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Obama knows that his tax hike on everyone over $250K will only fund the government for only a week or so. He doesn't want a deal. He knows that his legacy is on the line as to unbalanced budgets and high unemployment and a stagnant economy. If he makes the deal so hard to agree to, he knows that everyone's taxes will go up, he'll have more money to play with to advance his march towards socialistic capitalism, and the republicans will take the blame for higher taxes, higher unemployment, and a recession that we're heading towards anyways due to an over regulating government and Obamacare. He'll be able to blame his incompetence on others again.
 

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Obama knows that his tax hike on everyone over $250K will only fund the government for only a week or so. He doesn't want a deal. He knows that his legacy is on the line as to unbalanced budgets and high unemployment and a stagnant economy. If he makes the deal so hard to agree to, he knows that everyone's taxes will go up, he'll have more money to play with to advance his march towards socialistic capitalism, and the republicans will take the blame for higher taxes, higher unemployment, and a recession that we're heading towards anyways due to an over regulating government and Obamacare. He'll be able to blame his incompetence on others again.



You Midwest Peeps are way to logical!!!:))THumbsUp
 

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Going down???

I say let all the BUSH era tax cuts expire, all of them.... When the 47-50% of the populace that are now paying ZERO in federal taxes realize their paycheck will have federal withholding taken out they may very well storm the Whitehouse in a full fledged riot.... ..... obama, "A man without honor".....
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I'm tempted to let it ride. Esp. v. giving away tax hike for the promise of spending cuts 10yrs away. Do O's supporters not get that he's gone in 4 yrs? Sigh.
Anyway, I know peeps are worried the Rs will get blamed. The opposite is also possible, and I would love to see O writhing in public, begging to get the "Bush" tax cuts back cuz they help the econ. and increase revenue.
 

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I have to laugh that no one notices ZERO was not concerned about the fiscal Cliff when running for re election and now it he is freaking out and grabbing at straws. Let it go and fall in his lap. I am tired of the Washing B.S.
 

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This happens to be the biggest economic problem our nation has ever faced, to date and he's fiddling while Rome burns:

The Obama family is taking a 3 week, 4 million dollar vacation to Hawaii while the rest of us worry about the fiscal cliff. Is anyone else as outraged as we are????? While he's asking us all to share the "wealth", he's taking a major vacation on our dime!!! Oh, the irony!!!!!


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I'm in Utah Chief. Southwest at best. BTW I'm a transplant from So Cal. :happy:
On a lake, in Utah could be anywhere, dude. Sometimes it means Nebraska, sometimes it's Florida.:stir::happy:
 

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In this case it means in freakin Utah!!! :happy:
My apologies. I send greetings from.... Puerto Rico?? Or is it Alaska?:)Unsure
I would say Calif. but that might get too confusing. :happy:
 

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This happens to be the biggest economic problem our nation has ever faced, to date and he's fiddling while Rome burns:....
Truth is: He just as well go on a 3 week vacation, as he hasn't a clue what to do. All he can do is run his mouth campaign style, spurting his rhetoric and boosting senseless gibberish the Left holds find so mesmerizing. He has NEVER offered any resemblance as a Leader nor will he EVER, he is simply a professional campaigner. This "fiddling" should be of no surprise. Even the Dems are scratching their heads as O is offering NOTHING in regards to the "cliff". He does not have the fortitude or skills to negotiate with any members of the House and Senate and he hasn't the experience or a clue as where to begin. It really is sad. The POS will continue to "fiddle" then he will blame the "right" for obstructing his "balance approach" as the GOP are nothing more than greedy rich bastards.

Just like his first term, he made multiple pledges regarding his "promises of change", then simply becomes derelict in his duties, leave politics to his cronies like Reid and Pelosi, and goes about his merry way by maintaining his reputation as the nation's "eye candy". Isn't he Pretty?
 

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This happens to be the biggest economic problem our nation has ever faced, to date and he's fiddling while Rome burns:

The Obama family is taking a 3 week, 4 million dollar vacation to Hawaii while the rest of us worry about the fiscal cliff. Is anyone else as outraged as we are????? While he's asking us all to share the "wealth", he's taking a major vacation on our dime!!! Oh, the irony!!!!!


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Least we forget he became a multi-millionaire while serving as President. $10,000,000bama.
 

