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By Jeff Pope Friday, June 26, 2009 | 2:02 a.m.

Lake Mead Losing Water

Lake Mead braces for lowest level since 1965 (4-24-2009)

The U.S. Bureau of Reclamation has worked out a deal to keep the water level at Lake Mead a foot higher through August to give the lake’s floating marinas extra time to move to deeper water before they become beached.

The marina operators had planned to move farther out into the lake as the water levels have continued to drop, but they asked for extra time after learning in April that the lake level could drop lower than expected.

The Bureau of Reclamation worked out a deal with regional stakeholders and its concession operators on Tuesday to retain an extra foot of water by releasing less at Hoover Dam in July and August.

Each one-foot drop in water adds 10 feet of new beach, said Bob Gripentog, co-owner and general manager of the Las Vegas Boat Harbor.

He said it takes about 30 days to prepare the boats and marina for a move, which he’s done four times already this year.

The extra 60 days means he won’t have to rush a fifth move, which may not be necessary depending on how far the water level actually drops, Gripentog said.

“It gives us a chance to have a little more time to make those moves so that we’re not so far behind the gun that we’re in such a rush,” he said. “It slows down how quickly that (water level) fall is going to come down.”

The delay also gives the U.S. Park Service time to maintain the concrete ramps, so boaters won’t have to wade out into the dirt and mud to launch.

The Bureau of Reclamation found some down-river users who agreed to delay taking their apportioned share of water until August or September, said Lorri Gray-Lee, director of the Lower Colorado Region.

The plan would have minimal effect on the levels in Lakes Mojave and Havasu, she said.

“We’re going to operate the system just a little tighter and keep more water in Lake Mead,” Gray-Lee said. “We would have the water spread out among the three reservoirs, but this way we’re going to just keep it in Mead a little longer and the other two reservoirs will be a little lower.”

The end-of-year projection now shows Lake Mead dropping several more feet below its current level of 1,095.56 feet above mean sea level. The lake is considered full at 1,219 feet.

This year started off well, and officials projected in January that Lake Mead could receive an additional 1 million acre feet of water based on the snowpack in the Rocky Mountains. But the thaw didn’t translate into the expected runoff, forcing the federal agency to revise its figures drastically in April.

Lower water levels can expose new reefs and other hazards to boaters.

Further down river, marina operators are keeping a close eye on the water levels, which aren’t a problem right now, said Daniel McCoy, manager of the boathouse and marina at Havasu Landing Resort.

“A foot wouldn’t be too drastic. It’s in the fall and wintertime when they drop it about 2 to 3 feet. That’s when it really becomes a problem,” he said. “It easily fluctuates a foot as it is.”
 

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This almost seems like the powers that be are trying hype a crisis. Lake Powell's water level is way up. Traditionally they have been kept at approximately the same percentage of capacity, but not right now. Anybody know the reason?
 

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I am just repeating what a manager from Callville Bay told me so don't stone me. The feds. have been back filling Powell, he stated the level at Powell was back up near 60 feet from it's low point. Once the feds. were done with Powell than they would have Mead become the main storage for the melt-off from the western Rockies. However all the levels depend on mother nature, the western Rockies snow pack, and the water contracts. He had no idea what level Mead would finally settle at, the feds. would like to get a figure and leave it at that since the cost of moving the marina's is very high. I don't recall when he stated the next contracts would be negotiated but he said they would know a lot more when that happens. He did state that if the water continues to go down Callville would be moved out to near where the tire breaker wall is currently and the tire breaker wall almost out to the end of the rock formation on the right hand side near the little beach.
 

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I am just repeating what a manager from Callville Bay told me so don't stone me. The feds. have been back filling Powell, he stated the level at Powell was back up near 60 feet from it's low point. Once the feds. were done with Powell than they would have Mead become the main storage for the melt-off from the western Rockies. However all the levels depend on mother nature, the western Rockies snow pack, and the water contracts. He had no idea what level Mead would finally settle at, the feds. would like to get a figure and leave it at that since the cost of moving the marina's is very high. I don't recall when he stated the next contracts would be negotiated but he said they would know a lot more when that happens. He did state that if the water continues to go down Callville would be moved out to near where the tire breaker wall is currently and the tire breaker wall almost out to the end of the rock formation on the right hand side near the little beach.
Sorry about that. I'll edit my post. Do we know why the feds decided to fill Powell before Mead?
 

