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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/15/congressman-people-don-white-hoods-wilson-rebuked/

Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst last week is drawing new recriminations from his colleagues, with a member of the Congressional Black Caucus suggesting that a failure to rebuke the South Carolina Republican is tantamount to supporting the most blatant form of organized racism in American history.

In an obvious reference to the Ku Klux Klan, Rep. Hank Johnson, D-Ga., said Tuesday that people will put on "white hoods and ride through the countryside" if emerging racist attitudes, which he says were subtly supported by Wilson, are not rebuked. He said Wilson must be disciplined as an example.

The charged comments come as the House is preparing to take further action against Wiilson. House Democratic leaders decided to formally discipline him Tuesday afternoon for jeering President Obama during last week's joint session of Congress.

Wilson bellowed "You lie!" as Obama delivered his address.

The punishment is expected take the form of a "resolution of disapproval," which is a milder version of other more traditional means of congressional discipline. Wilson can avoid the slap on the wrist by apologizing to his colleagues on the House floor, but Wilson -- who already apologized directly to the White House -- has said that's not going to happen.

While he has been widely condemned by colleagues on both sides of the aisle for breaching protocol, some have gone a step further and accused Wilson of being racially motivated.

Johnson seemed to reference the protests held in Washington, D.C., on Saturday in making his claim. While many protesters were there to demonstrate against big government and federal over-spending, Johnson argued that a "fringe" element is motivated by race and that Wilson's behavior is a "wink" to that fringe.

New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd wrote in her column Sunday that Wilson's outburst convinced her that racial angst is the underlying motive among Obama critics like Wilson.

"I've been loath to admit that the shrieking lunacy of the summer ... had much to do with race," she wrote. "But Wilson's shocking disrespect for the office of the president -- no Democrat ever shouted 'liar' at W. when he was hawking a fake case for war in Iraq -- convinced me: Some people just can't believe a black man is president and will never accept it."

Dowd wrote that Wilson "clearly did not like being lectured and even rebuked by the brainy black president presiding over the majestic chamber."

Asked about the claim, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said race is not the factor.

But it is against House rules to call the president a "liar" or accuse him of "lying" when the House is in session, which is the basis for the punishment Tuesday.

"We're not the British parliament for a reason," said Kristie Greco, spokeswoman for House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn, D-S.C.,."Ignoring the issue sets a precedent for bad behavior."

Greco described the resolution as "direct" and "non-partisan."

"It goes directly to conduct on the House floor," Greco said.

Most Democrats in the House appear poised to sanction Wilson. But many Republicans argue that since Wilson has already apologized, this step is unnecessary. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., opposed punishing Wilson until Clyburn and other Democratic leaders persuaded her to change her mind.

Critics say Democrats are only prolonging the issue and hurting themselves by pushing for further action against Wilson. Republicans may use the Wilson resolution to try to embarrass Democrats Tuesday, by bringing up the alleged ethical lapses of House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y., or Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., or others.

The resolution is "privileged," meaning whenever it is introduced the measure goes to the front of the legislative line. It is unclear who will call up the measure.

A "resolution of disapproval" is not one of the four forms of discipline typically meted out in the House. The most commonly used means of punishment are expulsion, censure, reprimand or fine.

For instance, in 1997, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was both reprimanded and fined for his book deal. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., was reprimanded in 1990 for ethical breaches tied to a male prostitute. Republicans tried to censure Rep. Pete Stark, D-Calif., in 2007 for comments he made on the House floor about President Bush. But Democrats voted to set aside that effort.

A simple majority vote is needed to approve the resolution against Wilson

A quote left in the comment section on this topic...pretty much sums it up IMO.
"Let me see if I can put this together in my weak little racist mind.....someone calls a half-black man a liar when the facts show him to be a liar and that makes him racist? Which part of the half-black man does he hate? The white part or the black part? Or maybe he hates the liar part and race has nothing to do with it.......I hate to be the one to tell you this but the charge of racisim no longer resonates with white people. They have heard it as an excuse for every failure on the part of the black community for far too long...get over it! That excuse will no longer fly. Obama would be a liar and a communist if he was half-martian and half-sea turtle...his color is irrelevant."
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we all expected it, no surprise here that the race card has been pulled out, its the dem's fav new thing to do:)bulb
 

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The Man
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Freedom of Speech=Racist
Republican=Racist
White=Racist
Support anyone but Obama= Racist

Am I missing anything? I am 42 and have never been accused of being racist until I disagreed with BO or supported others that disagree with him.
Pretty much. It's sad that this is what it's coming to.
 

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Sadly just a matter of time. :(
 

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Freedom of Speech=Racist
Republican=Racist
White=Racist
Support anyone but Obama= Racist

Am I missing anything? I am 42 and have never been accused of being racist until I disagreed with BO or supported others that disagree with him.


I guess I'm a racist too! So sue me!
 

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It isn't just Joe Wilson it is every where. I have been following alot of the political blogs on FB and it is often and loudly shouted that you are a racist if you disagree with Obama.

Were you instantly called a racist if you disagreed with Clinton, Kerry, Gore, etc.... etc....? I don't here anyone calling me a racist when I disagree with Pelosi or Reid.
These people are not even willing to talk about the issues or even defend their position on the topic at hand. More often than not you are called a racist or told its George Bush's fault when you oppose their view.



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It isn't just Joe Wilson it is every where. I have been following alot of the political blogs on FB and it is often and loudly shouted that you are a racist if you disagree with Obama.

Were you instantly called a racist if you disagreed with Clinton, Kerry, Gore, etc.... etc....? I don't here anyone calling me a racist when I disagree with Pelosi or Reid.
These people are not even willing to talk about the issues or even defend their position on the topic at hand. More often than not you are called a racist or told its George Bush's fault when you oppose their view.
The left is scared Ms. they are reaching for one thing that in the past got many in America to back down because of the stigma. I am sure there are racists just as the black panthers are white haters supporting Obama....they are on both sides......but the events I have attended and watch, it's noting about race just issues...they are desperate to get us to back down....we need to keep our cool and star focused on the issues. We need to support each other and keep our head in the game this is to damn important.
 

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LOL, man, they are gettin a little crazy, throwin that race card at anything & everything... :rolleyes: Bringing race into every issue is just making it painfully obvious that the left/liberals are reaching the bottom of the barrel. Problem is(for them?), it doesn't seem to quite carry the stigma it once did. It has gotten so commonplace that I just don't think it bothers people all that much anymore. Kind of like hearing cusswords on regular TV, lol... :p

People have been walking on eggshells for too long & they are tired of seeing where "political correctness" has gotten them... :)coffee
 

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Can some one please tell me who the "brainy black pres." is that she is referring to? I am only familiar with Obama....

Aside from that I can only say......
 

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Which race was Joe defaming? The Kenyan is no where near 1/2 Black. Did Joe state which race he spoke out against???????

Why are we not surprised.

Where's "You's gonna Spill" at a time like this to enlighten us as to it's racism??
 

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Freedom of Speech=Racist
Republican=Racist
White=Racist
Support anyone but Obama= Racist

Am I missing anything? I am 42 and have never been accused of being racist until I disagreed with BO or supported others that disagree with him.
Nope, I think you have it pretty much covered.

At least the constant scream of "you're racist" IMO is reducing it's impact. it used to be a pretty powerful accusation, as it was not used all that often.
Now, turn arround and sneese and "Racist" comes flying your way.
Kind of like "the boy who cried wolf" allegory, keep screaming "racism" constantly enough and pretty soon NOBODY pays it ANY attention.
 
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