[sangerfan76]

I have a 77 spectra 20 with a pump on the back ( i wish it was a prop)but anyway. 460 ford stock rebuilt by harmin marine about 5 years ago. not much use since. i have been scratchin every piece of my but trying to get the limping out of it and i did it all backwards. 1st bought new carb . other wouldnt idle fre crap. pulled out the stinger ignition and bought new msd dist and 6a box. new taylor wires. today started som bich still limps. so I pulled covers off and checked valves. they are bolted. did each cylinder to make sure they are down proper at 22lb. did a compression check and holy shit. pass side cylnder 1 80 lb , 2 95 lb , 3 135 lb , 4 125 lb. on driver side 5 0lb , 6 0lb , 7 80lb 8 110lb . leak down test was baaad 95% . i hear air out the exhaust on all cylinders. besides pulling the engine . where do i start. i noticed head nubers are dv39e.

 

[sangermike]

call lakesonly. ill pm his number to you

 

[058]

I have a 77 spectra 20 with a pump on the back ( i wish it was a prop)but anyway. 460 ford stock rebuilt by harmin marine about 5 years ago. not much use since. i have been scratchin every piece of my but trying to get the limping out of it and i did it all backwards. 1st bought new carb . other wouldnt idle fre crap. pulled out the stinger ignition and bought new msd dist and 6a box. new taylor wires. today started som bich still limps. so I pulled covers off and checked valves. they are bolted. did each cylinder to make sure they are down proper at 22lb. did a compression check and holy shit. pass side cylnder 1 80 lb , 2 95 lb , 3 135 lb , 4 125 lb. on driver side 5 0lb , 6 0lb , 7 80lb 8 110lb . leak down test was baaad 95% . i hear air out the exhaust on all cylinders. besides pulling the engine . where do i start. i noticed head nubers are dv39e.

I sorta know my way around a 460, built a few The heads you have should read D3VE-A2A, those are the most common head on a 460. From your compression test it appears you have a blown head gasket between cyls 5 and 6 and with the leakage into the exhaust you might have some bent or burnt valves, in any case the heads need to come off and gone thru. With a blown head gasket I highly recommend having the heads surfaced to go along with a good valve job.

 

[sangerfan76]

spoke with paul with hyflo dynamics and it sounds like the exhaust valves are burnt. i understand these are emission control heads and low compression.

 

[dmontzsta]

LakesOnly and 058 are close to god like when it comes to Fords.

 

[Fiat48]

Amen to that.

 

[Uncle Dave]

2112 seems to know Fords

If youd like more input I can summon him as well


Uncle dave

 

[sangerfan76]

got engine out tonight. going to finish tearing down tommarrow. paul will get me some new heads and port them. i think ill change cam while its out since we didnt know what was in it.

 

[BOLT NAZI]

LakesOnly and 058 are close to god like when it comes to Fords.

Why did they get yours to run.

 

[sangerfan76]

wow frustrated . im getting to the point of making a boat anker out of this ford and dropping my chevy in it. parts seem so frickin hard to locate. i have several sets of chevy heads on the shelf and so does half the world why fords so hard. if i cant get the parts be next weekend the chevys going in and the fords going to the bottom of lake hogan carb to pan

 

[dmontzsta]

Why did they get yours to run.

It is Castillo and LakesOnly is going to make sure that ends this month, that is all I am going to say.

 

[sangerfan76]

, paul (lakesonly) seems to know his stuff on fords. nice guy to talk to . its frustrating thats all as you all know. but like i said in the begining. i know its a jet but i know in this v drive section ill get a good honest answer and from awsome people always willing to help in anyway. i have the emissions heads and i believe high flow dynamics had a set ready . this is mamas boat and she dont understand really why it runs but i say its broken. thank you all for the help

 

[058]

wow frustrated . im getting to the point of making a boat anker out of this ford and dropping my chevy in it. parts seem so frickin hard to locate. i have several sets of chevy heads on the shelf and so does half the world why fords so hard. if i cant get the parts be next weekend the chevys going in and the fords going to the bottom of lake hogan carb to pan

Ford parts hard to get? Where are you looking? You can't shop for Ford parts at your neighborhood Wallmart like you can with Chevys. BTW, Chevy parts are in the Tonka section And the reason "Half the world" has Chevy parts is because they need them.

