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Yeah, this is awful. We need to lower rates, get rid of loopholes, and simplify the code.
For corp taxes, income taxes, and estate taxes.
 

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For those who believe the conservatives here will hail this as a victory you would be wrong. Here we have a corporation who spends so much on accounting that they have figured out a way to avoid taxation while profiting handsomely. That's never been right. I'm actually surprised at the Kenyan's decision to bring him on board.
 

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Bill O'Rilley was all over it today.....somebody needs to put a plug in ALL governmental BS before there is nothing left to plug...
 

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For those who believe the conservatives here will hail this as a victory you would be wrong. Here we have a corporation who spends so much on accounting that they have figured out a way to avoid taxation while profiting handsomely. That's never been right.
:))eek:)) But if corporations pay less in tax then they have more money to invest.:)sphss
 

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Thatguy, you beat me to posting this!! I figured it would be ignored here. Congratulations :))THumbsUp.
Seriously, corporate America at this level is a sicknening disgrace. G.E. and many other corporations and banks need to be dismantled and broken up into smaller companies. Back taxes should be accessed. Crooked CEOs need to be aggressively tried and convicted criminally and civilly, Imeldt needs to be shown the door ASAP.
Obama, like Bush, is clearly a corporate stooge who has been doing as he is being told. 2/3 of his administration are corporate criminals.
Many think Corporate / government fascism is just an unfounded conspiracy theory. Not so.
Corporate power and money owns the presidency, 1/3 of the supreme court, most in Congress, most Generals and Admirals who retire and then go to cushy corporate jobs, and all the media. The worst aspect of this is the thousands of young Americans who have died or been seriously wounded fighting Corporate profit driven wars. Then these assholes have the gall to duck paying taxes on this blood money! We all have been duped for too long. I hope it is not too late to kill this corporate cancer that is destroying our nation.
 

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For those who believe the conservatives here will hail this as a victory you would be wrong. Here we have a corporation who spends so much on accounting that they have figured out a way to avoid taxation while profiting handsomely. That's never been right. I'm actually surprised at the Kenyan's decision to bring him on board.
Yes.
A crook is a crook no matter how you slice it.
I am not at all surprised that O has snuggled up to this guy.
Anyone who can be that big of a carpet bagger, and do it within the current laws, is a prime recruit for O's piracy voyage....

Z is correct. In the end, no matter how much he postures, O is no different than any other crook, but he is a bigger liar and hypocrite than most. (But most of us knew that all along)
 

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If corporations pay zero taxes, the entire burden of basic services (military, police, fire, roads, education, etc) falls on the average working man and that is not a sustainable plan.
 

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I would suspect that if someone knowledgable- and honest- would eliminate all the loopholes that these guys exploit, the revenue generated would not only pay down some of the deficit, but would allow most businesses a tax cut.....

How much money is sucked out of our countries finacial existance by dishonesty, both big and small money....:)coffee
 

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I would suspect that if someone knowledgable- and honest- would eliminate all the loopholes that these guys exploit, the revenue generated would not only pay down some of the deficit, but would allow most businesses a tax cut.....

How much money is sucked out of our countries finacial existance by dishonesty, both big and small money....:)coffee
When I brought up this very subject in the past in the PRF I was told exploiting tax loopholes was an American passtime, just like baseball.
 

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I don't mind legit tax breaks for legit reasons, but some of that is total BS, and allows low-life scoundrels to ditch more of the tax burden on honest folk. Everyone and their maiden aunt was using that "Hummer" break a few years ago, claiming vehicles over a certain weight class as a business vehicle for a tax break. For a real business expense maybe, but a lot of smoke blowing went with it.
 

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Yes.
A crook is a crook no matter how you slice it.
I am not at all surprised that O has snuggled up to this guy.
Anyone who can be that big of a carpet bagger, and do it within the current laws, is a prime recruit for O's piracy voyage....

Z is correct. In the end, no matter how much he postures, O is no different than any other crook, but he is a bigger liar and hypocrite than most. (But most of us knew that all along)

Obama's election theme of "Change you can believe in" or whatever it was sure seems to ring hollow now. There was hope he would be new and different. Nope, It's still the same old same old corrupt Washington DC scene.
 

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Everyone here needs to realize that both parties are basically full of crap...they are out to give themselves power and wealth, and sadly, taking care of the US of A is secondary...most politicians are ex lawyers and other papaer-pushers, which means they are useless slimy LIARS....
 

