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Well,Well,Well,its starting to look like according to the Washington Post among numerous other sources That HRC and the DNC was among those who funded the research for the controversial document.
 

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Well,Well,Well,its starting to look like according to the Washington Post among numerous other sources That HRC and the DNC was among those who funded the research for the controversial document.
GOOD POINT! :wink2:
It appears they may have done so, along with the Republican Party and the FBI. It also appears the Republican Party started it.
It makes one wonder why the Republican Party started looking into Trump and the Russians.
If there isn't something there, doesn't it seem strange that all four organizations would be willing to pay for the information and continued doing so?
 

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I don't think anyone in the establishment wanted Trump.They were afraid if he got in he would kick over the rock they are all hiding under.
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I don't think anyone in the establishment wanted Trump.They were afraid if he got in he would kick over the rock they are all hiding under.
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Yep. Look at the unelectable RINOs coming out disrespecting Trump. Flake and (what's his name) coming out saying they won't run because of Trump... They aren't running because THEY WILL LOSE!!! :thumb:
 

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I don't think anyone in the establishment wanted Trump.They were afraid if he got in he would kick over the rock they are all hiding under.
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In reality, not many voters wanted Trump either. Even on this site, many (on your side) appear offended when it is suggested they supported Trump. They just didn't want Hillary.

Trump is good at destroying or attacking, but he is horrible at having good ideas with solutions. Under Trump, about the only thing he has accomplished is getting a Supreme Court Judge appointed. The truth is, you or I could have recommended any Republican for the job that was qualified and they would have been confirmed after the rule change.

Anyone, as President can hand out Mandates so that's not really being successful. That's just being a Dictator.

Trump appears to have two goals.
They are to Undo anything Obama did and provide huge tax breaks that benefit him and his family. All of his proposals give huge tax breaks for the wealthy with small or no benefits for the less wealthy. What's sad is the less wealthy, typically less educated will get their $200 or 300 reduction and say thank you Mr. trump, while the very wealth will get their $150,000 tax reduction and contribute more to Trump.

In the meantime, the water and air become more polluted causing more illness or respiratory conditions. Along with that, fewer people will have health benefits.
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Yep. Look at the unelectable RINOs coming out disrespecting Trump. Flake and (what's his name) coming out saying they won't run because of Trump... They aren't running because THEY WILL LOSE!!! :thumb:
Jeff Flake retiring,that works for me.
 

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In reality, not many voters wanted Trump either. Even on this site, many (on your side) appear offended when it is suggested they supported Trump. They just didn't want Hillary.

Trump is good at destroying or attacking, but he is horrible at having good ideas with solutions. Under Trump, about the only thing he has accomplished is getting a Supreme Court Judge appointed. The truth is, you or I could have recommended any Republican for the job that was qualified and they would have been confirmed after the rule change.

Anyone, as President can hand out Mandates so that's not really being successful. That's just being a Dictator.

Trump appears to have two goals.
They are to Undo anything Obama did and provide huge tax breaks that benefit him and his family. All of his proposals give huge tax breaks for the wealthy with small or no benefits for the less wealthy. What's sad is the less wealthy, typically less educated will get their $200 or 300 reduction and say thank you Mr. trump, while the very wealth will get their $150,000 tax reduction and contribute more to Trump.

In the meantime, the water and air become more polluted causing more illness or respiratory conditions. Along with that, fewer people will have health benefits.
SAD
Who did you copy and paste that from?
 

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I would urge a review of number of executive orders by President before I'd be too quick to label any President as being a dictator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders
Point noted.
It may be more correct to say, in my opinion he often tries to operate as though he can act as a dictator.
In Trumps case, he appears to view the executive orders as him being successful. His being successful doesn't necessarily equate to being right, good or even correct.

What I don't understand is the fact that he is using executive orders so freely. He criticized Obama for doing it, and now he is doing it far more frequently than Obama.

TRUMP'S FIRST 100 DAYS: How they compare with Obama, Bush, Clinton - Business Insider

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Point noted.
It may be more correct to say, in my opinion he often tries to operate as though he can act as a dictator.
In Trumps case, he appears to view the executive orders as him being successful. His being successful doesn't necessarily equate to being right, good or even correct.

