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Than you go to school and learn a career. Minimum wage was never meant to be a lived on.


Even at $9/hr, your still earning BELOW the poverty line...:)hammers
 

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Even at $9/hr, your still earning BELOW the poverty line...:)hammers
Where do you come up with this stuff?? No you aren't. Poverty line for an individual is $11,702 which is well below current minimum wage. There are 48 poverty thresholds. If they do have kids and add in legitimate welfare, still above poverty line. Family of 4 (2 kids) is $22,811. If I lost my job and was that poor, you bet your ass my wife wouldn't just be sitting around all day watching soaps. And if we were poor before the kids came along, I damn sure wouldn't be having kids I couldn't afford. If a family of 4 can't manage to make $11 an hour, minimum wage ain't the problem.

Bottom line is anyone who works full time can easily be above poverty line with current minimum wage. Raising the minimum wage doesn't help unemployed people below the poverty line. They have no job. And raising minimum wage will eliminate a lot of current jobs instead of creating any new ones.

Poverty line for those baby mommas spitting out 8 kids is $43,487. I guess we should raise minimum wage to $21 so they can get by too (with only 1 income mind you).

How is common sense lost on so many people.
 

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Where do you come up with this stuff?? No you aren't. Poverty line for an individual is $11,702 which is well below current minimum wage. There are 48 poverty thresholds. If they do have kids and add in legitimate welfare, still above poverty line. Family of 4 (2 kids) is $22,811. If I lost my job and was that poor, you bet your ass my wife wouldn't just be sitting around all day watching soaps. And if we were poor before the kids came along, I damn sure wouldn't be having kids I couldn't afford. If a family of 4 can't manage to make $11 an hour, minimum wage ain't the problem.

Bottom line is anyone who works full time can easily be above poverty line with current minimum wage. Raising the minimum wage doesn't help unemployed people below the poverty line. They have no job. And raising minimum wage will eliminate a lot of current jobs instead of creating any new ones.

Poverty line for those baby mommas spitting out 8 kids is $43,487. I guess we should raise minimum wage to $21 so they can get by too (with only 1 income mind you).

How is common sense lost on so many people.
Watching TV.

ITs a common practice to consistently use the word "poverty" when speaking of the poor entitlement class. Shues answer exemplifies the mindset of most americans.

Without thinking, they believe that minimum wage is below poverty, and that the poor need more. There is no common sense anymore. we accept what we are told as fact.

My question is where the money to pay the new wage is going to come from? As if I dont already know...
 

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Where do you come up with this stuff?? No you aren't. Poverty line for an individual is $11,702 which is well below current minimum wage. There are 48 poverty thresholds. If they do have kids and add in legitimate welfare, still above poverty line. Family of 4 (2 kids) is $22,811. If I lost my job and was that poor, you bet your ass my wife wouldn't just be sitting around all day watching soaps. And if we were poor before the kids came along, I damn sure wouldn't be having kids I couldn't afford. If a family of 4 can't manage to make $11 an hour, minimum wage ain't the problem.

Bottom line is anyone who works full time can easily be above poverty line with current minimum wage. Raising the minimum wage doesn't help unemployed people below the poverty line. They have no job. And raising minimum wage will eliminate a lot of current jobs instead of creating any new ones.

Poverty line for those baby mommas spitting out 8 kids is $43,487. I guess we should raise minimum wage to $21 so they can get by too (with only 1 income mind you).

How is common sense lost on so many people.
Good stuff.:))THumbsUp
Wages should be set by market forces. No need for govt. interference.
 

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Even at $9/hr, your still earning BELOW the poverty line...:)hammers
As usual, you have no fucking clue as to how the business world works. Every time your hero gets involved, it screws the very people he's trying to help, as well as business and the middle class. Go ahead and raise it to $10 and hour and watch how many people get laid off as well as how many businesses go out. You guys are so stupid when it comes to business, but when you have been sucking off the government tit your whole career, you'd never know. Minimum wage jobs are meant as entry level jobs, not a job you have well into your 30's. Unfortunately your hero has screwed up things so bad that that's all that available now.
I'm not sure if your hero is that stupid, or if he's really trying to bring the country to it's knee, but either way, that's where we're heading. You fools just have no clue as to what's happening.
 

