf greens, and greener lawns. Not to mention the amount of water they waste letting it run down the gutters every night, all year long.
 

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I think So Cal should take a lesson for the Auzzies and start desalinating water from the ocean to support their thirsty habits of pools, golf greens, and greener lawns. Not to mention the amount of water they waste letting it run down the gutters every night, all year long.
Good points,but did you know statistics show that the average family in So cal uses half what a Nor cal does and rightfully so
i am Native Sacramenton and we have the biggest two rivers merging together in our back yard,so we should have dibs
And if we have any leftovers the So Calers can purchase at a fair price:(:(
 

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But, if you consider there are 4 times as many people living in So Cal as in Nor Cal that means they use twice as much water. It's the So Cal politicians that got Sacramento to have to install water meters by, what, 2020? Why should we have to pay to supply them with water and then pay for water that we have naturally runnning through OUR city?
 

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The water table is too high. Can't make much money when you don't have to drill very deep. Besides, they get bigger kick-backs from the big businesses who are pushing for this canal.
 

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The water table is too high. Can't make much money when you don't have to drill very deep. Besides, they get bigger kick-backs from the big businesses who are pushing for this canal.
Yep! Probably ought to stop here before we get too deep into the political bs going on. ;)
 

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SoCal ought to pay for a canal from Washington State for their water. With all the rains and flooding going on up there, LA should have enough to do what they want.
 

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From Sacramento to bakersfield is known as the fruit basket to the world. Curently farmers wells are going dry and the water table is dropping, over 500 ft in some places. There has not been enough snow fall to fill the local reservoirs and if it does, the run off goes to the San Jauquin river to the delta out to the oceans. I did not even take my boat out here because water was below minimum standards. Their proposing to build more reservoirs but no money. Currently the polliticians are proposing to take our water and pump it to Sacramento while Sacs water is pumped to L.A. The central valley will then recieve dirty water from Sac. to grow fruits and vegetables for you to eat. Tastey huh. You cant juggle water like that! Even Mexico is complaining that we have tapped into the Colorado River so bad That their water table is dropping. The Colorado river used to flow all the way to the ocean, not any more! Do you want a green front yard or food on your table??? Quit washing your truck so much. Its still gonna depreciate. The entire central valley is on water restrictions year round now. I ripped up my yard and made it look like Arizona. I have saved more time and money, it is almost completely maintenance free. Hell I sold my Riding lawn mower and bought more chrome for my boat. I say ban all green yards in L.A. Nothing but rocks!!! they'll have plenty of water then. No more water fountains either, the rate of evaporation is astonishing especially in Vegas. The politicians are already banning recreational vehicles from some lakes. No fun there! There is a huge canal running from Lake Havasu all the way to Phoenix they loose approx 25% due to evaporation. I say no more green yards in Phoenix too.
We have all heard about whats been happening to the fresh water boating industry here in the west. Nothing but more and more restrictions on us. If we dont conserve our resources all we do is screw ourselves.
 

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You can go as far north as Red Bluff or Chico. They talk about building more reservoirs but the tree huggers won't let them as it might kill off some coack roach or goffer. I agree with all your points.
 

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You can go as far north as Red Bluff or Chico. They talk about building more reservoirs but the tree huggers won't let them as it might kill off some coack roach or goffer. I agree with all your points.
Dude, Ever hear of Lake Shasta and Lake Oroville. Those are some pretty big reservoirs........ What river do you propose to dam up?

I'd say split California into 2 states.... Sacramento to San Francisco south is South California and everything north of that is North California. Make Chico or Redding the new state capital and be done with all the city folk.
 

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Dude, have you been to any of these reservoirs lately? They are driing up and the water sure isn't going down the river. Split the state as you say and what would you have? I've got a map of a propsed state split and when I find it I'll post it. It sure isn't the way you would like. Yeah, Chico would make a great state capital, more liberal college kids strung out on booze and dope, we've already got that here in Sacramento but these are form Frisco and the L.A. area running things.
 
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