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US must be removed from Islamic world: Khamenei

A handout picture released by the official website of Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Picture


Not surprisingly,This guy is moving to consolidate all the current Arab uprisinings..into a total Mideast Muslim uprising against... Guess who?? If this happens things could get seriously ugly really fast. Maybe it's time top pack up and say: "It's been fun, bye-bye" to the various Royal families. No doubt that history is in the making right now..
 

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It is going to get worse and has been tracking in this direction for years, just accelerating now.
 

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May occur? You don't get out much, do you? Read the Bible, would you?
Can you say Armageddon?
 

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The Libs love these guys,especially Jimmy Carter,Hell he gave them a whole country, fortunately the Shia's are a small minority in the Muslim world and the Sunni's are the majority, BUT the tipping point will be the Nukes, I know lefties "But But The Bad Ole USA has them" so the Whack'os should as well just too be fair!
 

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May occur? You don't get out much, do you? Read the Bible, would you?
Can you say Armageddon?

Although I do not believe the total biblical Armageddon scenario. Major bloody war in the Mideast is now looking too possible. That is why I think we Americans need not participate any longer. We have already spent ten years, thousands of lives, and trillions to accomplish very little in the past ten years. Looks like whatever we did accomplish will soon go up in smoke. We don't need to waste anymore time in this hornets nest.
 

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Although I do not believe the total biblical Armageddon scenario. Major bloody war in the Mideast is now looking too possible. That is why I think we Americans need not participate any longer. We have already spent ten years, thousands of lives, and trillions to accomplish very little in the past ten years. Looks like whatever we did accomplish will soon go up in smoke. We don't need to waste anymore time in this hornets nest.
I think itis too late for your scenario to be effective and in the interests of the USA. It would be a disaster for our oil supply needs in the short term. It would take, perhaps, three or four years for us to make up for the shortfall, with domestic oil drilling. The increase in oil prices would send us into a deeper recession, if not a depression. Isreal is our only ally in the region, we can not leave them to fend for themselves, as there would be a nuclear halocaust for sure.
 

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I think itis too late for your scenario to be effective and in the interests of the USA. It would be a disaster for our oil supply needs in the short term. It would take, perhaps, three or four years for us to make up for the shortfall, with domestic oil drilling. The increase in oil prices would send us into a deeper recession, if not a depression. Isreal is our only ally in the region, we can not leave them to fend for themselves, as there would be a nuclear halocaust for sure.
Absolutely.
The last time we did that, the 6 day war happened.

Zombie, do you really believe that a total US withdraw would take us out of the cross hairs??:)sphss:)sphss
 

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Absolutely.
The last time we did that, the 6 day war happened.

Zombie, do you really believe that a total US withdraw would take us out of the cross hairs??:)sphss:)sphss

Yeah I do: A disturbed hornets nest will not bother you if you are away from it.
 

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I think itis too late for your scenario to be effective and in the interests of the USA. It would be a disaster for our oil supply needs in the short term. It would take, perhaps, three or four years for us to make up for the shortfall, with domestic oil drilling. The increase in oil prices would send us into a deeper recession, if not a depression. Isreal is our only ally in the region, we can not leave them to fend for themselves, as there would be a nuclear halocaust for sure.

Jews and Arabs have managed to live around each other for centuries. I believe we have been an aggravating factor in the neighborhood. Without us meddling everywhere selling war equipment to both sides, etc. maybe the Jews and Arabs can have a reasonable peace as they have in the past. If not they can have nuke stand off like we and the USSR did as an an option.
 

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Yeah I do: A disturbed hornets nest will not bother you if you are away from it.
Why the insect analogy? These people are not bugs. They have a plan. That plan is world domination.
Retreating is not an option.
 

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I think that it would be a mistake to pull out now....but we have got our hands stuck in a cookie jar full of...hornets....pulling out would only guarantee that a number of these states would join up and attack Israel, and they would have to use nukes...