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Stocks and Corp Profits at all-time high...worker wages at all-time low...
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Hmm, does it occur to you that govt. regs/costs make it less desirable to hire more people? Isn't govt. sending the wrong message to business?
 

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Pay Scales recovering significantly over last 3 quarters...:))THumbsUp
Have you read your last two post??? Corp profits up and wages down or is it the last three quarters of wages are rising??? You just don't get it. Corp profits are up because Uncle Ben will not stop printing money which makes everything cost more which make wages look smaller. If business can't pass along the increases in cost of goods they manufacture I promise you they will close their doors and wages won't mean shit to the unemployed. But your hero wants it that way, while blaming anyone not agreeing with his agenda and get to the promised land where we all play on a level playing field. At least at one time in this country if you didn't like your wages nobody stopped you from looking somewhere else that would pay you more. But the biggest problem I see with most workers today is that they are Stuck On Stupid, and a raise is a right. Earn it baby, earn it...BBD
 

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Just another Union. Telling us what we must pay for our help. Must supply them insurance. Pay their retirement, as in Social Security. That is a oxymoron if I ever heard one. Where does this end?
 

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Just another Union. Telling us what we must pay for our help. Must supply them insurance. Pay their retirement, as in Social Security. That is a oxymoron if I ever heard one. Where does this end?
 

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Translation:

Costco can benefit from a raised minimum wage because we have room in the bottom line and start-ups and mom and pops and smaller corporations and stores don't. This should drive more people into our stores as they phase out of the market.
 

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If a family of 4 can't manage to make $11 an hour, minimum wage ain't the problem.

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thats the one thing that the government and the suporter of this just refuse to recognize.
No way I can afford to pay the drunks, dopeheads and mentally inable around here 10 bucks an hour.
BAM! Like Boss posted, if you a couple can't manage to earn enough to not be below the poverty level, the problem isn't the minimum wage.

Maybe the feds should hire all these uneducated braindead zombies and let them pay them minimum wage.
Wait, .....they did, and they pay them WAY more than minimum. I guess the largest, worst run corporation, #1 debtor on earth, wants the entire country to follow their failed busniess model. I think thats pretty close to socialism.



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Why work at all. Didn't that socialist bitch Pelosi say, that unemployment creates jobs and makes the economy grow. Can you imagine what she thinks what raising the min.wage would do for the economy. :)hammers
 

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I don't get this whole minimum wage VS poverty level thing at all. When I was in school, NOBODY except school kids worked for minimum wage.
If you are WORTH more then the current minimum wage today, then you WILL get paid more than minimum. Nobody works for minimum unlses that all they are worth. Raising the minimum is simply the gevernments way of insisting you pay them MORE than they are worth, BECAUSE ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. It buying more votes WITH YOUR MONEY!!

I have said this before, and CVX insists on blowing it off. NOBODY IN THIS COUNTRY WORKS FOR ONE DIME LESS THAN THEY AGREED TO. NOBODY.

If they don't want to work for 9.00 on hr, nobody is forcing them to. Move over and let the next guy in. There is no shortage of illiterates in this country. Its a target rich environment. WE didn't make it that way. THEY did it to themselves, and WE ar suppose to reward their ignorance with more money? WTF.
Its called COMPETITION, and FREE MARKET. Fed workers like CVX and R&J can't come to grips with that concept. Nobody on DC can grasp the concept. The government is brainless.



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I worked from 7pm to 7am 7 days a week for $1.47 an hour w/o any over time pay... This was a GM contracted carpet weaving company in Culver City for the Van Nuys auto plant... Collins and Ackman if I recall correctly, and I lasted almost the whole summer before I bailed out of it.... Load the primary and secondary spools of yarn and kick back for 3 or 4 hours and do it all again... Those big rolls of lush pile carpet made good places to sleep as the machines did the work....AND, that $1.47 had a nickel for the night shift differential!!!!
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