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So guys, who's it gonna' be???:notsure: And who has been closest so far? :hmmm: I watched DeClark run a 5.35 @ 151 at Ming, and was also there when The Flying Dutchman ran a 5.41? at Parker. Has a jet even run into the 5.2s in the 1,000' yet? :confused:
 

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That would be SICK !!!! It's gonna happen


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So guys, who's it gonna' be???:notsure: And who has been closest so far? :hmmm: I watched DeClark run a 5.35 @ 151 at Ming, and was also there when The Flying Dutchman ran a 5.41? at Parker. Has a jet even run into the 5.2s in the 1,000' yet? :confused:
You'll see a .20 in March at Ming
 

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I think .20's are coming. Teen's are going to be tough. 0's and .99s well. I guess we will just wait and see. The baddest of the bad jets were out in force last season in the 660 deal. Everyone of the top guys was in the 3.70's in the 660. Miller with his blown deal most likely had a 3.6x in it had he not broke the fuel pump drive. Two guys ran in the low 5.30's at 1000. It will be tough to get there without going over the 145mph limit.

I don't know who the contenders will be this season. Declark sold his boat's to run his hydro. Zach is working on a few new things for 2016. Penbearthy's new boat will be a runner for sure. I've put my nitrous motor on the back burner and am going to run this season with the pro gas engine and try to pick up some more ground there. Willis may come to the table with more power, but his boat weight is a limiting factor. My pick is going to Miller with that lightweight boat and big power to get it done. I'd love to see some of the big hp twin turbo stuff back east come this way. Looking forward to another great season at NJBA :))THumbsUp
 

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Can anyone run those 3.70's -660 or 5.20's-1000 anywhere but ming ? Seems to be some majic water there.:stir:
 

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I think .20's are coming. Teen's are going to be tough. 0's and .99s well. I guess we will just wait and see. The baddest of the bad jets were out in force last season in the 660 deal. Everyone of the top guys was in the 3.70's in the 660. Miller with his blown deal most likely had a 3.6x in it had he not broke the fuel pump drive. Two guys ran in the low 5.30's at 1000. It will be tough to get there without going over the 145mph limit.

I don't know who the contenders will be this season. Declark sold his boat's to run his hydro. Zach is working on a few new things for 2016. Penbearthy's new boat will be a runner for sure. I've put my nitrous motor on the back burner and am going to run this season with the pro gas engine and try to pick up some more ground there. Willis may come to the table with more power, but his boat weight is a limiting factor. My pick is going to Miller with that lightweight boat and big power to get it done. I'd love to see some of the big hp twin turbo stuff back east come this way. Looking forward to another great season at NJBA :))THumbsUp
Bobsnipper is coming out in 2016. New boat weighs 308 lbs!
 

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Can anyone run those 3.70's -660 or 5.20's-1000 anywhere but ming ? Seems to be some majic water there.:stir:
You do realize that the only reason you're hearing these numbers from Ming only is because NJBA is the only sanctioning body on the West Coast that allows the open boats to run all out with just a mph limit (145 for tunnels/flats, 165 for hydros). If you run deeper than the index more than twice in LODBRA (as in running low 5s in the 6.0 class), they will boot you out. Why don't you pull your turbo deal out for one of the NJBA races this year and see if it's magic water or not? I think you'll be in for a big surprise, it's not the water, there's just some quick-ass jets out here on the West Coast!
 

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Can anyone run those 3.70's -660 or 5.20's-1000 anywhere but ming ? Seems to be some majic water there.:stir:
kirkman's run in the 5.30s at dexter with his 499" blown alky engine. did it back to back to back. whenever he get's the big engine done, and can pour some power to it, should be a bit quicker. he's in a capsule, which adds weight. but he can pour in more power because there's no mph restriction. no question it's quicker than the pirate's right now, but he's been working on it for over 15 years. if any boat will get into the 4's without breaking any rules, I think it would be that one.

people could run 3.70s or 5.20s pretty much anywhere, with the obvious few exceptions. no magic water, just the quickest jets.
 

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If you run deeper than the index more than twice in LODBRA (as in running low 5s in the 6.0 class), they will boot you out.
not true. rule book hasn't said that for 5 years. I know a guy just last year that ran a 5.20 something, then a 5.50 something. and he wasn't booted out.
 

