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I saw it on that old boat fourm, but can anyone tell me the easy way to turn my boat over for paint. pics would be nice, if you got them. thanks, steve.
 

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This is the method I used,You can also use two engine hoists,front and rear. Also You can use a strap ,around the pump bowl,if the pump is installed.



 

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Damn Brad, you guys made that look easy. I did mine similar to Hal with a engine hoist on the front boweye and a cable hoist on the back up to a beam in the garage. I got where I was flipping it myself by just doing a little rigging with some rope on the front. Still scary though......

Hey Hal, welcome to the board. How's your project coming?......john
 

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Damn Brad, you guys made that look easy. I did mine similar to Hal with a engine hoist on the front boweye and a cable hoist on the back up to a beam in the garage. I got where I was flipping it myself by just doing a little rigging with some rope on the front. Still scary though......

Hey Hal, welcome to the board. How's your project coming?......john
You wouldn't be man handling my 900 lb Kachina that easily. That sumbitch was way heavy. As soon as the two guys on the left got it off the balance point to lower it down...........my boat would've finished the flip by itself in a big hurry and somebody probably would've got hurt. Sounds like I'm being critical, but be aware some of these hulls (mine in particular) are real heavy.
 

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You wouldn't be man handling my 900 lb Kachina that easily. That sumbitch was way heavy. As soon as the two guys on the left got it off the balance point to lower it down...........my boat would've finished the flip by itself in a big hurry and somebody probably would've got hurt. Sounds like I'm being critical, but be aware some of these hulls (mine in particular) are real heavy.
Yup, you're probably right. I flipped this thing back and forth a number of times and I had it rigged the same way with 3 people. It wasnt till the last few times that I did it alone. I didnt realize your Kachina was that heavy! That new boat will fly with your motor....
 

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Yup, you're probably right. I flipped this thing back and forth a number of times and I had it rigged the same way with 3 people. It wasnt till the last few times that I did it alone. I didnt realize your Kachina was that heavy! That new boat will fly with your motor....
It was a good boat, but unbelievably heavy. I was just out doing some work on the new boat and did some checking around by pushing on different areas. I can flex the gullwing real easy and I couldn't flex any part of the Kachina even the deck. You could literally stand four adults on the deck of that boat and it wouldn't move.

It's funny but all that time I owned it I had no idea it was so heavy and solid. I'm pretty amazed that it ran the speeds that it did.

It was an 800 lb hull from the mold. Then throw in the pump and the rest of the hardware. It's an easy 900 lbs.
All the wood in the boat is 3/4" resin coated plywood sides/gunnels, deck, transom etc. Not to mention a real heavy layup schedule with the glass.

Very anxious for the "big swap", but at the same time forcing myself to take my time.
 

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thanks for all the feedback, I was going to use two engine hoists, but am vary leary of the bow eye and how much waight it can take. Thanks steve.
 

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I used old truck tires and furniture dollies + 3 people. I don't trust the bow eye for a hoist. Rolled it over on the tires (on top of the dollies) from the trailer and rolled it into the garage for grinding and Gel coat. then you can move it around easily on the casters. worked great and I only had to buy 1 pizza, and 3 cases of beer...lol:D:D...OK had to buy another pizza and 3 more cases of beer to put it back on the trailer.:D:D
 

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I don't trust the bow eye for a hoist.
As long as the bow eye is tight to the hull it's plenty strong. I used the two engine hoist method five times on the same boat (I'm embarassed to say and please don't ask why I had to flip it five times) and the bow eye never even loosened up.

Keep in mind that was flipping the Kachina and no doubt one of the heavier 18 foot hulls.

The idea of using the hoists was so that once you got the hull to the balance point, you could ease it past and over without endangering anyone. It's more of a failsafe deal than anything else.
 

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yeah, mine's a 19 foot hawiian. I dont know the weight, but it seems to be pretty heavy, heavier then I thought it would be. just lifting it from the side while on the trailer. thanks again steve.
 

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As long as the bow eye is tight to the hull it's plenty strong. I used the two engine hoist method five times on the same boat (I'm embarassed to say and please don't ask why I had to flip it five times) and the bow eye never even loosened up.

Keep in mind that was flipping the Kachina and no doubt one of the heavier 18 foot hulls.

The idea of using the hoists was so that once you got the hull to the balance point, you could ease it past and over without endangering anyone. It's more of a failsafe deal than anything else.
The one I am talking about is my Sundance. 1400 lb hull is what I weighed it at the public scale empty. The reason I used tires is I didn't feel like taking the rack & pinion out along with the steering wheel. I needed ground clearance for the wheel so I shimmed it with tires...lol:)bulb.

If it makes you feel any better, it took me 2 tries to get the bottom right. First time I had lots of porpoising, had to add a bit back to the bottom. The guy I sold it to goes to CFW alot. It's brown and gold and has a polished pump with "Hot Shock-A-Lot" painted on the bubble deck if he didn't change it...Long droop, gbowl r-intake, stretched 8 inches, lot's of work...lol. I miss that boat.

The one I have now only took two of us to get it back on the trailer, and that's only because I couldn't wrap my arms around a 6' beam. JEThro could though...:)devil That one weigh's 420 lbs. though. The furniture dollies work great, just wheel it around where ever you want it.

Hey Squirtcha, you gonna be at Hogan???
 

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The one I am talking about is my Sundance.
1400 lb hull is what I weighed it at the public scale empty. The reason
I used tires is I didn't feel like taking the rack & pinion out along with
the steering wheel. I needed ground clearance for the wheel so I shimmed
it with tires...lol:)bulb.
Holy crap and I thought mine was heavy!
If it makes you feel any better, it took me 2 tries to get the bottom
right. First time I had lots of porpoising, had to add a bit back to the
bottom. The guy I sold it to goes to CFW alot. It's brown and gold
and has a polished pump with "Hot Shock-A-Lot" painted on the bubble
deck if he didn't change it...Long droop, gbowl r-intake, stretched 8
inches, lot's of work...lol. I miss that boat.
I learned one thing on mine. Blueprint the center section and make it
as straight as you want, but don't mess with the areas outboard. I got
my ride back by adding cav plates to the back, but I wish I'd have left
it alone. Fact is, had it not gotten glass damage in that area I'd have
never touched that section.

The one I have now only took two of us to
get it back on the trailer, and that's only because I couldn't wrap my
arms around a 6' beam. JEThro could though...:)devil That one weigh's
420 lbs. though. The furniture dollies work great, just wheel it around where ever you want it.


Hey Squirtcha, you gonna be at Hogan???
Not likely to be at Hogan. That's a 12 hour drive for me.
 

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Hey John:
Yea I have been on this board for a while.I have just been lurking about.
I have'nt done any thing all winter. been Skiing and snowboarding too much,But all that is about to end and I am ready for paint.I am just waiting on some good weather ,to spray the bottom,so I can flip it back over for good.
I have been keeping up with You'rs.You'r boat is comming along nicely.Look's awesome......Hal
 
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