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Well he is coming for you now and no judgement needed. Do you Libs think maybe it is time to remove him from his job NOW.

Holder: Yep, Obama could kill Americans on U.S. soil | The Ticket - Yahoo! News


President Barack Obama has the legal authority to unleash deadly force—such as drone strikes—against Americans on U.S. soil without first putting them on trial, Attorney General Eric Holder wrote in a letter released Tuesday.But Holder, writing to Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, underlined that Obama “has no intention” of targeting his fellow citizens with unmanned aerial vehicles and would do so only if facing “an extraordinary circumstance.”
Paul had asked the Obama administration on Feb. 20 whether the president "has the power to authorize lethal force, such as a drone strike, against a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil and without trial." On Tuesday, he denounced Holder's response as “frightening” and “an affront to the Constitutional due process rights of all Americans.”
“The U.S. government has not carried out drone strikes in the United States and has no intention of doing so,” Holder assured Paul in the March 4, 2013 letter. The attorney general also underlined that “we reject the use of military force where well-established law enforcement authorities in this country provide the best means for incapacitating a terrorist threat.”
Holder added: “The question you have posed is therefore entirely hypothetical, unlikely to occur, and one we hope no President will ever have to confront."
But "it is possible, I suppose to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States," Holder said. "For example, the President could conceivably have no choice but to authorize the military to use such force if necessary to protect the homeland in the circumstances of a catastrophic attack” like Pearl Harbor or 9/11.
“Were such an emergency to arise, I would examine the particular facts and circumstances before advising the President on the scope of this authority,” said Holder.
Paul, whose office released the letter, denounced the attorney general’s comments.
"The U.S. Attorney General's refusal to rule out the possibility of drone strikes on American citizens and on American soil is more than frightening—it is an affront the Constitutional due process rights of all Americans," the senator said in a statement.
The exchange came as the White House agreed to give Senate Intelligence Committee members access to all of the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel opinions justifying Obama's expanded campaign of targeted assassination of suspected terrorists overseas, including American citizens. Some lawmakers had warned they would try to block top Obama counterterrorism adviser John Brennan's nomination to head the CIA unless they were able to see the memos.
A few hours after the White House agreed to share the information, the committee approved Brennan 12-3, setting the stage for a full Senate vote.
Obama's drone war—relatively popular at home, reviled across the Muslim world—has drawn fresh scrutiny ever since NBC News obtained and published a Justice Department memo that lays out the legal justification behind it. The White House has defended the policy as “necessary,” “ethical” and “wise.” But civil liberties champions have sharply criticized it.
 

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Not even sure what to say about this other than total disgust.
 

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Let's pass a law that says that if a terrorist is a US citizen, he can do whatever he wants...While we're trying to get a court order, he can bomb a mall, crash an Airliner, etc.....This is something yiou guys are really worked up about? If someone is about to really do something bad, I hope to hell that the Prez has the Authority and the balls to try and take him out.

How are you gonna feel when you have a Repcon on the button? Hmmmmm....
 

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Let's pass a law that says that if a terrorist is a US citizen, he can do whatever he wants...While we're trying to get a court order, he can bomb a mall, crash an Airliner, etc.....This is something yiou guys are really worked up about? If someone is about to really do something bad, I hope to hell that the Prez has the Authority and the balls to try and take him out.

How are you gonna feel when you have a Repcon on the button? Hmmmmm....
Dude, you are one brain washed, indoctrinated at a young age socialist anti Constitution mofo. Maybe one day, hopefully sooner than later, you will wake the fuck up. I'm going to start a new thread. I want an honest response as to your beliefs.
 

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Let's pass a law that says that if a terrorist is a US citizen, he can do whatever he wants...While we're trying to get a court order, he can bomb a mall, crash an Airliner, etc.....This is something yiou guys are really worked up about? If someone is about to really do something bad, I hope to hell that the Prez has the Authority and the balls to try and take him out.

How are you gonna feel when you have a Repcon on the button? Hmmmmm....
Dude, you are one brain washed, indoctrinated at a young age socialist anti Constitution mofo. Maybe one day, hopefully sooner than later, you will wake the fuck up. I'm going to start a new thread. I want an honest response as to your beliefs.
Hitler loved sheep like CVX. His parents must be so proud of him. Patriotic to his dictator to a fault.

Why do I get the feeling that is CVX's grandpa front and center? Probably his grandmother "saluting" in the wrong direction.




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Let's pass a law that says that if a terrorist is a US citizen, he can do whatever he wants...While we're trying to get a court order, he can bomb a mall, crash an Airliner, etc.....This is something yiou guys are really worked up about? If someone is about to really do something bad, I hope to hell that the Prez has the Authority and the balls to try and take him out..
So . . . all that constitutional stuff that has been in effect for centuries should be thrown out for your Kenyan hero? Talk about blind faith?

You go far beyond amazing me! I really can't believe there is a sheep so simple-minded as to fall for everything this socialist, anti-American is doing to our once-great nation. Have you ever heard of due process? Holy crap cvx! You are way worse than I thought.
 

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Let's pass a law that says that if a terrorist is a US citizen, he can do whatever he wants...While we're trying to get a court order, he can bomb a mall, crash an Airliner, etc.....This is something yiou guys are really worked up about? If someone is about to really do something bad, I hope to hell that the Prez has the Authority and the balls to try and take him out.

How are you gonna feel when you have a Repcon on the button? Hmmmmm....
Can't water board though right?