What I don't understand is the fact that he is using executive orders so freely. He criticized Obama for doing it, and now he is doing it far more frequently than Obama.

TRUMP'S FIRST 100 DAYS: How they compare with Obama, Bush, Clinton - Business Insider

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The graph shows me he signed 32 EO's. I'd just like to know how many were undoing Prior EO's, and how many were actually for something new (so to speak)???? The sam goes for the others on the graph...
 

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My point was not comparing him to Obama, but that he's currently about 12th on the list of all Presidents. I'm sure some of what he's done is undoing Obama's. But I would suspect all incoming Presidents of a different party you would see some of that. I think over 4 years he'll likely be further down the list just for that reason, its probably front loaded a bit. My point was more to the fact that if Trump is like a dictator then where does that classify former Presidents that have many times what Trump has by time served. Maybe it would be more appropriate to learn what a dictator actually is and how a dictatorial government operates. For one, you likely wouldn't be reading this discussion on a public forum just for starters.

As far as what Trump does as being good, right, correct, or whatever, the same argument can be and has been made about every President. I haven't seen one that did everything right yet. If you study history at all you will see that we are not unique in this time period as far as disagreement and division within government. This has gone on since the founding of the country we just weren't around to see most of it.
 

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My point was not comparing him to Obama, but that he's currently about 12th on the list of all Presidents. I'm sure some of what he's done is undoing Obama's. But I would suspect all incoming Presidents of a different party you would see some of that. I think over 4 years he'll likely be further down the list just for that reason, its probably front loaded a bit. My point was more to the fact that if Trump is like a dictator then where does that classify former Presidents that have many times what Trump has by time served. Maybe it would be more appropriate to learn what a dictator actually is and how a dictatorial government operates. For one, you likely wouldn't be reading this discussion on a public forum just for starters.

As far as what Trump does as being good, right, correct, or whatever, the same argument can be and has been made about every President. I haven't seen one that did everything right yet. If you study history at all you will see that we are not unique in this time period as far as disagreement and division within government. This has gone on since the founding of the country we just weren't around to see most of it.
Oh, I agree by all means..........What I meant was since a graph was posted......I wanted to see some real break down of the numbers......
 

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My point was not comparing him to Obama, but that he's currently about 12th on the list of all Presidents. I'm sure some of what he's done is undoing Obama's. But I would suspect all incoming Presidents of a different party you would see some of that. I think over 4 years he'll likely be further down the list just for that reason, its probably front loaded a bit. My point was more to the fact that if Trump is like a dictator then where does that classify former Presidents that have many times what Trump has by time served. Maybe it would be more appropriate to learn what a dictator actually is and how a dictatorial government operates. For one, you likely wouldn't be reading this discussion on a public forum just for starters.

As far as what Trump does as being good, right, correct, or whatever, the same argument can be and has been made about every President. I haven't seen one that did everything right yet. If you study history at all you will see that we are not unique in this time period as far as disagreement and division within government. This has gone on since the founding of the country we just weren't around to see most of it.

I agree 100% that none of the Presidents have done everything right, or at least right in every ones opinion.
I'm not sure what you are referring too when you say 12th. As far as Executive decisions, Trump is quite a ways ahead of any other President in his first 100 day or to present. A number of presidents have also reversed executive decisions of their predecessor, but no President has made it more clear or has reversed more than Trump, and by a large margin. Trump has made it a personal goal to erase anything Obama did and some reversals really don't make sense.

There is no doubt there is, and has always been disagreements between parties and how the Government should operate. I don't think there has been this much division in recent history, if ever though. Trump is disliked by most part his own party and it appears he doesn't seem to care if he distances himself even more. No President has ever had a lower overall approval ratings than the current President since polling was started. Since Trump is a white male, there must be other reason his disapproval ratings are so low. Generally, it's because people don't like what he is doing or how it is being done.

