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I saw Joe interviewed today and said that he would Love to see Joe bidden walk into a plumbers union hall and say the things he said a couple of days ago.:))THumbsUp

Then he went on to ask,WHAT are zero's qualifications to be president?hil:)
 

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I saw Joe interviewed today and said that he would Love to see Joe bidden walk into a plumbers union hall and say the things he said a couple of days ago.:))THumbsUp

Then he went on to ask,WHAT are zero's qualifications to be president?hil:)


JD in case you forgot, Joe is an unlicensed scab plumber :))ThumbsDwn.....I'd like to see him walk into a plumbers union hall.........:knockout: :lmao1:


Hey JD, I think you could sell your DNA to Karl Rove :))THumbsUp ...Seriously, He would love to clone millions of JDs to vote Republican in the future. Useful rightie idiots are a desired commody hil:)
 

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JD in case you forgot, Joe is an unlicensed scab plumber :))ThumbsDwn.....I'd like to see him walk into a plumbers union hall.........:knockout: :lmao1:


Hey JD, I think you could sell your DNA to Karl Rove :))THumbsUp ...Seriously, He would love to clone millions of JDs to vote Republican in the future. Useful rightie idiots are a desired commody hil:)

ODD!! please post he is NOT unlicensed? although I never said he was.

I am waiting on that documentation and then I'll be happy to debate it with you.

You are the one always asking for documentation,do it or shut up!!
 

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JD in case you forgot, Joe is an unlicensed scab plumber :))ThumbsDwn.....I'd like to see him walk into a plumbers union hall.........:knockout: :lmao1:


Hey JD, I think you could sell your DNA to Karl Rove :))THumbsUp ...Seriously, He would love to clone millions of JDs to vote Republican in the future. Useful rightie idiots are a desired commody hil:)
Do you ever actually get your facts straight? No need to answer we all know the answer. "Joe the plumber" worked for someone at the time all the bs with Obama came out. Some states have journeyman programs, some don't. Not to mention apprentices can work under a general or with a journeyman that works under a licensed general for the particular trade. I've got three apprentices right now that work for me. None of them are "licensed" but they're sure as hell are legit in their trade application. I'm bettingn any journeyman I've ever signed off for had minimum double the training and experience you ever got for your junior g man badge. We don't even need to get into what kind of douchebag feels the need to attempt to trash a blue colar guy which is the backbone of this country because of his political affiliation.
 

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Do you ever actually get your facts straight? No need to answer we all know the answer. "Joe the plumber" worked for someone at the time all the bs with Obama came out. Some states have journeyman programs, some don't. Not to mention apprentices can work under a general or with a journeyman that works under a licensed general for the particular trade. I've got three apprentices right now that work for me. None of them are "licensed" but they're sure as hell are legit in their trade application. I'm bettingn any journeyman I've ever signed off for had minimum double the training and experience you ever got for your junior g man badge. We don't even need to get into what kind of douchebag feels the need to attempt to trash a blue colar guy which is the backbone of this country because of his political affiliation.
Because it fits his agenda of being a "Free Thinker" spewing liberal trash. Just the mere thought that a person has to belong to a union to do a trade shows very little character. Calls him a scab ? Funny I don't remember anywhere that Joe was recieving his money from gov pay. Seems the term scab fits tax payer sucking gov workers better then an honest Blue Collar worker trying to make it on his own. Z will stoop to any level to show us he is anything but a Free Thinker.:duh:
 

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Do you ever actually get your facts straight? No need to answer we all know the answer. "Joe the plumber" worked for someone at the time all the bs with Obama came out. Some states have journeyman programs, some don't. Not to mention apprentices can work under a general or with a journeyman that works under a licensed general for the particular trade. I've got three apprentices right now that work for me. None of them are "licensed" but they're sure as hell are legit in their trade application. I'm bettingn any journeyman I've ever signed off for had minimum double the training and experience you ever got for your junior g man badge. We don't even need to get into what kind of douchebag feels the need to attempt to trash a blue colar guy which is the backbone of this country because of his political affiliation.