Besides, we have laws for arresting those who are plotting these things. Why is it any better to kill them than just go to their house and arrest them?
 

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Can't water board though right?

Besides, we have laws for arresting those who are plotting these things. Why is it any better to kill them than just go to their house and arrest them?
Normally we would Icy, but under sequestration, we need to make drastic cuts, and its i just simply cheaper to have Eric Holder and Obama declare them guilty and kill them. Its just a matter of economics, and we do need to do all we can to preserve CVX's critical job.

screw water boarding. What are they going to tell you. They are guilty? Obama and Holder already made that decision. DUH!
Water boarding and torture=BAD
Murder and assassinations+GOOD



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Let's pass a law that says that if a terrorist is a US citizen, he can do whatever he wants...While we're trying to get a court order, he can bomb a mall, crash an Airliner, etc..... If someone is about to really do something bad, I hope to hell that the Prez has the Authority and the balls to try and take him out.
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If a perp is about to kill someone, the cops can use deadly force, and shoot him. In the abstract I don't see why it would make a difference whether the shot comes from a cop's hand or a drone.
But is that really the issue presented in the memo? I don't know if that's clear.

We recently sent in a robot to go after Horner, it wasn't' a killer robot, but still........


Can't water board though right?

Besides, we have laws for arresting those who are plotting these things. Why is it any better to kill them than just go to their house and arrest them?
I think most of us would be ok with a Jack Bauer exception to torture; clock ticking, terrorist about to set off a bomb. Why would we hesitate to torture him but not hesitate to kill him.

Normally we would Icy, but under sequestration, we need to make drastic cuts, and its i just simply cheaper to have Eric Holder and Obama declare them guilty and kill them. D
Yeah, drones don't get a paycheck. :D
 

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Let's pass a law that says that if a terrorist is a US citizen, he can do whatever he wants...While we're trying to get a court order, he can bomb a mall, crash an Airliner, etc.....This is something yiou guys are really worked up about? If someone is about to really do something bad, I hope to hell that the Prez has the Authority and the balls to try and take him out.

How are you gonna feel when you have a Repcon on the button? Hmmmmm....
You must be delusional because reality if foriegn to you.
 

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You know that these liberal fuckers have railed in the past about Bush. The guy that they love most has done more to control the American population than anyone in America's past. Maybe Russia and Nazi Germany.

With this admission, NDAA, and his posturing for complete takeover of corporations, this guy has made more strides towards socialism than anyone in the past. The unfortunate things is that these idiots love him for it. They want the government to think for them and give them a life rather than having to work hard for it.
 

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Rand Paul is currently in filabuster in the Senate on this issue. He states that it is unconstitutional to kill an American citizen who is a suspected terrorist, if there is no eminent dangerous action that said terrorist is engaged in.

It is about time someone challenges King Hussein Obama and his cohorts of unqualified amdministrators!
 

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Let's pass a law that says that if a terrorist is a US citizen, he can do whatever he wants...While we're trying to get a court order, he can bomb a mall, crash an Airliner, etc.....This is something yiou guys are really worked up about? If someone is about to really do something bad, I hope to hell that the Prez has the Authority and the balls to try and take him out.

How are you gonna feel when you have a Repcon on the button? Hmmmmm....

...........edit.. meh not worth it..
 

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To me it isn't about being an American citizen, it's about being on american soil. Even a fence jumping raghead has the right to be prosecuted by the criminal justice system and then be executed if 'it' comits a crime in country. The very thought that anybody could be executed without a fair trial is dead A.G. wrong.
 

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Well, maybe???

To me it isn't about being an American citizen, it's about being on american soil. Even a fence jumping raghead has the right to be prosecuted by the criminal justice system and then be executed if 'it' comits a crime in country. The very thought that anybody could be executed without a fair trial is dead AT wrong.
I disagree, obama should be executed first thing tomorrow morning... Most, if not all, of our problems would be gone in the opening of a trap door in the floor of the platform he's standing on... Hang the traitor, trial or no trial....
Ray
PS Yes, I know Biden and his shotgun aint much better, but if obama was executed on the white house lawn we would have Biden's undivided attention....
 

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Rand Paul is currently in filabuster in the Senate on this issue. He states that it is unconstitutional to kill an American citizen who is a suspected terrorist, if there is no eminent dangerous action that said terrorist is engaged in.

It is about time someone challenges King Hussein Obama and his cohorts of unqualified amdministrators!
I'm with you Joe! Rand Paul is quickly becoming a constitutional favorite!
 

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To me it isn't about being an American citizen, it's about being on american soil. Even a fence jumping raghead has the right to be prosecuted by the criminal justice system and then be executed if 'it' comits a crime in country. The very thought that anybody could be executed without a fair trial is dead A.G. wrong.
I disagree, obama should be executed first thing tomorrow morning... Most, if not all, of our problems would be gone in the opening of a trap door in the floor of the platform he's standing on... Hang the traitor, trial or no trial....
Ray
PS Yes, I know Biden and his shotgun aint much better, but if obama was executed on the white house lawn we would have Biden's undivided attention....
Opps, typoed that one...i'm a little off the program, i got dog bit the other day.....no, not one of my crew, mine don't bite people, freeking black lab.
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lost in lib logic

The libs cant seem to support capital punishment for someone who has been on death row for most of thei adult life and exhausted all appeals BUT its O.K. to push the button on someone they choose woth no trial? Exactly how can you rationalize that one ? You know you could actually deal with them IF there was any rational thought in anything that comes out of their face.
 
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