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Obama Haters,,Congratulations to President Obama, 4 more years to straighten out what the Republicians, Big Money interests have done to destroy this great Country. Even with Citizens United and all the dirty money you still could not win. Karma is a bitch.
 

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Obama Haters,,Congratulations to President Obama, 4 more years to straighten out what the Republicians, Big Money interests have done to destroy this great Country. Even with Citizens United and all the dirty money you still could not win. Karma is a bitch.
You statement is just the reason why a middle of the road Conservative like myself thinks you and your conceded, arrogant, self serving friends suck! Karma does suck and if the POTUS is re-elected its going to bite you in the ass in 4 years too when the bill comes due. It will for us all.
 

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I wonder what everyone is going to say when the lay-off notices come out because of Obama's policies. You parasites of business don't understand how it works.
What's that about being careful of what you ask for because you just may get it? I know of three businesses that will be issuing lay-off notices to their employees because they now know that their costs will be going up since Obama will be reelected. There are more out there. You guys can thank yourselves for that. I told the people that voted for Obama that I work with to look around. 1 in 7 will not be with us next year.
 

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Funny....I think giving us 8 years of Cheney/rumsy bit the Repcons on the ass....Then again, you guys all still think that that was a great admin'.......:cuckoo:
$2.4T a year in tax revenue and 4.5% unemployment was pretty damn good. That was until the democrats took control of congress and refused to fix what was happening in banking. Specially after so many republicans were trying to warn people about it.
 

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Funny....I think giving us 8 years of Cheney/rumsy bit the Repcons on the ass....Then again, you guys all still think that that was a great admin'.......:cuckoo:
Typical socialist democrat, always livin in the past and fuckin up the future.:)hammers
 

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Obama Haters,,Congratulations to President Obama, 4 more years to straighten out what the Republicians, Big Money interests have done to destroy this great Country. Even with Citizens United and all the dirty money you still could not win. Karma is a bitch.
Big money interests? You mean like "cash for clunkers"? the bail out? all the failed "green" energy companies that were funded and failed? And you haven't seen shit yet! :)hammers
 

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Thankyou to all of you who voted for obama ...to 4 more years of higher unemployment higher gas prices..ect ect
you have know idea what you have all done................enjoy...BECAUSE YOUR ALL GONNA BE CRYING "WHAT DID WE DO" :duh::duh::duh::duh::duh::duh: :bangmyhead::bangmyhead::bangmyhead:

im buying lotsa canned food and water guns and ammo................be ready
 

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Obama Haters,,Congratulations to President Obama, 4 more years to straighten out what the Republicians, Big Money interests have done to destroy this great Country. Even with Citizens United and all the dirty money you still could not win. Karma is a bitch.
Here is a little LIGHT reading for you:

What year did WJ Clinton take office??? What year did GW Bush take office???

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/30/business/fannie-mae-eases-credit-to-aid-mortgage-lending.html


Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending
By STEVEN A. HOLMES
Published: September 30, 1999
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In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders.

The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets -- including the New York metropolitan region -- will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.

Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.

In addition, banks, thrift institutions and mortgage companies have been pressing Fannie Mae to help them make more loans to so-called subprime borrowers. These borrowers whose incomes, credit ratings and savings are not good enough to qualify for conventional loans, can only get loans from finance companies that charge much higher interest rates -- anywhere from three to four percentage points higher than conventional loans.

''Fannie Mae has expanded home ownership for millions of families in the 1990's by reducing down payment requirements,'' said Franklin D. Raines, Fannie Mae's chairman and chief executive officer. ''Yet there remain too many borrowers whose credit is just a notch below what our underwriting has required who have been relegated to paying significantly higher mortgage rates in the so-called subprime market.''

Demographic information on these borrowers is sketchy. But at least one study indicates that 18 percent of the loans in the subprime market went to black borrowers, compared to 5 per cent of loans in the conventional loan market.

In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980's.

''From the perspective of many people, including me, this is another thrift industry growing up around us,'' said Peter Wallison a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. ''If they fail, the government will have to step up and bail them out the way it stepped up and bailed out the thrift industry.''Under Fannie Mae's pilot program, consumers who qualify can secure a mortgage with an interest rate one percentage point above that of a conventional, 30-year fixed rate mortgage of less than $240,000 -- a rate that currently averages about 7.76 per cent. If the borrower makes his or her monthly payments on time for two years, the one percentage point premium is dropped.

Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, does not lend money directly to consumers. Instead, it purchases loans that banks make on what is called the secondary market. By expanding the type of loans that it will buy, Fannie Mae is hoping to spur banks to make more loans to people with less-than-stellar credit ratings.