Since "Joe the Politician" was never a union plumber and never worked for a union shop, isn't it true he would be considered a scab by the plumbers belonging to the Plumbers Union hall he mentioned Biden visiting ???...I would think "Chuck the Contractor" who hires union apprentices and journeyman would would realize this. So your union info is not relevant to the post topic. Not that relevancy is a big issue for you anyway.
Then again becoming a contractor in New Mexico back in the day probably did not require too stringent of a testing process. If you could find the contractor licensing office and the check didn't bounce you were good to go! I hope what ever you build is not as lopsided as your illogical posts .. :rolleyes:
 

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Because it fits his agenda of being a "Free Thinker" spewing liberal trash. Just the mere thought that a person has to belong to a union to do a trade shows very little character. Calls him a scab ? Funny I don't remember anywhere that Joe was recieving his money from gov pay. Seems the term scab fits tax payer sucking gov workers better then an honest Blue Collar worker trying to make it on his own. Z will stoop to any level to show us he is anything but a Free Thinker.:duh:

I have nothing for respect for honest blue collar or white collar workers, union members or not. Private sector or Government does not matter as you so pitifully try to maintain.

"Joe the Politician" is a fraud since his famous statement to Obama about buying his plumbing company was a lie from the start. Thanks to doofus McCain he made this clown famous and he won't go way!

Now there you go again talking about people making it on their own ........That's rich coming from you! Thanks for my first laugh today :lmao1:
 

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I have nothing for respect for honest blue collar or white collar workers, union members or not. Private sector or Government does not matter as you so pitifully try to maintain.

"Joe the Politician" is a fraud since his famous statement to Obama about buying his plumbing company was a lie from the start. Thanks to doofus McCain he made this clown famous and he won't go way!

Now there you go again talking about people making it on their own ........That's rich coming from you! Thanks for my first laugh today :lmao1:
Actually I think it is I who is laughing harder. Seems your facts are wrong again. Seems you forget it was O that put Joe in the limelight. He asked a simple question that "If" he were to buy the plumbing company ? It was O that stuck his foot in his mouth and then it was the left that went into a full attack to discredit Joe in order to save face for O. As far as your B.S. respose above. Your prior post contradicts your feelings for non union workers or you would not have called him a scab. You can say that's what union people would call him all you want. If you didn't agree you would not use the term. Boy oh boy Z. Everyday you show how you are so far away from being the Free Thinker you think you are. You hav not had a "Free" thought in your life. Just more gov brainwashed thinking. Gov is good at making you think your thinking. All the while you do just what they want without a clue. And why is it I can't have respect for those who make it on thier own? Because I didn't start the family business ? Just more jealousy from those who can't handle the fact that no one in thier family was smart enough and/or ambitious enough to do anymore than be a worker bee. Nad that they were not smart enough or ambitious enough to continue the legacy. Seems some have a hard on because the people in thier family didn't give a shit about them or thier future generations.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

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Actually I think it is I who is laughing harder. Seems your facts are wrong again. Seems you forget it was O that put Joe in the limelight. He asked a simple question that "If" he were to buy the plumbing company ? It was O that stuck his foot in his mouth and then it was the left that went into a full attack to discredit Joe in order to save face for O. As far as your B.S. respose above. Your prior post contradicts your feelings for non union workers or you would not have called him a scab. You can say that's what union people would call him all you want. If you didn't agree you would not use the term. Boy oh boy Z. Everyday you show how you are so far away from being the Free Thinker you think you are. You hav not had a "Free" thought in your life. Just more gov brainwashed thinking. Gov is good at making you think your thinking. All the while you do just what they want without a clue. And why is it I can't have respect for those who make it on thier own? Because I didn't start the family business ? Just more jealousy from those who can't handle the fact that no one in thier family was smart enough and/or ambitious enough to do anymore than be a worker bee. Nad that they were not smart enough or ambitious enough to continue the legacy. Seems some have a hard on because the people in thier family didn't give a shit about them or thier future generations.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
No, I think family owned and run businesses are great! Too bad big corporate power has killed off so many :))ThumbsDwn
However, you sure have a "Hard on" for government workers. It is your favorite rant topic :rolleyes:
Something bad must have happened to you to make you so angry toward those people who are employed by government......
 

