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Why do we get in bed with antiquated monarchies? Didn't we revolt against a King???

YouTube - WARNING GRAPHIC Bahrain royal family orders army to open fire on innocent people

I wonder if Glen Beck thinks we should treat the teacher demonstrators in Wisconsin in the same way.

BTW, Our big navy fleet is stationed In Bahrain. I think we need to move.
You post this ambiguois nonsense constantly. What's your point? Are you attacking the right? Or, are you questioning the wisdom of the government that provides your paycheck? Either way, your screwed. You clearly demonstrate your hypocrisy every time you bring out some scenario that you don't share the view of the powers that be, but shamelessly cash your paycheck provided by such.
 

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You post this ambiguois nonsense constantly. What's your point? Are you attacking the right? Or, are you questioning the wisdom of the government that provides your paycheck? Either way, your screwed. You clearly demonstrate your hypocrisy every time you bring out some scenario that you don't share the view of the powers that be, but shamelessly cash your paycheck provided by such.

I guess machineguning unarmed people marching in the street bother's me. Our Navy is giving the murderous King money. I guess that bothers me too. The king nor the Navy have anything to do with my paycheck. You can go back to sleep now Charlie :sleeping:
 

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Those Cockroach Shias get their marching orders from our old friend Iran. If they killed every Trouble making man woman and child I would not give a Damn. BTW That King is NOBODY to screw with!
 

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I'm completely confused. Who are you mad at? Or is it just the Gov't in general? The President is the one that should comment on this action if anyone, and yet you want to know what Glenn Beck thinks about the Teachers striking in Wisconsin....

Lets visit what happened in Bahrain first. The government has stated no protesting and the people continue to break the law and do so. So at what point is the government allowed to use deadly force to enforce the law and or prevent a riot? Little known fact: once the riot act has been read the use of deadly force is authorized if deemed necessary here in the US. But back to Bahrain; should we let the protesters march up to the palace and have one blow himself and a bunch of innocents up? Maybe just go on an uncontrolled rampage and tear up government building, civilian property, maybe hurt innocent law abiding citizens? If they say leave or we'll shoot, and then follow through with that action what is wrong with it. They fired tear gas first and that didn't work. Even the first shots didn't work until they realized they were "real bullets". Want to bet that the next time the gov't says leave or we'll shoot, they leave?

Now as for the teachers. A legal strike is one thing. Manipulating children to protest what the kids don't even have the capacity to understand should be criminal. Teachers are hired to educate and protect those children. Some teachers teach because they want to better the world and educate people. Obviously some are just in it for the money and don't care if they use the children they are supposed to be teaching, as long as the teachers get what they want. Or is it what the union wants? Isn't that whole mess because some lawmakers think they should use a form of merit based pay raises and not just seniority or blanket raises. I can see why the ones that don't care about the children they teach are concerned and protesting, they probably wouldn't merit a raise anyways. They should cut all the teachers wages by whatever the union dues are. Then they could make the same money if they chose to loose the union. What does the union do to better education?
 

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The US policy of meddling in the Mideast for years for oil corporate interests has put us in the position of supporting those Kings, Shahs, dictators, generals, and other tyrants who suppress their people. Our need to be buddies with these types is one reason why America is hated by the average citizen in that part of the world. Our diplomats who supposedly are spreading Democracy are accurately perceived as phonies.
The Arab people are now fed up eating dirt while their corrupt leaders live in gilded splendor. Shooting people in the street is only an aggravating action that will expedite getting the royal family either strung up or fleeing for their lives with their stolen loot.
I'm hoping Obama steps up and pulls our fleet and support out of their brutal little fiefdom. Iran is being portrayed as the hero nation in support of the people while we are portrayed as the backers of the corrupt ruling class. Ironic isn't it? The statue of liberty must be silently weeping.
 

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I'm completely confused. Who are you mad at?
Zombie is generally mad at any one who takes a chance and makes more money!:)hand:)hand:)hand:)hand
 

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The US policy of meddling in the Mideast for years for oil corporate interests has put us in the position of supporting those Kings, Shahs, dictators, generals, and other tyrants who suppress their people. Our need to be buddies with these types is one reason why America is hated by the average citizen in that part of the world. Our diplomats who supposedly are spreading Democracy are accurately perceived as phonies.
The Arab people are now fed up eating dirt while their corrupt leaders live in gilded splendor. Shooting people in the street is only an aggravating action that will expedite getting the royal family either strung up or fleeing for their lives with their stolen loot.
I'm hoping Obama steps up and pulls our fleet and support out of their brutal little fiefdom. Iran is being portrayed as the hero nation in support of the people while we are portrayed as the backers of the corrupt ruling class. Ironic isn't it? The statue of liberty must be silently weeping.
Bahrain is one of the most progressive countries in the middle east, one of the reasons iran and the fundelmentalist are targeting their royal family. And so what if they have some corruption in their government. Who are we to talk? When congress circumvents the constitution to get laws passed, courts are making laws, and big money has their hand so deep in washington's pocket they can use the politicians as pupets you want us to tell a monarch that is trying to fight religious hard liners and make his contry modern how to dream his own dream? Get real. A lot of troups have spent R&R time in Bahrain because of it's western influences and the fact we are not viewed as unwanted influences. What do you think the people that are protesting are wanting the gov't there to do? They want them to shut their borders and go back to Sharia law. Figure out what the fight is about before you pick a side. Or are you gullible enough to believe they just want to be accepted so they can sit around and sing KumBiYah? The protesters that were shot had no problem breaking the laws, but they want to cry help we're being oppressed when they are protesting for the right to oppress the entire country with their religious beliefs. Like I said, the next time the gov't there says leave or we'll open fire; I bet they leave.
 

