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16 illegals sue Arizona rancher

Claim violation of rights as they crossed his land

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Monday, February 9, 2009


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An Arizona man who has waged a 10-year campaign to stop a flood of illegal immigrants from crossing his property is being sued by 16 Mexican nationals who accuse him of conspiring to violate their civil rights when he stopped them at gunpoint on his ranch on the U.S.-Mexico border.
Roger Barnett, 64, began rounding up illegal immigrants in 1998 and turning them over to the U.S. Border Patrol, he said, after they destroyed his property, killed his calves and broke into his home.
His Cross Rail Ranch near Douglas, Ariz., is known by federal and county law enforcement authorities as "the avenue of choice" for immigrants seeking to enter the United States illegally.
Trial continues Monday in the federal lawsuit, which seeks $32 million in actual and punitive damages for civil rights violations, the infliction of emotional distress and other crimes. Also named are Mr. Barnett's wife, Barbara, his brother, Donald, and Larry Dever, sheriff in Cochise County, Ariz., where the Barnetts live. The civil trial is expected to continue until Friday.
The lawsuit is based on a March 7, 2004, incident in a dry wash on the 22,000-acre ranch, when he approached a group of illegal immigrants while carrying a gun and accompanied by a large dog.
Attorneys for the immigrants - five women and 11 men who were trying to cross illegally into the United States - have accused Mr. Barnett of holding the group captive at gunpoint, threatening to turn his dog loose on them and saying he would shoot anyone who tried to escape.
The immigrants are represented at trial by the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), which also charged that Sheriff Dever did nothing to prevent Mr. Barnett from holding their clients at "gunpoint, yelling obscenities at them and kicking one of the women."
In the lawsuit, MALDEF said Mr. Barnett approached the group as the immigrants moved through his property, and that he was carrying a pistol and threatening them in English and Spanish. At one point, it said, Mr. Barnett's dog barked at several of the women and he yelled at them in Spanish, "My dog is hungry and he's hungry for buttocks."
The lawsuit said he then called his wife and two Border Patrol agents arrived at the site. It also said Mr. Barnett acknowledged that he had turned over 12,000 illegal immigrants to the Border Patrol since 1998.
In March, U.S. District Judge John Roll rejected a motion by Mr. Barnett to have the charges dropped, ruling there was sufficient evidence to allow the matter to be presented to a jury. Mr. Barnett's attorney, David Hardy, had argued that illegal immigrants did not have the same rights as U.S. citizens.
Mr. Barnett told The Washington Times in a 2002 interview that he began rounding up illegal immigrants after they started to vandalize his property, northeast of Douglas along Arizona Highway 80. He said the immigrants tore up water pumps, killed calves, destroyed fences and gates, stole trucks and broke into his home.
Some of his cattle died from ingesting the plastic bottles left behind by the immigrants, he said, adding that he installed a faucet on an 8,000-gallon water tank so the immigrants would stop damaging the tank to get water.
Mr. Barnett said some of the ranch´s established immigrant trails were littered with trash 10 inches deep, including human waste, used toilet paper, soiled diapers, cigarette packs, clothes, backpacks, empty 1-gallon water bottles, chewing-gum wrappers and aluminum foil - which supposedly is used to pack the drugs the immigrant smugglers give their "clients" to keep them running.
He said he carried a pistol during his searches for the immigrants and had a rifle in his truck "for protection" against immigrant and drug smugglers, who often are armed.
ASSOCIATED PRESS DEFENDANT: Roger Barnett said he had turned over 12,000 illegal immigrants to the Border Patrol since 1998.

A former Cochise County sheriff´s deputy who later was successful in the towing and propane business, Mr. Barnett spent $30,000 on electronic sensors, which he has hidden along established trails on his ranch. He searches the ranch for illegal immigrants in a pickup truck, dressed in a green shirt and camouflage hat, with his handgun and rifle, high-powered binoculars and a walkie-talkie.
His sprawling ranch became an illegal-immigration highway when the Border Patrol diverted its attention to several border towns in an effort to take control of the established ports of entry. That effort moved the illegal immigrants to the remote areas of the border, including the Cross Rail Ranch.
"This is my land. I´m the victim here," Mr. Barnett said. "When someone´s home and loved ones are in jeopardy and the government seemingly can´t do anything about it, I feel justified in taking matters into my own hands. And I always watch my back."

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Fockin amazing.
There are tresspassing on his propety, not only US soil. My hats off to the guy for turning them in. I wouldve have shot them.
 

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He has caught 12000 of them in the country illegally on his property since 1998. He is a border patrol hero.
 

