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Many people of this nation are tired of the BS. Why not put another party such as Libertarian, or Independant in the presidential position? Just a thought. We are new to watching the political arena. Our family is mixed with Dem and Repub. Tired of hearing the recent arguments at the family BBQ. Anyone else have this problem in their familes?

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I doubt a third party will get 3% of the vote. The Socialist and Libertarian parties have never drawn enough support to elect a president and the Tea Party has pretty much disintegrated.

We don't talk politics in my family. My bil hates Obama like only a rabid racist can hate him.
 

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I doubt a third party will get 3% of the vote. The Socialist and Libertarian parties have never drawn enough support to elect a president and the Tea Party has pretty much disintegrated.

We don't talk politics in my family. My bil hates Obama like only a rabid racist can hate him.
Is your BIL really a rabid racist? Or does he just hate O???

Seems you have been throwing that word around lately.

Although the socialist party will probably never field a president...there does sit a socialist in the oval office as we speak.
 

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Many people of this nation are tired of the BS. Why not put another party such as Libertarian, or Independant in the presidential position? Just a thought. We are new to watching the political arena. Our family is mixed with Dem and Repub. Tired of hearing the recent arguments at the family BBQ. Anyone else have this problem in their familes?

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Well, it's not happening this year. But it could happen - when a 3rd party puts up a candidate with a platform that can get 40% of the vote. Til then, any person or idea that comes along simply gets co-opted (then perverted) by the Big 2.
Tell your family to pick a guy they like, pick a party and run him for office. Make the party what you want it to be.
 

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Which side will the 47 percenters stay on? Third party, see Ross Perot. Vote splitter.

I doubt a third party will get 3% of the vote. The Socialist and Libertarian parties have never drawn enough support to elect a president and the Tea Party has pretty much disintegrated.

We don't talk politics in my family. My bil hates Obama like only a rabid racist can hate him.
I hate Owebama too, but not because he is black. That's absurd as your statement. I hate him for what he, his admin, and policies have done to this country. He is changing it alright.... into the next Greece. You cannot spend your way out of a recession. See: Japan.

I refuse to discuss politics in my family too. My sister is a rabid liberal and cannot hold a conversation about policies without becoming an enraged screaming monster. I rarely do with my brother as he is a libertarian. And he thinks I am a rightie... which I view myself as a conservative. Smaller government, less programs, more self reliance, and fix what is broken. And I am not talking about ear marks and throwing money to fix a problem. I am talking boarder control, deporting illegals, more tariffs on imports, term limits, tort reform, concealed carry reciprocity, real welfare reform, doing away with all subsidies, getting the Fed under control, ETC.!

Tell me, Charley, how many of these are you for? :confused:
 

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People in my family that are not conservative, very few of them are not, know better to bring up politics around me. I just beat them up with logic. You cant argue with Logic. I feel it is out duty as conservatives to enlighten the others whom are not intelligent enough to think logically lol :happy:
 

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Im registered as an independent because I want to be able to vote for the guy with the best plan.

Technically I'm a libertarian (think John Stossel though - not Ayn Rand) and I believe our 2 party system is broken.

I have strayed away.

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Im registered as an independent because I want to be able to vote for the guy with the best plan.

Technically I'm a libertarian (think John Stossel though - not Ayn Rand) and I believe our 2 party system is broken.

I have strayed away.

Uncle Dave
Uncle Dave, the cat that strayed... :happy:
 

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Pretty sure I have more hatered for Ozero than any POTUS in my life time. Not all that sure I hated any POTUS prior to Ozero. I know I didn't have the total distaste and disgust for people that back the other guy like I do for Ozero worshippers. Not even close. I may have thought they were uniformed ignorant fools. Same as most with Ozero worshippers. Its the ones that swing from his nuts because of his socialist/communist/marxist anti american beliefs and policies. Backing the asshole because you are an uneducated sheep is one thing, but to back him KNOWING he is a communist and agreeing with it like CVX, R&J, ram, shue and others here is in my opinion, as delibrately unAmerican as it gets. I don't see all Ozero backers the same. Its the DEMAND for stuff at the expense of others that chafs my ass big time. Asswipes like CVX and R&J will say NO, I don't want anything from the rich. THATS TOTAL BULLSHIT!! You have whined on these boards like little spoiled school girls and you know full well you think you are entitled to more income for you useless job, as well as more bennies. Some of you are down right treasonous bastards in my eyes.
I don't remember ever thinking that about any opponent's backers before. Ozero is the king if division. The backers make it point to make them selves hated by conservatives. Right ram? CVX? R&J? You make it a point to inform us of your totally unjustified DEMANDS!

As for the racism, I truely do wish Obama was white. I am 100% convinced if he was white, he would have already been impeached, jailed, tried, and possibly excuted for crimes against the people and the constitution of the United States of America. I have no doubt, his color is saving his ass.