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kirkman's run in the 5.30s at dexter with his 499" blown alky engine. did it back to back to back. whenever he get's the big engine done, and can pour some power to it, should be a bit quicker. he's in a capsule, which adds weight. but he can pour in more power because there's no mph restriction. no question it's quicker than the pirate's right now, but he's been working on it for over 15 years. if any boat will get into the 4's without breaking any rules, I think it would be that one.

people could run 3.70s or 5.20s pretty much anywhere, with the obvious few exceptions. no magic water, just the quickest jets.
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not true. rule book hasn't said that for 5 years. I know a guy just last year that ran a 5.20 something, then a 5.50 something. and he wasn't booted out.
I know Bob, you know everything. Ask Joe what the officials told him at the out ramp after he ran a 5.50 something on his first pass in Q/E at Firebird last year......
 

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not true. rule book hasn't said that for 5 years. I know a guy just last year that ran a 5.20 something, then a 5.50 something. and he wasn't booted out.
We ran a 7.61 at 1320ft last year and Henry said that we were out if we did it again, rule book or not. :)sphss
 

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I ran 7.60 in Oregon told me the same thing as Ron one more and we are out...


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Can anyone run those 3.70's -660 or 5.20's-1000 anywhere but ming ? Seems to be some majic water there.:stir:

Come on Hass, you can follow me out. Really is something to watch with these jets run at Ming.

Bring your rig out and turn it loose !!!!!


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You do realize that the only reason you're hearing these numbers from Ming only is because NJBA is the only sanctioning body on the West Coast that allows the open boats to run all out with just a mph limit (145 for tunnels/flats, 165 for hydros). If you run deeper than the index more than twice in LODBRA (as in running low 5s in the 6.0 class), they will boot you out. Why don't you pull your turbo deal out for one of the NJBA races this year and see if it's magic water or not? I think you'll be in for a big surprise, it's not the water, there's just some quick-ass jets out here on the West Coast!
B.S. LMAO the conditions have as much to do with it as ability and NJBA rules. Run early in the year and late in the year when conditions are best.

I wish I could have run there when we had the Eliminator.
 

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Parker early in the year is a another place that is fast. Its the fresh constantly circulating water and cold air temps. In places where the water gets stagnant like Firebird and turns to soup is an example of a slow track. Everyone I talk to slows down there, jets, hydros, vdrives you name it.
 

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ET and Speed limits 2016

I ran 7.60 in Oregon told me the same thing as Ron one more and we are out...
January 25, 2016

Hello People

Let me see if I got this right, the race boating community is getting faster and quicker, while the governing bodies are refusing to allow the quickness and speeds.

Seems to me that the racing community is getting a lot smaller from this type of reasoning, racers are making their equipment more safe to travel at those ET’s and the governing community needs to recognize these safety changes and lift the et and speed quotas.
The insuring community should also look at these changes in design and come to better reasonable rates to insure events/venues for their clients.
I don’t like using this person as the cornerstone, but the boat had this wobble and buck that looked real UN safe, then the NJBA set speed limits on the jets and flats and hydro’s.
Since the speed limits, the boat owner and jet specialist have solved that problem.
With that said, I think the governing should raise the limits to correspond with the equipment that has demonstrated safe running at these higher speed / ET limits :)Unsure

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I know Bob, you know everything. Ask Joe what the officials told him at the out ramp after he ran a 5.50 something on his first pass in Q/E at Firebird last year......
instead of asking people, why not try reading the rule book? obviously, I know more about the rules than you. the rule book does not say that any more. and it was changed for a reason. it is discretionary. that said, there have been numerous examples of individuals blowing past the limit on multiple occasions on a weekend. the rule was not changed just so people could abuse it.

several years ago, I know of people booted out FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON over the "second offense" (which is what the rule book stipulated at the time). the second offense didn't have to occur on the same weekend. one warning - per season. alan zeller was one of them. that is a harsh penalty. hence the rule change. then, last year, someone running QE goes out and blows off a 5.20. gets warned, and comes back with a 5.50. and was in competition on sunday. and he wasn't the only person to do something similar over the past 5 years. it would not surprise me that sanctioning bodies are tired of the abuse. it is discretionary.

now, njba runs certain classes that allow limits to be pushed. which is not the same as running QE or PE. but tell me Dale, is there any penalty at all if someone blows over the speed limit twice during a weekend? maybe willis could explain it to you. just make excuses and it's ok? there is absolutely no difference between the lodbrs rules and the njba rules, from the perspective of when you are warned, and when you are dq'd. the only difference is et vs speed. but it just doesn't matter which one it is, because people want to blow those speed, or et, limits away.
 

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Come on Hass, you can follow me out. Really is something to watch with these jets run at Ming.

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Nahhh, My junk is way to heavy/slow. I'm just gonna invite some of these guys to come out to the King of the Hill Event in Batesville AR this yr and see if they can lay down a few of those 3.70's. I am going to make a prediction though, I bet that they will be off that number by a margin.
From the rumors I'm hearing, the money should be large enough to make it worth thier trip if they can run those #'s out here.
 
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