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I thought Powell was the head and the only way to back fill it is by mother nature. Is there water control above Powell?
 

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I have launched a couple of times where Lake Mead Marina used to be. What a mess! It is way past the cement ramp on old asphalt with gravel and a bunch of pot holes. The water is smelly & green there. Sometimes I have to launch by my self and it is really hard to do now with a very short dock with no room to tie up. I keep telling myself to make the tow over to Cottonwood!!
 

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Let me tell you all one more time... They all are full of spam...

they are gonna drop mead till lake mead marine bay is dry period'...

water athority is pending a law suite from forever resorts for continuing
to drop the level..

they want that bay dry'd up to bring in the straw....

it has nothing to do with drought...or water shortage...

it has to do with too much water right now...


mead was dumping it as fast as they could with out flooding down river

remember havasu bitch'n about all the water in the channel???
 

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we have a place in Mead View and launch at South cove. the water goes much lower south cove will be in worst shape then it is.
Plus the brown water is getting closer to south cove then it will be useless. Maybe 2 miles away right now.
I dont even think it was more then 10 years ago when you could take your boat into the grand canyon and launch at pierce ferry.:mad:
 

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Let me tell you all one more time... They all are full of spam...

they are gonna drop mead till lake mead marine bay is dry period'...

water athority is pending a law suite from forever resorts for continuing
to drop the level..

they want that bay dry'd up to bring in the straw....

it has nothing to do with drought...or water shortage...

it has to do with too much water right now...


mead was dumping it as fast as they could with out flooding down river

remember havasu bitch'n about all the water in the channel???
Not sure where you get your "SPAM" but I've heard kinda something like this but in the same breathe the story turns to what I've stated. My S.I.L. works for the Feds and tells me it's all based on the contracts, but there lies the gray area.
 

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Not sure where you get your "SPAM" but I've heard kinda something like this but in the same breathe the story turns to what I've stated. My S.I.L. works for the Feds and tells me it's all based on the contracts, but there lies the gray area.
x2.... He who owns the water rules. Boating/Marinas and water recreation are second class citizens to Reclamation/storage and flood control...

There isn't much "grey area"... At least the team of laywers from seven states don't thinks so in terms of their states allocation. Just read through these several dozen documents and thousand pages of EA/EIS/Operations guidelines and it will make perfect sense..


http://www.usbr.gov/lc/region/programs/strategies/documents.html - Colorado River Interim Guidelines for
Lower Basin Shortages and Coordinated Operations
for Lakes Powell and Mead



 

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As of yesterday Mead lake elevation was at 1094 ft..... 894-1100 is normal operations.... Anything over 1100 is considered Domestic Surplus... They have it right where they want it... Sorry, dont flame the messenger, ....
 

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I agree Mesquito Creek, seems they'll just keep a lot of us guessing. People need to remember Lake Mead is a resevoir used to store water to the states that paid to build Mead and Hoover Dam, sorry Nevada. My S.I.L., f'n tree hugger type wishes the feds. would kick all of us boaters off fed. waterways like Mead, she thinks we ruin nature, she also has no problem with our tax dollar paying for that little f'n Desert Tortoise fence you see around Lake Mead. Dam she pisses me off.:|err
 

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the staw is the new water intake that is coming thru lake mead marina bay

they are gonna drop the water to 1050.... forever resorts saya they are gonna sue
the water athourity if they do...

the head of the water athourity told me back in 2000 that they were planing
to drop the water level... we were standind on the vegas wash ramp...
he also said they were gonna move all the marinas. only hemming way would be open

thats closing goverment, vegas wash, lake mead marina, overton......

kinda funny that he and only he new about this big drought....LOL

go out to the old jet ski cove and look at whats going on...

you have to have bonoculars..... top secret, no boats allowed
 

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As of yesterday Mead lake elevation was at 1094 ft..... 894-1100 is normal operations.... Anything over 1100 is considered Domestic Surplus... They have it right where they want it... Sorry, dont flame the messenger, ....
Wow, maybe they need to update that.
Wonder when normal operating range was written.
 
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