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No, I think family owned and run businesses are great! Too bad big corporate power has killed off so many :))ThumbsDwn
However, you sure have a "Hard on" for government workers. It is your favorite rant topic :rolleyes:
Something bad must have happened to you to make you so angry toward those people who are employed by government......
Nope. Just have spent too many years working with them and seeing first hand how overpaid and overstaffed the departments are and the amout of lazziness that they create and the stupidity of thier employees are. Now I do not hold Law Enforcement, Fire and Military in this group. Just to give you an example here is my latest experience with our local gov. The city asked us to bid the city contract for steel supply again. A contract we held for decades until the last few years. So we go downtown to meet with the purchasing agent and the director of the department. The purchasing agent is all tattoo'd up, nose and face piercings and has not one clue about steel nomenclature. She hands us the spreadsheets she has created with the lists of all ornamental and structural shapes to bid on. About 1000 items. well every single item is not written up as it should be. For example for the channel items they have put them into thier system as "Mild Steel" "C" Channel. Well there is no nomenclature like that for channel. And they tell us our bids must have the same nomenclature that they have in thier system. We tell them we cannot do that as our printouts will read A36(not mild steel, mild steel is not a grade). Channel(no "C" as there is no such thing as a "C" channel. IT"S JUST CHANNEL. So they say can we change our system for them as they cannot change thiers. She sure didn't like getting laughed in her face. What a fucking joke. And how about when we deliver to the maintinence department. Well no matter what time you show up they are all sitting at the table in the shop B.S.ing and tell us they are on official break. You should see how quick they get off break when I tell them I can't wait and I will not redieliver the order and they will have to pick it up. The bottom line Z is almost all aspects of local, state, and Fed gov is overstaffed overpaid and over bennifited. This is the areas that have to be run like a business. Not like lazy gov. But you lefties keep saying "Gov can't be run like a business." But until we do it will always be the tax sucking overspending drag on the economy it is today. All these things shopuld be streamlined before ever thinking about tax hikes.
 

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Nope. Just have spent too many years working with them and seeing first hand how overpaid and overstaffed the departments are and the amout of lazziness that they create and the stupidity of thier employees are. Now I do not hold Law Enforcement, Fire and Military in this group. Just to give you an example here is my latest experience with our local gov. The city asked us to bid the city contract for steel supply again. A contract we held for decades until the last few years. So we go downtown to meet with the purchasing agent and the director of the department. The purchasing agent is all tattoo'd up, nose and face piercings and has not one clue about steel nomenclature. She hands us the spreadsheets she has created with the lists of all ornamental and structural shapes to bid on. About 1000 items. well every single item is not written up as it should be. For example for the channel items they have put them into thier system as "Mild Steel" "C" Channel. Well there is no nomenclature like that for channel. And they tell us our bids must have the same nomenclature that they have in thier system. We tell them we cannot do that as our printouts will read A36(not mild steel, mild steel is not a grade). Channel(no "C" as there is no such thing as a "C" channel. IT"S JUST CHANNEL. So they say can we change our system for them as they cannot change thiers. She sure didn't like getting laughed in her face. What a fucking joke. And how about when we deliver to the maintinence department. Well no matter what time you show up they are all sitting at the table in the shop B.S.ing and tell us they are on official break. You should see how quick they get off break when I tell them I can't wait and I will not redieliver the order and they will have to pick it up. The bottom line Z is almost all aspects of local, state, and Fed gov is overstaffed overpaid and over bennifited. This is the areas that have to be run like a business. Not like lazy gov. But you lefties keep saying "Gov can't be run like a business." But until we do it will always be the tax sucking overspending drag on the economy it is today. All these things shopuld be streamlined before ever thinking about tax hikes.

z and his other peanut gallery members are like their hero zero.They feel living off the taxpayers and sucking off hard working few is the way it should be.I would love to have him tell me "1" government agency that has done a great job and run efficiently what so ever.Now if any of the clowns in here can,I'll gladly listen otherwise don't bother to post your insults and trash.
 

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z and his other peanut gallery members are like their hero zero.They feel living off the taxpayers and sucking off hard working few is the way it should be.I would love to have him tell me "1" government agency that has done a great job and run efficiently what so ever.Now if any of the clowns in here can,I'll gladly listen otherwise don't bother to post your insults and trash.
The thing that blows my mind is when it comes to construction for Gov. The dumb ass's overun thier projected cost every time. And even though they have gone over on the original projected cost. They keep adding extras that were not in the original proposal. we just did a new bridge here in Tucson that went almost double than originally projected. First they canned the original drawings after they approved them. Seems it wasn't artsy fartsy enough. There was almost 1.5 mil down the tubes and and not one pebble moved to start the job. Then after they were 8mil over the 16 mil projected cost they started adding more to it. OHHHHHHHH we need to have a fountain so the homeless have a place to bathe and shoot thier heroine. Fucking liberals don't get it. city, State,Fed construction should be at a bare minimum to give the people what we need. Not artsy fartsy overbuilt monuments to themselves. Functionality is all that matters. Sure some clean lines and some asthetics. But these morons go way overboard. But hell who cares right. It's somebody elses money.:duh:
 