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This country is inching closer and closer to socialism. You will no longer have property rights, or gun rights. All those on the left think I'm crying that the sky is falling. Well it is. The borders will be relaxed during this administration and anything other than a hunting rifle and a low capacity hand gun will be banned. We are having our rights reduced slowly by the left that believe that if there are no guns no one will be killed and if we open our country to all we will be loved.
This guy just wants laws enforced and his land protected. The lack of help has moved him to more of a vigilante as a last resort.
 

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There are just so many things wrong here. Illegals gaining undeserved rights, destruction of private property during the commission of a crime, all levels of government ignoring the law and their duty to uphold, a Judge without the backbone to stop such a frivolous lawsuit, a special interest group providing legal aid which someway will probably be funded by US taxpayers, and more.......:mad::|err

I love the hell out of my country but am completely ashamed of our government. This is a sickening example of the level of incompetency the govenment has sunk to.
 

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Its a very sad day when trespassing illegals have more rights than a land owner.

If the goverment took away all the free aide/benefits and employers were fined heavily for employing said people they would have zero reason to sneak into this country.

I hate to say it but I understand why they risk there lives and come here. If I lived in that shit hole country (I love vacationing there...lol) and there was 1,000X the opprotunity 50 miles to the North I am sure every single one of us would would make the trek.:)

If there is no reward then the risk isn't worth it:)hand
 

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Its a very sad day when trespassing illegals have more rights than a land owner.

If the goverment took away all the free aide/benefits and employers were fined heavily for employing said people they would have zero reason to sneak into this country.

I hate to say it but I understand why they risk there lives and come here. If I lived in that shit hole country (I love vacationing there...lol) and there was 1,000X the opprotunity 50 miles to the North I am sure every single one of us would would make the trek.:)

If there is no reward then the risk isn't worth it:)hand
The worst thing is, with as many U.S. citizens being laid off, they're still not doing anything about hiring illegal aliens!!!!!
 
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Illegal immigrants = #1 issue America needs to deal with ASAP. See below:

WHY ARE WE BANKRUPT?

Informative, and mind boggling!

You think the war in Iraq is costing us too
much? Read this:

Boy, was I confused. I have been hammered
with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror
that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded
over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader
gets sick of reading them. I also have included the URL's for
verification of all the following facts.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on
welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.

Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on
food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school
lunches for illegal aliens.

Verify at:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on
Medicaid for illegal aliens.

Verify at:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on
primary and secondary school education for children here illegally
and they cannot speak a word of English!

Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for
education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as
anchor babies.

Verify at
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to
incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/
TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates
are illegal aliens.

Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on
illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American
taxpayers.

Verify at:
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed
American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSC RI
PTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States
have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white
non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make
a huge additional crime problem in the US

Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10
MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as
many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of
pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into
the U. S from the Southern border.

Verify at: Homeland Security Report:
http://tinyurl.com/t9sht <http://tinyurl.com/t9sht>;

12. The National policy Institute, estimated
that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and
$230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion
annually over a five year period.'

Verify at:
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45
BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.

Verify at:
http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm>;

14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration:
Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In
The United States .'

Verify at: http: // www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
<http://ww w.drdsk.com/articleshtml>

The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION
DOLLARS A YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING
THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS $338,300,000,000.00 WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY.


Are we THAT stupid? YES, FOR LETTING THOSE IN THE
U.S. CONGRESS GET AWAY WITH LETTING THIS HAPPEN YEAR AFTER YEAR!!!!!
 

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There are just so many things wrong here. Illegals gaining undeserved rights, destruction of private property during the commission of a crime, all levels of government ignoring the law and their duty to uphold, a Judge without the backbone to stop such a frivolous lawsuit, a special interest group providing legal aid which someway will probably be funded by US taxpayers, and more.......:mad::|err

I love the hell out of my country but am completely ashamed of our government. This is a sickening example of the level of incompetency the govenment has sunk to.



X2 Unless we get back to basics and take care of OUR OWN PEOPLE, I am not sure what the future has in store my child...
 

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X2 Unless we get back to basics and take care of OUR OWN PEOPLE, I am not sure what the future has in store my child...
..............................................SLAVERY!!!!! NO rights, just a life of hard work paying for everyone elses cost of living.......nice huh!!!!
 

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I can only hope the jury in this trial finds him not guilty after deliberating for about 1 minute...what a joke.
 

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What's sad is this poor guy will have to spend an incredible amount of money defending himself in this frivolous lawsuit for which he has done nothing wrong. I hope he is vindicated by the jury but you never know how many bleeding liberals are on the jury with some connection to illegal immigration in their bacground.
 

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16 illegals sue Arizona rancher

Claim violation of rights as they crossed his land

Jerry Seper (Contact)
Monday, February 9, 2009

Buzz up!