 

[sangerfan76]

dont get me wrong the info i have been able to find they have potential to make huge hp. i think it it i dont understant them yet. hell if i can find a owens 2 speed bell housing for a ford id swap it for the chevy and put one in the hydro.

 

[058]

dont get me wrong the info i have been able to find they have potential to make huge hp. i think it it i dont understant them yet. hell if i can find a owens 2 speed bell housing for a ford id swap it for the chevy and put one in the hydro.

Now Yer talkin' bulb....If this is wifey's boat why not just pull the heads and have a good machine shop freshen them up. Although I don't like to try and diagnose problems with a keyboard I would bet you could put a fresh set of heads on the engine and it would cure 99% of the problems. At least it might get you thru the summer and pacify wifey then come winter build a fresh engine, maybe a nice lil' stroker, say a 521 or a 533. One of those should put a hem in her dress. All you need to do is ask and there are plenty of people here that can help you.

 

[sangerfan76]

ok heads are off and here is what i found. 1 it was nice not to hold a head that is half the weight of the block. all exhause valves are tan some i noticed are sitting deep in the seat and the exhaust port pain it burnt off. it must have been detonating inside and for a long time prior to me having it. ii also noticed thich carbon build up on number 6 hole. (that one had zero compression. other than that i see no visible cracks and dont see head gasket problems. i noticed the cylinder walls are smooooth and shiny. i dont see cross hatches. here are pics.

 

[LakesOnly]

Sangerfan76,

I received your most recent email. My buidling had a very small fire (NOT our unit) which caused the entire buidling to be evacuated and all electrical power cut. Therefore, please call me and I can update you....or I'll write back to you within 36 hours.

Ported heads will be completed this early next week...if you are still interested.

You and I are about two hours apart and so Ford parts should be no problem whatsoever. We have perhaps 45 cylinder blocks in stock, hundreds of heads, dozens of crankshafts (OEM, stroked, forged), aftermarket parts such as stainless valves, springs, all types of forged piston sets, OEM and aftermarket rods, etc. That's just us and there are parts everywhere else too. Thing is, when you live in a chevy world and magazine advertising is literally $10,000 for a full page ad, you will advtertise the chevy parts.....but please also understand that Summit, Jegs, etc, they all have as many Ford 385 Parts parts as you may ever need, as offered from Ford Racing, SCAT, Eagle, TFS, Edelbrock, ARP, Blue Thunder, Canton, Milodon, Jesel, Crower, etc.

The pistons in your engine are Speed Pro L2404's. They have a 22cc dish and with your D3VE heads they manage about 8:1 compression ratio. That compression ratio does not take into account the most sunken exhaust valves I have ever seen in my ENTIRE life (remember we have hundreds of heads PLUS those that have passed through our hands, and I ain't never seen valves so sunk...it's a wonder your engine runs at all )eek) ). Switching to the D0VE heads will bring you to ~9.5:1 c/r (more if the block has been zero-decked). With the c/r increase and the portwork (and valves that seal ) your engine performance will display a night-and-day improvement, still run on pump gas, please you, and probably make the wife hold onto the grabrail tightly. Staying with replacement D3VE heads that have been ported will more than restore the OEM engine's performance, retain your existing vavle train, and run turn-key pretty much forever.

TTYL,

LO

 

[LakesOnly]

...if i can find a owens 2 speed bell housing for a ford id swap it for the chevy and put one in the hydro.

Scott Owens makes them, I've got one, and Joe Shelfo stocks them....Joe is about 90 minutes from you. bulb

LO

 

[LakesOnly]

sangerfan76, your cylinder heads are completed. Give me a call and we'll arrange getting them to you.



LO

 

[yep]

devildevil

Ford parts hard to get? Where are you looking? You can't shop for Ford parts at your neighborhood Wallmart like you can with Chevys. BTW, Chevy parts are in the Tonka section And the reason "Half the world" has Chevy parts is because they need them.

hail the lord and come on down at last i have found another ford man with the same attitude as medevil