Fannie Mae officials stress that the new mortgages will be extended to all potential borrowers who can qualify for a mortgage. But they add that the move is intended in part to increase the number of minority and low income home owners who tend to have worse credit ratings than non-Hispanic whites.
 

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Obama Haters,,Congratulations to President Obama, 4 more years to straighten out what the Republicians, Big Money interests have done to destroy this great Country. Even with Citizens United and all the dirty money you still could not win. Karma is a bitch.
If you have a good job, you can thank big money interest. Without them there are no jobs!!! You don't have jobs without corporations. Go back 60 years when there weren't the corporations we have today. Health insurance, pensions, ect. My son's friend is from Moscow. She can tell you what it's like to live in a country where government controlled industry. She said that her mom and dad used to take turns who got to eat breakfast, who got to eat lunch and if they were lucky,they both got to eat dinner. And her father has a good job.

BTW, how much money did the unions and George Soros donate? And what is Soros' plan for the US? Could it be the same as what he did to the UK? How about what he and his father did to their neighbors growing up? Now there's a guy I'd want backing my politician!!!
 

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Obama Haters,,Congratulations to President Obama, 4 more years to straighten out what the Republicians, Big Money interests have done to destroy this great Country. Even with Citizens United and all the dirty money you still could not win. Karma is a bitch.
No, jealously is the real bitch here, "ON YOUR PART". Anyone who uses the terms "Big Money" and "dirty money" tells me you don't have any... Oh, but Obama can give you some of mine...Good Vote! :)bit
 

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Obama Haters,,Congratulations to President Obama, 4 more years to straighten out what the Republicians, Big Money interests have done to destroy this great Country. Even with Citizens United and all the dirty money you still could not win. Karma is a bitch.
Yea $8 gas, utilitly bills through the roof and as long as O doesn't run out of paper or ink absolutly no return on any investments, we will be going backwards on that front. Four years from now let us know how the south end of the north bound crow tastes OK buddy....
 

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You think that sell off today was bad, wait until the sell off happens before the new capital gains taxes hit!!! That's what the world economy is fearing right now.

You'll see a huge contraction due to the lack of investors.
 

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Congratulations to the entitlement class, government employees and illegals. You now outnumber the productive class that pays your salary so you get to press your agenda until there is no more productive class in America. Here's the first thing you will notice at the turn of the year as a direct result of your vote.

Tax increases coming Jan. 1. This is the best summary I've seen to now. However, even this one misses the 2% increase in the FICA tax for those of you still paying into SS.

Countdown to “Taxmageddon” – the date the largest tax hikes in the history of America will take effect. They will hit families, charities and small businesses in three great waves on January 1, 2013:

First Wave: Expiration of 2001 and 2003 Tax Relief
In 2001 and 2003, the GOP Congress enacted several tax cuts for small business owners, families, and investors (later re-upped by President Obama and Democrat Congress in 2010).

The following tax hikes will occur on January 1, 2013:
Personal income tax rates will rise on January 1, 2013. The top income tax rate will rise from 35 to 39.6 percent (this is also the rate at which the majority of small business profits are taxed). The lowest rate will rise from 10 to 15 percent. All the rates in between will also rise. Itemized deductions and personal exemptions will again phase out, which has the same mathematical effect as higher marginal tax rates. The full list of marginal rate hikes is below:
-The 10% bracket rises to a new and expanded 15%
-The 25% bracket rises to 28%
-The 28% bracket rises to 31%
-The 33% bracket rises to 36%
-The 35% bracket rises to 39.6%

Higher taxes on marriage and family coming on January 1, 2013. The “marriage penalty” (narrower tax brackets for married couples) will return from the first dollar of taxable income. The child tax credit will be cut in half from $1000 to $500 per child. The standard deduction will no longer be doubled for married couples relative to the single level.
Middle Class Death Tax returns on January 1, 2013. The death tax is currently 35% with an exemption of $5 million ($10 million for married couples). For those dying on or after January 1 2013, there is a 55 percent top death tax rate on estates over $1 million. A person leaving behind two homes and a retirement account could easily pass along a death tax bill to their loved ones.

Higher tax rates on savers and investors on January 1, 2013. The capital gains tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 23.8 percent in 2013. The top dividends tax will rise from 15 percent this year to 43.4 percent in 2013. This is because of scheduled rate hikes plus Obamacare’s investment surtax.