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As for the racism, I truely do wish Obama was white. I am 100% convinced if he was white, he would have already been impeached, jailed, tried, and possibly excuted for crimes against the people and the constitution of the United States of America. I have no doubt, his color is saving his ass.
If this was true, he may have never been elected.
 

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Pretty sure I have more hatered for Ozero than any POTUS in my life time. Not all that sure I hated any POTUS prior to Ozero. I know I didn't have the total distaste and disgust for people that back the other guy like I do for Ozero worshippers. Not even close. I may have thought they were uniformed ignorant fools. Same as most with Ozero worshippers. Its the ones that swing from his nuts because of his socialist/communist/marxist anti american beliefs and policies. Backing the asshole because you are an uneducated sheep is one thing, but to back him KNOWING he is a communist and agreeing with it like CVX, R&J, ram, shue and others here is in my opinion, as delibrately unAmerican as it gets. I don't see all Ozero backers the same. Its the DEMAND for stuff at the expense of others that chafs my ass big time. Asswipes like CVX and R&J will say NO, I don't want anything from the rich. THATS TOTAL BULLSHIT!! You have whined on these boards like little spoiled school girls and you know full well you think you are entitled to more income for you useless job, as well as more bennies. Some of you are down right treasonous bastards in my eyes.
I don't remember ever thinking that about any opponent's backers before. Ozero is the king if division. The backers make it point to make them selves hated by conservatives. Right ram? CVX? R&J? You make it a point to inform us of your totally unjustified DEMANDS!

As for the racism, I truely do wish Obama was white. I am 100% convinced if he was white, he would have already been impeached, jailed, tried, and possibly excuted for crimes against the people and the constitution of the United States of America. I have no doubt, his color is saving his ass.
Damned shame someone who can post such a juvenile rant has the right to vote.
 

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Guilty!

Somehow Ive managed to piss off the whole forum though - with the left hating me for one set of things and the right hating me for another!



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I don't hate you. I've been trying to discuss political shifts in several threads. I think the libertarian party has to grow from the ground up and that's going to take time. I'm interested to see what happens with the two disenfranchised groups from the DNC and the RNC, they are too far apart to blend into the same group. After the election what platform will they run on and what party candidates will they endorse?
I see the Christian democrats going Republican. No way are they going to go libertarian. Where does that leave libertarians? I consider myself a Constitutionalist/Tea Party platform.
I support giving power back to the states on abortion, gay marriage and education.

I'm a fan of Rand Paul.



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Damned shame someone who can post such a juvenile rant has the right to vote.
So tell me... What was you total income declared to the IRS in 2011? :rolleyes:
 

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Guilty!

Somehow Ive managed to piss off the whole forum though - with the left hating me for one set of things and the right hating me for another!



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Do you have a picture of Stalin over your bed? Do you carry a picture of Lenin in your wallet and tell people he is your favorite political leader of all time. Do you visit Marx's grave as a pilgrimage every year on the anniversary of his birth? NO? I don't hate you.

Do you put the constitution of the US ahead of your personal wants or beliefs? Do you believe the rule of law is paramount over the philosophical idea that some is should be done because YOU think it the right thing to do?
Do you believe that just because a mojority believes it should be done, is no reason to actually do it if it violates constitutional law?
If not, I actually like you. Do you have a Facebook page I can go to and click on "like"?
PS, if you answered no to the second paragraph questions, don't expect to be invited to ram, R&J, CVX, shue, and moose cocks all commie beach bash celebrating Ozero's Kenyan birth.



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Do you have a picture of Stalin over your bed? Do you carry a picture of Lenin in your wallet and tell people he is your favorite political leader of all time. Do you visit Marx's grave as a pilgrimage every year on the anniversary of his birth? NO? I don't hate you.

Do you put the constitution of the US ahead of your personal wants or beliefs? Do you believe the rule of law is paramount over the philosophical idea that some is should be done because YOU think it the right thing to do?
Do you believe that just because a mojority believes it should be done, is no reason to actually do it if it violates constitutional law?
If not, I actually like you. Do you have a Facebook page I can go to and click on "like"?
PS, if you answered no to the second paragraph questions, don't expect to be invited to ram, R&J, CVX, shue, and moose cocks all commie beach bash celebrating Ozero's Kenyan birth.
I do :happy: that was funny gn7



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I don't hate you. I've been trying to discuss political shifts in several threads. I think the libertarian party has to grow from the ground up and that's going to take time. I'm interested to see what happens with the two disenfranchised groups from the DNC and the RNC, they are too far apart to blend into the same group. After the election what platform will they run on and what party candidates will they endorse?
I see the Christian democrats going Republican. No way are they going to go libertarian. Where does that leave libertarians? I consider myself a Constitutionalist/Tea Party platform.
I support giving power back to the states on abortion, gay marriage and education.

I'm a fan of Rand Paul.
I never felt any hate from you Ms.
You've always been very respectful and straightforward with me.

The libertarians have many problems- the largest being finding a way to inform most everyone they are actually libertarians as well.

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