Maybe he offends to many people. It is generally thought that in this country that it is acceptable to protest or disagree and express your opinion.(within reason) Mr. Trump seems to have a problem with that concept when someone expresses a negative opinion about him, what he has done or is planning to do or anything else he doesn't like.
 

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Once again, the limp-wristed have derailed the discussion away from the ugly truth which is that these perpetrators have now been caught, RED-HANDED trying to fix another election. Shame on them and I hope the entire truth comes forth so there is no more speculation. Facts are facts and killary is stuck smack dab in the middle of this ugly mess.

Now, as far as what Trump has done so far in office, there have been executive orders, as Mike has indicated, that have been used to undo the damage done by the previous administration but I challenge anyone to show where he has put forth an executive order the likes of obama's first which was to seal his records from public view to conceal the truth about his entire past. Here's a few other things he's accomplished in less than one year in office:
Supreme Court Justice Gorsuch
Opened 1st new coal mine in decades
Travel ban reinstated by Supreme Court
Selling American energy to Poland
Withdrew from TPP
Won 4 out of 4 Special Elections
Fired James Comey
Ended “Catch and release” program
Border crossings down over 70%- lowest in 17 years
Crack down on Sanctuary Cities
Consumer confidence at 16 yr high
$4 Trillion of new wealth in stock market
Bids for border wall are underway
Unemployment at 16 yr low
20% tariff on soft lumbar from Canada
Freed Aya Hijazi from Egypt
Pulled out of Paris Accord
Freed Otto Warmbier from North Korea
Keystone & Dakota Pipeline approved
Iraq/US forces take back Mosul
Mortgage applications for new homes rise to 7yr high
Food stamps at 7yr low 48M to 42M
NATO allies boost spending by 4.3% in 2017
Guantanamo Bay open
Allows Veterans Administration to fire bad employees
Signed Appeals Modernization Act for Veterans
Private healthcare choice for Veterans
Signed Promoting Women Entrepreneurship Act
1 Million jobs created
5-year lobbying ban
Median household income is up more than in 7 yrs
Going to renegotiate NAFTA
Dow up 8% and Nasdaq up 14%
Roll back of Cuba policy
$89 Billion saved in regulation roll backs
Pardoned Joe Arpaio
China agreed to begin American import of beef
Donated his salary
Roll back of Clean Power Act boosting coal mining again
Eliminated 800 regulations
Showed military strength dropping the MOAB
Ended transgender military recruitment
59 missiles dropped in Syria for gassing their people
Nominated 60 Conservative Federal Judges
Executive Order for Religious freedom
Jump started NASA program
$600 M cut from UN Peacekeeping Budget
Home prices up 6%
Signed 52 pieces of legislation
Signed 90 Executive Actions/Orders
Mass deporting of MS13 gangs
Created a commission on voter fraud
Created a commission on Opioid Addiction
Created a commission on human trafficking
Created office for victims of illegal immigrant crimes
Weakened Dodd-Frank by Executive Order
End of DAPA program
Order to stop crime against law enforcement
Promoted businesses to create American jobs
Reduced # of companies moving out of America
Lowest gas prices in 10 years
For every rule created, 2 must be cut
Reviewed all trade agreements to make sure they are America first
Encouraged companies to buy and hire American
Created apprentice program
Highest manufacturing surge in 3 years
Saved $22 million by reducing White House payroll
Denied FBI a new building
Work Requirements for Welfare ended
Temporarily Ended DACA sending back to Congress
Pres. Trump Donated $1 Million to Texas Hurricane victims
A+++ leadership in back to back hurricanes
2017 2nd Quarter GDP up to 3.1%
DOW up 8 quarters in a row (longest streak in 20 years)
800 regulations pulled or suspended
Stock market up 24% since Election
Obamacare Rollback of Contraception Mandate
Rollback of carbon emissions regulation
9% Increase in food exports (Pratt Company)
Executive Order to Sell Insurance Across State Lines
Coleman family held for 5 years released
Withdrew from UNESCO
Decertified the Iran Deal
Stock market hit high of 23,157.60 on Oct. 18, 2017
 

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So, about that dossier that is clearly tied to the best the democrats have.
 
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