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The little engine that could
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3.94 x 3.59 = 175" +/- 375hp at 8,800 built by Bruce Nogrady, Murrieta Ca.





Header mock-up 4-2-1..... the exhaust note is awesome







Back-up run of 164.2 mph to capture the new F/GC record at 164.845 mph:

my brother James at the wheel:

JCI Motorsports Hot Rod Lincoln Bonneville Speed Week 2012 - YouTube

1-2 shift at 8,500 the rest at 9,000 with the G-Force 5 speed. ( clutchless) one bad-ass transmission...good for 1,500 hp

the first two black markers on the left are the turn-out markers for the push trucks. The third marker is the first 1/4 mile marker. Black markers every 1/4 thereafter. The orange markers are mile markers. We ran the car to 3.25 miles on each full pass so I could see what the GPS speed at 3.25 miles. It ran 169 mph 3 times...

After the record run I changed gears and tire combo and I ran a 162 ( 3 mile ) 165 (3.25 gps) with a 12 mph cross headwind. the record run in the video at 164.2 had a 2 mph cross tailwind. ...........Do the math. This car will run 180 mph next year with this engine........ will do better than 220 with the 750hp turbo engine that's in the works.

If you are a gear-head and have never been to Bonneville .......make the trip some year. Next year come by and say "Hi"


S CP :)grn


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Congrats Jon, thats Awesome :))THumbsUp Even better when you get to do it with your dad :rolleyes:


They was talkin about Jason Line in the Summit truck gettin in the 200 MPH club last weekend @ Bonneville ..
 

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The little engine that could
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3.94 x 3.59 = 175" +/- 375hp at 8,800 built by Bruce Nogrady, Murrieta Ca.





Header mock-up 4-2-1..... the exhaust note is awesome







Back-up run of 164.2 mph to capture the new F/GC record at 164.845 mph:

my brother James at the wheel:

JCI Motorsports Hot Rod Lincoln Bonneville Speed Week 2012 - YouTube

1-2 shift at 8,500 the rest at 9,000 with the G-Force 5 speed. ( clutchless) one bad-ass transmission...good for 1,500 hp

the first two black markers on the left are the turn-out markers for the push trucks. The third marker is the first 1/4 mile marker. Black markers every 1/4 thereafter. The orange markers are mile markers. We ran the car to 3.25 miles on each full pass so I could see what the GPS speed at 3.25 miles. It ran 169 mph 3 times...

After the record run I changed gears and tire combo and I ran a 162 ( 3 mile ) 165 (3.25 gps) with a 12 mph cross headwind. the record run in the video at 164.2 had a 2 mph cross tailwind. ...........Do the math. This car will run 180 mph next year with this engine........ will do better than 220 with the 750hp turbo engine that's in the works.

If you are a gear-head and have never been to Bonneville .......make the trip some year. Next year come by and say "Hi"

S CP :)grn


Jon
:))THumbsUpCongrats on the record, and good luck next year. I went to B-ville last year for the 1st time and regretfully I didn't get to go this year as work got in the way. Hopefully next year. Bonneville is the Holy Grail of speed. Standing on the salt you are standing on hallowed ground. It is a "Must See" for any gearhead, wannabe gearhead or anyone who knows the difference between a 1/2" box wrench and a screwdriver.
 

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I would love to do that man. Congrats. :)

Ron,

You should give it a shot one year. It's just a blast.

I hope to talk Farmer John to come out some year. I have a feeling our family well be doing this for some years to come.


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I looked into a class one time. Don't recall exactly which one. At the time I had a mid engine Ferrari Dino replica. I noticed the same guy held the records starting at the smallest CID and over the years had increased it several times. Same vehicle class with different CID engines.
 

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the first two black markers on the left are the turn-out markers for the push trucks. The third marker is the first 1/4 mile marker. Black markers every 1/4 thereafter. The orange markers are mile markers. We ran the car to 3.25 miles on each full pass so I could see what the GPS speed at 3.25 miles. It ran 169 mph 3 times...

After the record run I changed gears and tire combo and I ran a 162 ( 3 mile ) 165 (3.25 gps) with a 12 mph cross headwind. the record run in the video at 164.2 had a 2 mph cross tailwind. ...........Do the math. This car will run 180 mph next year with this engine........ will do better than 220 with the 750hp turbo engine that's in the works.

If you are a gear-head and have never been to Bonneville .......make the trip some year. Next year come by and say "Hi"


S CP :)grn


Jon
congrats jon:))THumbsUp with those super accurate never wrong gps numbers in hand, did you go argue with 'em and tell 'em their timing system was crap??? just curious...:wink2:
 

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Records??

