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I think I have water in my fuel. Is there an easy way to treat or fix the 8 or so gallons I have in there? I was thinking about pumping it out into a gallon size glass jar, let it sit and separate, then poor the fuel off the top back in to the tank over and over until I stop getting water. Is there an easier way, maybe some sort of additive that will allow the engine to just burn through it?
 

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I did the glass jug with my pontoon boat.
The water is easy to see in the bottom of the jug.
There probably isn't that much.
 

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If you don't already have one, put a fuel/water separator in the system. They sell them at places like tractor supply store, and they are cheap.

Depending on how much water you have in there, denatured alcohol is hydrophilic and absorbs the water and then evaporates off. But, if it is a large amount of water, best to allow them to separate out then get the fuel off the top, like you said. But then use the denatured alcohol, and add a fuel/water separator before sending that gas to the engine.

WATER IN GAS

Good luck.:D

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If you can't remove the tank to turn it over and fully empty, I would get a cheap electric fuel pump and use a rubber inlit line that you can reach all sections of the tank. Tilt boat so that all fuel/water can get in a spot you can remove all of it.

Fuel water seperators are good at removing small amt's of water ie: using continuously when tank contents are good. Will help with small amts from sweat and etc. Will not help much if bad tank of gas.

Water sits under fuel, therefore many fuel tank pick-ups can't help you remove the amt of liquid under the pic-up entrance. This may be a lot ! Imagine 1/2" high x length of your tank.
 

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If it's only 8 gallons I'd drain the tank, and put some alchol in there to absorb anything left... Then put in some fuel treatment and fresh fuel. Use the other junk in your lawn mower.
 

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Thanks Guys

Alright guys, so here's what I did. I used an outboard style priming bulb to pump the gas into a Costco size pickle jar (probably about a gallon in volume). The first fill of the jar was almost completely water with about a half inch of fuel at the top. I just dumped it. The next was about 50/50, so I poured the fuel off the top into a fuel jug. The third was about 30% water. And the fourth even less. I then unscrewed and emptied the water separator, ran two jars through it pouring the fuel off the top right back into the fuel tank. Then repeated the process three more times. At the end of the process I was getting 99% fuel in the jar. Emptied the float bowls then added 5 more gallons of fresh fuel and hit the water... Had a great day on the river, even ran the tanks completely dry. I hate running out of gas.

Just thought I'd share for future reference.

BTW: How exactly would a fuel tank that was empty a month ago, not been on the water more than 10 minutes since, stored under a tarp with no rain... How would 2 gallons of water get in the fuel tank? Do I need to start buying fruit baskets for the neighbors or something? Maybe video surveillance and a baseball bat :D
 

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I saw a boat that had a thru hull vent that was being force fed water as boat was running thru the water. :(

I also caught myself once, while washing the boat and talking to someone, holding the hose pointed right at and in my thru hole vent fitting. :mad:
 

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Depending on your climate you can also get condensation causing this, especially under a tarp. Very common to happen to racecars stored in trailers out in the sun.
 

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put a couple gallons of methanol in the tank, it'll mix with the water and allow the motor to light it off
 

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Depending on your climate you can also get condensation causing this, especially under a tarp. Very common to happen to racecars stored in trailers out in the sun.
Could this be the issue? I live in Sacramento. It's hot, but the humidity is nothing like the Mid-West. Would more ventilation under the tarp possibly solve the issue?

The tanks vent inside the hull. The only place water (in liquid form) could enter is through the fill cap. And like I said, it had only been in the water for 10 minutes (just idling at the dock) since I completely drained the tanks and added the 8 or so gallons of fresh fuel.

If it is condensation, I'm definitely going to have to figure something out. 2 gallons of water in a month is crazy.

I'm considering pouring some alcohol in the tanks while they're empty, and leaving the caps off to let it evaporate. I just want to make sure it wont eat through any of the fuel hoses and rubber seals. Is it safe to do this?

Thanks again guys, for all your input and help!
 

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Could this be the issue? I live in Sacramento. It's hot, but the humidity is nothing like the Mid-West. Would more ventilation under the tarp possibly solve the issue?