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Yeah, Corporations are sure getting screwed LMAO!!!

Read this if you still have an ounce of belief of how wonderful and beneficial greedy Corporations are to America. Americans are economically suffering....while they are making record Profits!!! Hmmmmm. I wonder if there some kind of linkage on this ???? Tax the greedy corporate MFers to the level of suffering all Americans are experiencing.
Anyone who still defends not raising taxes on the wealthy billionaires and billion dollar corporations is a Kool aide drinking patsy.



Corporate Profits At All-Time High As Recovery Stumbles
 

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Read this if you still have an ounce of belief of how wonderful and beneficial greedy Corporations are to America. Americans are economically suffering....while they are making record Profits!!! Hmmmmm. I wonder if there some kind of linkage on this ???? Tax the greedy corporate MFers to the level of suffering all Americans are experiencing.
Anyone who still defends not raising taxes on the wealthy billionaires and billion dollar corporations is a Kool aide drinking patsy.



Corporate Profits At All-Time High As Recovery Stumbles

Non-financials down 10 billion does not sound like very high profit to me. I guess you are speaking only of the greedy Wall Street bastards people hate?

The story actually makes it sound like hiring will be picking up the next two years from what the economist are saying in the story, which makes some sense since you need capital to hire workers.
 

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When I brought up this very subject in the past in the PRF I was told exploiting tax loopholes was an American passtime, just like baseball.
Sounds like you might have the wrong idea about the conservatives on the board. I don't know many conservatives that think no taxes are good.;)
 

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Anyone who still defends not raising taxes on the wealthy billionaires and billion dollar corporations is a Kool aide drinking patsy.
This will probably go over the heads of the typical corporate haters but blaming them for taking every advantage in the current tax code might not be the correct appropriation of your hatred. Maybe you would be better to blame those drafting tax codes so the fair share of corporate taxes can be collected rather than circumvented.

Personally, I take all the exemptions available to me when I do my taxes. I'd be willing to bet 99.9% of the smart people do as well. Why blame businesses for doing the same?
Change the code, don't hate those abiding it's writ.

For the record, I believe it's very wrong for any corporation making billions to pay zero taxes and I'll vote for and push for tax code changes that would close such loopholes within reason but I'm not stupid enough to blame business for taking available exemptions or to forget they are the source of income for both our citizens as well as our government.
 

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Sounds like you might have the wrong idea about the conservatives on the board. I don't know many conservatives that think no taxes are good.;)
Q, he only hears what he wants to hear for opportunistic finger pointing. He's the epitome of the Internet Troll. I find ignoring his posts makes every thread so much more reasonable.
 

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Now???

Obama's election theme of "Change you can believe in" or whatever it was sure seems to ring hollow now. There was hope he would be new and different. Nope, It's still the same old same old corrupt Washington DC scene.
NOW??? How about from day one? We are in the mess we're in because obama hypnotized the sheeple masses. Thinking people knew better as he spoke, but there are still those that support the "great impostor"..... 2012 can't get here soon enough, can it? .... obama is a fool, but only 1/10th as foolish as those that voted for him.....
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Read this if you still have an ounce of belief of how wonderful and beneficial greedy Corporations are to America. Americans are economically suffering....while they are making record Profits!!! Hmmmmm. I wonder if there some kind of linkage on this ???? Tax the greedy corporate MFers to the level of suffering all Americans are experiencing.
Anyone who still defends not raising taxes on the wealthy billionaires and billion dollar corporations is a Kool aide drinking patsy.



Corporate Profits At All-Time High As Recovery Stumbles
SO WHATS YOUR POINT ! Your hatred for corperations is a joke. So they are doing good. Isn't that what a corperation is suposed to do. What do you expect them to do ? Create positions they don't need just to hire people they don't need? Oh shit what am I saying. You expect them to hire way more than they need like Gov huh ?. If a corperation or business is handling it's workload and turning a profit with the amount of positions they have there is no reason to hire unless you just want to cut profits to create positions you don't need. It's not thier fault that O and the dems spent a trillion on a stimulus that did nothing to stimulate the economy where we really needed it. Hell if the dems would have listened to begin with we may have been able to avoid the collapse. But hell let's just do like you want and tax them beyond oblivion and then we can add to the unemployment rate when they lay people off. Seems to me they are doing a good job at keeping thier people in a job.:)sphss
 
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