An Arizona man who has waged a 10-year campaign to stop a flood of illegal immigrants from crossing his property is being sued by 16 Mexican nationals who accuse him of conspiring to violate their civil rights when he stopped them at gunpoint on his ranch on the U.S.-Mexico border.
Roger Barnett, 64, began rounding up illegal immigrants in 1998 and turning them over to the U.S. Border Patrol, he said, after they destroyed his property, killed his calves and broke into his home.
His Cross Rail Ranch near Douglas, Ariz., is known by federal and county law enforcement authorities as "the avenue of choice" for immigrants seeking to enter the United States illegally.
Trial continues Monday in the federal lawsuit, which seeks $32 million in actual and punitive damages for civil rights violations, the infliction of emotional distress and other crimes. Also named are Mr. Barnett's wife, Barbara, his brother, Donald, and Larry Dever, sheriff in Cochise County, Ariz., where the Barnetts live. The civil trial is expected to continue until Friday.
The lawsuit is based on a March 7, 2004, incident in a dry wash on the 22,000-acre ranch, when he approached a group of illegal immigrants while carrying a gun and accompanied by a large dog.
Attorneys for the immigrants - five women and 11 men who were trying to cross illegally into the United States - have accused Mr. Barnett of holding the group captive at gunpoint, threatening to turn his dog loose on them and saying he would shoot anyone who tried to escape.
The immigrants are represented at trial by the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), which also charged that Sheriff Dever did nothing to prevent Mr. Barnett from holding their clients at "gunpoint, yelling obscenities at them and kicking one of the women."
In the lawsuit, MALDEF said Mr. Barnett approached the group as the immigrants moved through his property, and that he was carrying a pistol and threatening them in English and Spanish. At one point, it said, Mr. Barnett's dog barked at several of the women and he yelled at them in Spanish, "My dog is hungry and he's hungry for buttocks."
The lawsuit said he then called his wife and two Border Patrol agents arrived at the site. It also said Mr. Barnett acknowledged that he had turned over 12,000 illegal immigrants to the Border Patrol since 1998.
In March, U.S. District Judge John Roll rejected a motion by Mr. Barnett to have the charges dropped, ruling there was sufficient evidence to allow the matter to be presented to a jury. Mr. Barnett's attorney, David Hardy, had argued that illegal immigrants did not have the same rights as U.S. citizens.
Mr. Barnett told The Washington Times in a 2002 interview that he began rounding up illegal immigrants after they started to vandalize his property, northeast of Douglas along Arizona Highway 80. He said the immigrants tore up water pumps, killed calves, destroyed fences and gates, stole trucks and broke into his home.
Some of his cattle died from ingesting the plastic bottles left behind by the immigrants, he said, adding that he installed a faucet on an 8,000-gallon water tank so the immigrants would stop damaging the tank to get water.
Mr. Barnett said some of the ranch´s established immigrant trails were littered with trash 10 inches deep, including human waste, used toilet paper, soiled diapers, cigarette packs, clothes, backpacks, empty 1-gallon water bottles, chewing-gum wrappers and aluminum foil - which supposedly is used to pack the drugs the immigrant smugglers give their "clients" to keep them running.
He said he carried a pistol during his searches for the immigrants and had a rifle in his truck "for protection" against immigrant and drug smugglers, who often are armed.
ASSOCIATED PRESS DEFENDANT: Roger Barnett said he had turned over 12,000 illegal immigrants to the Border Patrol since 1998.

A former Cochise County sheriff´s deputy who later was successful in the towing and propane business, Mr. Barnett spent $30,000 on electronic sensors, which he has hidden along established trails on his ranch. He searches the ranch for illegal immigrants in a pickup truck, dressed in a green shirt and camouflage hat, with his handgun and rifle, high-powered binoculars and a walkie-talkie.
His sprawling ranch became an illegal-immigration highway when the Border Patrol diverted its attention to several border towns in an effort to take control of the established ports of entry. That effort moved the illegal immigrants to the remote areas of the border, including the Cross Rail Ranch.
"This is my land. I´m the victim here," Mr. Barnett said. "When someone´s home and loved ones are in jeopardy and the government seemingly can´t do anything about it, I feel justified in taking matters into my own hands. And I always watch my back."

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NO!! They have much, much more rights than US citizens.
You're not too far from the truth. My brother was a contract administrator for the (formerly) INS. He said one of his contracts were for medical treatment BEFORE they were sent back. Among the treatment was a full medical workup, dental, and vision. They received better care than my brother received through his insurance. My brother was not covered for dental or vision yet illegal aliens were receiving full dental and vision including new prescriptions!!!! Imagine that!!!!
 
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