We can either go soft...and try to support the people's interest in liberty and freedom(attempt to win the hearts), or the only other answer is to start a holocaust....I would say the most dangerous outcome of this whole mess is if radicals get their hands on nukes, and that can happen.
 

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I think that it would be a mistake to pull out now....but we have got our hands stuck in a cookie jar full of...hornets....pulling out would only guarantee that a number of these states would join up and attack Israel, and they would have to use nukes...

We can either go soft...and try to support the people's interest in liberty and freedom(attempt to win the hearts), or the only other answer is to start a holocaust....I would say the most dangerous outcome of this whole mess is if radicals get their hands on nukes, and that can happen.
I fully agree with you. I don't agree completely that we should be there or that we will ever convert countries to democracies that historically don't want to be, or that we should, but now we are there. I do think we need to step up our ROE, and have for a long time, and accomplish the mission in Afghanistan so we have a chance in hell of leaving without the country plunging back to Taliban control and basically being just like we found it.
 

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Nice pre-1939 mentality.
Why the insect analogy? These people are not bugs. They have a plan. That plan is world domination.
Retreating is not an option.
Agree, you only have to look as far as Europe to see the goal. Europe is in real trouble and will be dominated and controlled by Islamic people within 50 years with the reproduction rate of Islamics vs Europeans... simple math.
 

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Why the insect analogy? These people are not bugs. They have a plan. That plan is world domination.
Retreating is not an option.

Retreating from what?? The reason I doubt this supposed evil plot for world domination, is that the Muslims do not seem interested in converting people. They seem more interested in internal power struggles and defense from foreign invaders. As far as I know no Muslim armies are invading other non-Muslim nations like we are theirs.
I get bugged to join by Jehova witnesses, Mormons, and Evangelicals. Never has any Muslim ever tried to sell me on his religion. If they were seriously after 'World Domination" why do they not currently seem to care about recruiting new members??
 

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Yeah I do: A disturbed hornets nest will not bother you if you are away from it.
You know, I am no war monger, and certainly disagree with many of the reasons we are where we are militarily at this point.
BUT, IMO, you are delusional to think that we would be "out of sight, out of mind" to the Arab world if we stay at home.

We would be like "Troy to the Greeks", and the line would be at our doorstep once again, instead of on their doorstep globally.
 

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Retreating from what?? The reason I doubt this supposed evil plot for world domination, is that the Muslims do not seem interested in converting people. They seem more interested in internal power struggles and defense from foreign invaders. As far as I know no Muslim armies are invading other non-Muslim nations like we are theirs.
I get bugged to join by Jehova witnesses, Mormons, and Evangelicals. Never has any Muslim ever tried to sell me on his religion. If they were seriously after 'World Domination" why do they not currently seem to care about recruiting new members??
Because that is not what they do. It's called genocide, THAT is how they roll.....
 

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Agree, you only have to look as far as Europe to see the goal. Europe is in real trouble and will be dominated and controlled by Islamic people within 50 years with the reproduction rate of Islamics vs Europeans... simple math.

Yes, but the Muslims in these nations did not invade those nations with some evil plot for "world Domination". They came legally invited as cheap labor. Shame on the employers if blame is to be placed. A very similar situation to the cheap Mexican labor in the US.
Money making is what it is all about. Unforeseen cultural consequence are definitely under way.
 

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Converts??

Really, Please tell me where Muslims are currently committing genocide on a large scale to convert non believers??
Bombs, bombs, and then some more bombs. These cowards kill innocent people daily in their quest for world dominance... Why are they using men, women, and children to spread their hatred? Hell, they bomb their own people in an effort to get a few "infidels" on a daily basis, do they not?... They have no desire to convert anyone, their whole deal is to exterminate no believers, period... They will convert peaceful Muslims to non peaceful Muslims in the name of Jihad... If left to their own devices, these people will take over the mideast using cowardly violence, no doubt about that. Nor is there any doubt about their overall plan....IMO
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PS No camel herders were insulted in this post.....
 
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