Most of the diehard salt flat racers I've been around would've bumped the record just over 200, maybe 205-208 and allowed a little wiggle room for another driver with the same team to bump it slightly and also join the "club".... Blasting a 196 mph record to 237 in one foul swoop isn't really in the spirit of the salt flats....
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PS I fully agree with the statement about going to the salt, at least once..... But it's kinda like those potato chips that you can't "eat just one"..... Go once, and you're hooked....You'll be back...... It's amazing to stand on the starting line BSing with a driver as he/she gets strapped in and watch them take off down the course.... At about the 3 1/2 mile, the vehicle disappears over the horizon!!!!!! No fences, no bleachers, no pit passes..... As a spectator you can go just about anywhere except out on the course, or the far side return road..... Spectator access past the 3 1/2 mile is somewhat limited and kinda restricted to chase vehicles.... BUT, at the 3 1/2 mile, you can see them coming, and going, for 3 1/2 miles in both directions..... Put it on your "Bucket list", for sure...... If I can swing it this year, I'll be there for the USFRA meet in September crewing on a 2 Liter streamliner looking for about 250+ on a 260 something record.....
 

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congrats jon:))THumbsUp with those super accurate never wrong gps numbers in hand, did you go argue with 'em and tell 'em their timing system was crap??? just curious...:wink2:
thanks Bob,

I was measuring exit speed at mile 3.25 not the average speed over mile 2-3 the recorded speed. I wanted to see what the car was gaining if any. When we were getting tech'd the guys told me that they have had people argue their GPS numbers vs the timing clocks. ...idiots.

In the Mustang I got a 188 mph time slip but my GPS read 192.4 at mile 3. that's exit speed vs the timed mile. I then hurt it 2 days later trying to get a 190mph time slip.

Next year we shoot for 180 in the Mk VIII in n/a trim and over 215 in Turbo trim. Make a trans change in the Mustang and some aero work and shoot for 195-200. The Clock is already ticking for next year.

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Most of the diehard salt flat racers I've been around would've bumped the record just over 200, maybe 205-208 and allowed a little wiggle room for another driver with the same team to bump it slightly and also join the "club".... Blasting a 196 mph record to 237 in one foul swoop isn't really in the spirit of the salt flats....
Ray
PS I fully agree with the statement about going to the salt, at least once..... But it's kinda like those potato chips that you can't "eat just one"..... Go once, and you're hooked....You'll be back...... It's amazing to stand on the starting line BSing with a driver as he/she gets strapped in and watch them take off down the course.... At about the 3 1/2 mile, the vehicle disappears over the horizon!!!!!! No fences, no bleachers, no pit passes..... As a spectator you can go just about anywhere except out on the course, or the far side return road..... Spectator access past the 3 1/2 mile is somewhat limited and kinda restricted to chase vehicles.... BUT, at the 3 1/2 mile, you can see them coming, and going, for 3 1/2 miles in both directions..... Put it on your "Bucket list", for sure...... If I can swing it this year, I'll be there for the USFRA meet in September crewing on a 2 Liter streamliner looking for about 250+ on a 260 something record.....
Ray,

Speed Demon was the next car off the line behind us:



We were retrieving the MKVIII at mile 4 when they went by at 432!!!! we were on the access road and they were on the course approx 100 yrds away.


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Good seat....

Jon, it doesn't get much better than that!!!! The sound is like nothing I've ever heard.... Boats, 1/4 mile cars, even fuelers, Nascar, nothing like a salt flats vehicle winding up tight for EVER....
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I can still remember in 91 we were down course when Al Teague came thru.What a sound that blown fuel hemi streamliner made and a roostertail of salt off the rear tires 430+mph . could hear the sound for miles.BTW CP congrats on the record I know they don't come easy.
 

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I can still remember in 91 we were down course when Al Teague came thru.What a sound that blown fuel hemi streamliner made and a roostertail of salt off the rear tires 430+mph . could hear the sound for miles.BTW CP congrats on the record I know they don't come easy.

Some year we will build something to run on "fuel" there. listening to the bark of an engine running on fuel for 4 miles is like no other.


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Stage II of the project: parts finally showed up




Garrett GT 4294. should be good up to 850hp on gas with 3 ltr engine

damn turbo weighs 36 lbs and is 1/3 the size of the engine block :thumb: Getty-up

a bit of work to do before Aug 10th. F/BGC record is 208 mph. We should have that covered .......


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Stage II of the project: parts finally showed up




Garrett GT 4294. should be good up to 850hp on gas with 3 ltr engine

damn turbo weighs 36 lbs and is 1/3 the size of the engine block :thumb: Getty-up

a bit of work to do before Aug 10th. F/BGC record is 208 mph. We should have that covered .......


S CP :happy:
Looks like alot of fun Jon. Are you going EFI on that setup?
Light the fuse & hang on!:)devil
 

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Looks like alot of fun Jon. Are you going EFI on that setup?
Light the fuse & hang on!:)devil

Yes EFI all the way: Mo Tec
 

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Cool! :))THumbsUp
Sure hope your not gonna try to run that thing at peak HP to set a record. You know, that wont work. Its all about average hp and how much you can make across the entire rpm band, Peak hp doesnt matter. Or so I've been told. :fishing1::wink2::rolleyes:
 

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Cool! :))THumbsUp
Sure hope your not gonna try to run that thing at peak HP to set a record. You know, that wont work. Its all about average hp and how much you can make across the entire rpm band, Peak hp doesnt matter. Or so I've been told. :fishing1::wink2::rolleyes:
three word for you: Application, application, application.


S CP ;)
 
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