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Bahrain is one of the most progressive countries in the middle east, one of the reasons iran and the fundelmentalist are targeting their royal family. And so what if they have some corruption in their government. Who are we to talk? When congress circumvents the constitution to get laws passed, courts are making laws, and big money has their hand so deep in washington's pocket they can use the politicians as pupets you want us to tell a monarch that is trying to fight religious hard liners and make his contry modern how to dream his own dream? Get real. A lot of troups have spent R&R time in Bahrain because of it's western influences and the fact we are not viewed as unwanted influences. What do you think the people that are protesting are wanting the gov't there to do? They want them to shut their borders and go back to Sharia law. Figure out what the fight is about before you pick a side. Or are you gullible enough to believe they just want to be accepted so they can sit around and sing KumBiYah? The protesters that were shot had no problem breaking the laws, but they want to cry help we're being oppressed when they are protesting for the right to oppress the entire country with their religious beliefs. Like I said, the next time the gov't there says leave or we'll open fire; I bet they leave.

"Who are we to talk? When congress circumvents the constitution to get laws passed, courts are making laws, and big money has their hand so deep in washington's pocket they can use the politicians as pupets"

I have to agree. In so many ways America has lost all moral authority we once had. Thanks to the valueless corporate fascism running our nation.

But I can talk! I still say that quickly resorting to gunning unarmed demonstrators down no matter what their cause is the worst form of tyranny. I know you are impressed. I think this was a huge error similar to when unarmed Kent State students were shot and killed by American troops. Certain events become turning points. Arabia is spinning in circles with turning points right now. For better or worse the people will prevail and the Kings and tyrants will be cast out finally. No matter what we do..
 

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Zombie is generally mad at any one who takes a chance and makes more money!:)hand:)hand:)hand:)hand

Naw, just decadent old Kings and their tyrant royal families, corrupt politicians, and crooked Corporate types. Everyone else is Ok, even you.:)hand
 

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Yeah, anyone who chooses a profession that pays $40k to $50k a year is really in it just for the money.:)sphss

Yeah you are right....working 8- 3 each day and only 9 months out of the year.......Most of the teachers were making 100K with working the equivilant to a private sector full time employee.....funny how you omit the facts.
 

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The problem is, we end up being our own worst enemy; We start out meaning well, but then we get sucked in to supporting the leadership of a country that becomes progressively more repressive...Mubarak & Marcos weren't tyrants or corrupt when they started running the country...but after a while they became corrupted and repressive...

There really isn't an easy answer to this; If we don't back the "Local" strongman, then we either lose favor w/ that country, or are accused of meddling....later, when the zhit hits the fan.....we must choose...wisely....so far, Obama has been lucky with Egypt, but there really is no telling which way these countries will go; Although democracy is the best system of govt so far, it can be a bit unpredictable, especially with populations that have not known democracy and don't understand how good it can be.

Remember, democracy's strength lays in the masses; The people in the middle east countries need to understand that their neighbors, no matter their differences, are their best resource for power. These people need to ignore their differences and use their common ground for the good of their country and future generations.
 

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Yeah you are right....working 8- 3 each day and only 9 months out of the year.......Most of the teachers were making 100K with working the equivilant to a private sector full time employee.....funny how you omit the facts.
As usual, good ol' Donzi is jumpin' on somebody w/o knowing the facts, but callin' for 'em...;) Some things just never change...:D
 

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Donzi, I just checked a site for recruiting teachers to WI, and the averages are in the $50-60,000 range....I don't know what the Cost-of-living index is in WI, but that seems a bit high....and doesn't address their benefits package...

The big problem here is that definitely, unions have become a problem, but, while I truly believe that the unions "Wings" should be trimmed, I don't think the rights of workers to organize should be completely eliminated....
 

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The US policy of meddling in the Mideast for years for oil corporate interests has put us in the position of supporting those Kings, Shahs, dictators, generals, and other tyrants who suppress their people. Our need to be buddies with these types is one reason why America is hated by the average citizen in that part of the world. Our diplomats who supposedly are spreading Democracy are accurately perceived as phonies.
The Arab people are now fed up eating dirt while their corrupt leaders live in gilded splendor. Shooting people in the street is only an aggravating action that will expedite getting the royal family either strung up or fleeing for their lives with their stolen loot.
I'm hoping Obama steps up and pulls our fleet and support out of their brutal little fiefdom. Iran is being portrayed as the hero nation in support of the people while we are portrayed as the backers of the corrupt ruling class. Ironic isn't it? The statue of liberty must be silently weeping.
Whats ironic is Bushes accurate assesment that democracy and the desire to live free would eventually spread like wild fire in the middle east.
 

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Yeah you are right....working 8- 3 each day and only 9 months out of the year.......Most of the teachers were making 100K with working the equivilant to a private sector full time employee.....funny how you omit the facts.
I know a lot of teachers and they make nowhere near 100k a year. Not to mention their 75k in student loans its going to take them 10 years to pay back.
 
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