The tanks vent inside the hull. The only place water (in liquid form) could enter is through the fill cap. And like I said, it had only been in the water for 10 minutes (just idling at the dock) since I completely drained the tanks and added the 8 or so gallons of fresh fuel.

If it is condensation, I'm definitely going to have to figure something out. 2 gallons of water in a month is crazy.

I'm considering pouring some alcohol in the tanks while they're empty, and leaving the caps off to let it evaporate. I just want to make sure it wont eat through any of the fuel hoses and rubber seals. Is it safe to do this?

Thanks again guys, for all your input and help!

Not sure how much condensation there may or may not be...

I would at least put one of those dampness absorber thingys under the top by your tank.

I know my last blower motor sitting in the garage would get enough condesnation on it during the week to fill up the valleys next to the intake.
 

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Depending on your climate you can also get condensation causing this, especially under a tarp. Very common to happen to racecars stored in trailers out in the sun.
Georgia is humid ? Since when ? LOL.

That's what happens here too. Big temp and humidity swings. Anything metal - especially aluminum - sweats profusely. Thus why I rigged a electric pump to pull all the fuel out of the tank(s) in the spring.

Some days you open the engine hatch and there is huge beads of water dripping from everything including the hatch.

I pulled a friends 2 yr old seperator a few weeks ago and it was full of water and rust ! Nasty !
 

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Georgia is humid ? Since when ? LOL.

That's what happens here too. Big temp and humidity swings. Anything metal - especially aluminum - sweats profusely. Thus why I rigged a electric pump to pull all the fuel out of the tank(s) in the spring.

Some days you open the engine hatch and there is huge beads of water dripping from everything including the hatch.

I pulled a friends 2 yr old seperator a few weeks ago and it was full of water and rust ! Nasty !

Listen spacer boy....

What kind of friend are you that your buddy hadn't changed his seperator in two years?!?!?!?!?!?
 

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I just had a thought :)bulb Would it reduce the likelihood of it occurring, or at least reduce the amount of condensation in the tank if I stored it with the tanks full?
 

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Listen spacer boy....

What kind of friend are you that your buddy hadn't changed his seperator in two years?!?!?!?!?!?
Last year he payed for and was told that he got an LOF and new seperator/filter. This year it had a miss so I told him I'll do a tune and guess what - same seperator/filter I put on it 2 yrs ago.

I can't police everything ! LOL.
 

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Make sure is 99% rubbing alcohol since anything less than that has water in it.

Basically, 70% rubbing alcohol has 30% water so thats why is important to make sure is 99%. Think you need to get it from a pharmacy.


If it's only 8 gallons I'd drain the tank, and put some alchol in there to absorb anything left... Then put in some fuel treatment and fresh fuel. Use the other junk in your lawn mower.
 

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Oh, about condensation I wrote this in another place the other year:

Two things must be present for condensation to occur: warm moist air, and cool surface temperatures below the dew point. The warm moist air contacts the cool surface (metal + glass especially) which instantly collects the water molecules that was in the warm moist air.

Happens with metal all the time. Exhaust manifolds can/will cause a ton of it. Mentioning this one part since we all see it since the water in the manifolds usually keep them cooler than the air. When sitting (not running) of course.

Think of your windows at home with ac on. Outside air during summer very warm/hot and full of moisture. Ac makes inside of glass cold.
 

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I just had a thought :)bulb Would it reduce the likelihood of it occurring, or at least reduce the amount of condensation in the tank if I stored it with the tanks full?
Some companies say yes.

However, with todays fuels turning to poop quickly, some companies say no.

How does that bite ya' ?

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We do not have ethanol fuel here yet (it is within driving sistance so it's close) and have yet to have someone have a problem if they regularly use most of the tank of fuel before they fill up. And then store with Stabil or such during the winter with usually (not always) atleast over 1/2 tank.

When stored, a cover or shrinkwrapping that is well vented and does not create a bunch of heat from the sun (think greenhouse) works well. Can you believe I see a difference between boats shrinkwrapped with the blue vs the white ? There is a reason why the blue wrapped one's don't have as much snow/ice on them as the white wrapped one's. ;)

BTW: many of our boats are stored for 8+months as our real summer is only 2 months. Duyam.
 
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