Second Wave: Obamacare Tax Hikes
There are twenty new or higher taxes in Obamacare. Some have already gone into effect (the tanning tax, the medicine cabinet tax, the HSA withdrawal tax, W-2 health insurance reporting, and the “economic substance doctrine”). Several more will go into effect on January 1, 2013. They include:

The Obamacare Medical Device Tax begins to be assessed on January 1, 2013. Medical device manufacturers employ 409,000 people in 12,000 plants across the country. This law imposes a new 2.3% excise tax on gross sales – even if the company does not earn a profit in a given year. Exempts items retailing for <$100.

The Obamacare Medicare Payroll Tax Hike takes effect on January 1, 2013. The Medicare payroll tax is currently 2.9 percent on all wages and self-employment profits. Starting in 2013, wages and profits exceeding $200,000 ($250,000 in the case of married couples) will face a 3.8 percent rate.

The Obamacare “Special Needs Kids Tax” comes online on January 1, 2013. Imposes a cap on FSAs of $2500 (now unlimited). Indexed to inflation after 2013. There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States , and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington , D.C. ( National Child Research Center ) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education. This Obamacare cap harms these families.
The Obamacare “Haircut” for Medical Itemized Deductions goes into force on January 1, 2013. Currently, those facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction for medical expenses to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). The new provision imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. Waived for 65+ taxpayers in 2013-2016 only.

Third Wave: The Alternative Minimum Tax and Employer Tax Hikes
When Americans prepare to file their tax returns in January of 2013, they’ll be in for a nasty surprise—the AMT won’t be held harmless, and many tax relief provisions will have expired. These tax increases will be in force for BOTH 2012 and 2013. The major items include:
The AMT will ensnare over 31 million families, up from 4 million last year. According to the left-leaning Tax Policy Center, Congress’ failure to index the AMT will lead to an explosion of AMT taxpaying families—rising from 4 million last year to 31 million. These families will have to calculate their tax burdens twice, and pay taxes at the higher level. The AMT was created in 1969 to ensnare a handful of taxpayers.
Full business expensing will disappear. In 2011, businesses can expense half of their purchases of equipment. Starting on 2013 tax returns, all of it will have to be “depreciated” (slowly deducted over many years).
Taxes will be raised on all types of businesses. There are literally scores of tax hikes on business that will take place. The biggest is the loss of the “research and experimentation tax credit,” but there are many, many others. Combining high marginal tax rates with the loss of this tax relief will cost jobs.

Tax Benefits for Education and Teaching Reduced. The deduction for tuition and fees will not be available. Tax credits for education will be limited. Teachers will no longer be able to deduct classroom expenses. Coverdell Education Savings Accounts will be cut. Employer-provided educational assistance is curtailed. The student loan interest deduction will be disallowed for hundreds of thousands of families.

Charitable Contributions from IRAs no longer allowed. Under current law, a retired person with an IRA can contribute up to $100,000 per year directly to a charity from their IRA. This contribution also counts toward an annual “required minimum distribution.” This ability will no longer be there!!
 

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Congratulations to the entitlement class, government employees and illegals. You now outnumber the productive class that pays your salary so you get to press your agenda until there is no more productive class in America...
Game Over!
 

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Congress has been playing their games for a couple years now. Most people aren't even aware of the fiscal cliff.

People need to wake up. So many people know nothing more about our legislature than what the guy on the evening news tells them. Ignorance is in abundance. That's scary. People are gloating about a win and have no idea of the consequences we are all facing in the upcoming weeks.



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Vote totals THEN and NOW...

2012 Election Results Map by State - Live Voting Updates - POLITICO.com

Californa vote totals:
5,581,991 or 59.1% Obama/Biden
3,645,262 or 38.6% Romney/Ryan

Illinois vote totals:
2,916,811 or 57.3% Obama/Biden
2,090,116 or 41.1% Romney/Ryan

NY Vote totals:
3,862,281 or 62.7% Obama/Biden
2,211,951 or 35.9% Romney/Ryan

Mass vote totals:
1,900,575 or 60.8% Obama/Biden
1,177,370 or 37.6% Romney/Ryan


Who Won The Popular Vote In 2012?

2012 - Obama Romney
Total: 60,662,601 57,821,399
Percent: 50.4% 48.0%



How has the popular vote finished in other recent presidential elections? In 2008, Obama/Biden topped McCain/Palin in the popular vote 69 million to 59 million. In 2004, Bush/Cheney defeated Kerry/Edwards in the popular vote 62 million to 59 million. In 2000, Gore/Lieberman won the popular vote over Bush/Cheney 50.9 million to 50.4 million, yet lost the election due to the Electoral College.
 
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