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My apologies. I send greetings from.... Puerto Rico?? Or is it Alaska?:)Unsure
I would say Calif. but that might get too confusing. :happy:
hil:)hil:)

I kind of figured that most people knew that Utah was considered a southwest state and not midwest. But then my wife will tell you that I am geographically challenged anyways. I can get you there, but I may not know where it is on the map.

Spent most of my life in So Cal, lived in Seattle for a while, back to So Cal and then here for the last 11 years. I go where I'm told I'm needed. If that's the midwest, so be it. I'll go kicking and screaming back to So Cal.
 

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Least we forget he became a multi-millionaire while serving as President. $10,000,000bama.
Isn't that funny how that worked. As a senator he needed help qualifying for a home loan to the point that he needed that crook Tony Rezko to work a deal for him. Once he became president he makes millions. Sounds a little fishy to me!! Just like all the other crooks in congress who have made million while in office.
 

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Pretty much exactly what Rush said today on his show.


Obama knows that his tax hike on everyone over $250K will only fund the government for only a week or so. He doesn't want a deal. He knows that his legacy is on the line as to unbalanced budgets and high unemployment and a stagnant economy. If he makes the deal so hard to agree to, he knows that everyone's taxes will go up, he'll have more money to play with to advance his march towards socialistic capitalism, and the republicans will take the blame for higher taxes, higher unemployment, and a recession that we're heading towards anyways due to an over regulating government and Obamacare. He'll be able to blame his incompetence on others again.
 

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Obama knows that his tax hike on everyone over $250K will only fund the government for only a week or so. He doesn't want a deal. He knows that his legacy is on the line as to unbalanced budgets and high unemployment and a stagnant economy. If he makes the deal so hard to agree to, he knows that everyone's taxes will go up, he'll have more money to play with to advance his march towards socialistic capitalism, and the republicans will take the blame for higher taxes, higher unemployment, and a recession that we're heading towards anyways due to an over regulating government and Obamacare. He'll be able to blame his incompetence on others again.

I concur. O and the cast of clown want to go over the cliff and make it look like it was all the Reps fault. This will cause another recession (did we ever get out of it yet anyways) which in turn will result in QE 3, 4, 5. etc...spend spend spend...more people out of work more people totally dependent on the government for everything. Folks we have Hitler, Stallin, Hussein, etc... all rolled into one here leading us to the imminent destruction of OUR Country as we know it. The genocide being committed is the death of the middle class and small business sector. There is no doubt about the socialist marxist agenda taking place before our eyes.
 

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Fact is the Dems will blame the Reps for whatever happens. The Reps said they would be willing to put Revenue on the table in return for spending cuts. All O has offered is raising taxes oon the rich, no cuts whatsoever with exception of a so called promise that he will do it next year. And increased spending. Absolutely amazing. I hope the Reps don't give in. No spending cuts in the bill. NO BILL.
 

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Like I've said before, I think the republicans just need to tell the public that in order to keep the middle class from getting screwed, they're going to sign on to the democrats plan despite the fact that they know it won't work. Once the lay off notices hit, the economy tanks, and the shit hits the fan, they can come out and say I told you so. There will be a red sweep in congress.
If they do what's right, there will be no deal, we'll hit an economic wall, and the democrats and the media will point the finger at the republicans and there will be a blue sweep in congress which will lead to a complete meltdown of the US economy.
 

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Like I've said before, I think the republicans just need to tell the public that in order to keep the middle class from getting screwed, they're going to sign on to the democrats plan despite the fact that they know it won't work. Once the lay off notices hit, the economy tanks, and the shit hits the fan, they can come out and say I told you so. There will be a red sweep in congress.
If they do what's right, there will be no deal, we'll hit an economic wall, and the democrats and the media will point the finger at the republicans and there will be a blue sweep in congress which will lead to a complete meltdown of the US economy.
You realize part of O's plan he had geitner present includes giving him (O) absolute control to raise the debt limit. We the middle class is being killed off for sure but this is complete suicide taking the authority away from congress and giving it to O. I have no problem going over the cliff and seeing a depression kick in under O's watch for the second time. Maybe some of the O supporter idiots will wake up then, who knows. I think it could have the same affect you describe with a red sweep but throwing up the white flag and just giving them everything is just plain suicide for the country. Keep him a sitting lame duck achieving next to nothing the next 4 years and I call that a win.

Bottom line, anything negative that happens will be pushed off onto the reps and and if anything positive develops (not a chance in my opinion) it will be the dems trying to take the praise. We are F'd either way this goes down for decades to come.
 
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