I am done, I am sick of the bs around here. every boat related topic that has anything to do with a non paid advertiser goes to grey water. Its Bull shit. This is a boating site where we should be free to talk about boats, boat builds , boating what ever the fucck we want. But you people are so worried about making a buck you are missing the big picture. The people who make this site money are the members. If it was not for us you would not be making a dime. No one would pay to advertise to an empty forum. So you keep making the rules and play you game your way. I'll move on.