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Since "Joe the Politician" was never a union plumber and never worked for a union shop, isn't it true he would be considered a scab by the plumbers belonging to the Plumbers Union hall he mentioned Biden visiting ???...I would think "Chuck the Contractor" who hires union apprentices and journeyman would would realize this. So your union info is not relevant to the post topic. Not that relevancy is a big issue for you anyway.
Then again becoming a contractor in New Mexico back in the day probably did not require too stringent of a testing process. If you could find the contractor licensing office and the check didn't bounce you were good to go! I hope what ever you build is not as lopsided as your illogical posts .. :rolleyes:
That's the best you can come up with. Not surprised. Ive got two journeyman that aren't union anymore. Most of these guys could give two shots about the union bs right now, they simply want to work. Not that at matters, nm has some of the toughest licensing in the country. Youre an investigator, look it up. If my post was illogical to you, then that means it makes perfect sense to others. You're like some drunk that's out blasting off rounds in every direction.
 

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We don't even need to get into what kind of douchebag feels the need to attempt to trash a blue colar guy which is the backbone of this country because of his political affiliation.
Obama is now trailing with blue collar guys about 70-30.

. Thanks to doofus McCain he made this clown famous and he won't go way!

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we just did a new bridge here in Tucson that went almost double than originally projected. :
You capitalist corporate fat cat. :))THumbsUp :D
 

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Joe the Plumber is more a representation of Blue Collar America than an notable person. His fame is due 100% to the Kenyan who hypothetically imagined him becoming wealthy as a business owner and expected him to share his business success with his favorite voters rather than be able to enjoy the fruits of his own labors.

He was the perfect depiction of what's wrong with liberal thinking brought to the forefront and now that this liberal concept is exposed, it can't ever go away.
 

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Joe the Plumber is more a representation of Blue Collar America than an notable person. His fame is due 100% to the Kenyan who hypothetically imagined him becoming wealthy as a business owner and expected him to share his business success with his favorite voters rather than be able to enjoy the fruits of his own labors.

He was the perfect depiction of what's wrong with liberal thinking brought to the forefront and now that this liberal concept is exposed, it can't ever go away.

zero started this deal and his NIMROD VP as usual has thrown gas on smoldering embers.I feel the backbone of our Country the blue collar workers have taken offense to these two idiots.
 

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Time will tell whether the productive class of America will one day overpower the entitlement class of takers. The Kenyan won't allow that if he can help it. Grow the government, grown the entitlement class and bankrupt the system sooner than later is his clarion call. The "Joe the Plumber" types may now be outnumbered.:))ThumbsDwn
 

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Looks like Sam's trying to run for office (again)...click below to donate...:happy:

Joe the Plumber for Congress

Guess the book didn't do that well, nor the recording contract he was seeking...:rolleyes:
Anybody go to one of his motivational speaker sessions...:shock:
 

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I saw Joe interviewed today and said that he would Love to see Joe bidden walk into a plumbers union hall and say the things he said a couple of days ago.:))THumbsUp

Then he went on to ask,WHAT are zero's qualifications to be president?hil:)


JD in case you forgot, Joe is an unlicensed scab plumber :))ThumbsDwn.....I'd like to see him walk into a plumbers union hall.........:knockout: :lmao1:


Hey JD, I think you could sell your DNA to Karl Rove :))THumbsUp ...Seriously, He would love to clone millions of JDs to vote Republican in the future. Useful rightie idiots are a desired commody hil:)
why would you like to see him walk into a plumbers union? Why is it wrong for him to be a non union plumber? And why is it ok to wish harm upon non union types?
 

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why would you like to see him walk into a plumbers union?

Since he was saying he would like to see Biden say something about plumbers at a union hall. I just observed that he being non-unuon would not be well recieved either.


Why is it wrong for him to be a non union plumber?

I could care less. However, Union plumbers may not be so understanding.

And why is it ok to wish harm upon non union types?

Where do you get that I think it is OK wish harm on anybody ???? This cartoon smiley ??? :knockout: No wish for harm intended..... Now this smiley maybe :)violent

Please don't take my use or misuse of smileys too seriously :cuckoo:.. Remember I'm here for the cheap entertainment :D
 
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