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My dog is 11 and a few months back started to slow down,we switched his dog food to science diet and he is like a puppy with tons and tons of energy now all he ever wants to do is walk and run in the park across the street. If it was up to him he would like me to move over there with him and be homeless with him in the park. I cant complain though I rather have this new energy then him slowing down. We also give him alot less people food. They sure are forgiving, here I am eating a steak last night and didnt give the bone because last time it upset his stomach and he just says oh-well I still love you... lets go for a walk
 

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What kind of dog is he??
 

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My dog is 11 and a few months back started to slow down,we switched his dog food to science diet and he is like a puppy with tons and tons of energy now all he ever wants to do is walk and run in the park across the street. If it was up to him he would like me to move over there with him and be homeless with him in the park. I cant complain though I rather have this new energy then him slowing down. We also give him alot less people food. They sure are forgiving, here I am eating a steak last night and didnt give the bone because last time it upset his stomach and he just says oh-well I still love you... lets go for a walk

What brand name food were giving him before the switch?
 

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What brand name food were giving him before the switch?
it mighta been the people food that was making him slow down. most human food has alot of sugar and carbs in it, dogs don't do good on carbs and starches. same reason they can't eat chocolate, its not the cocoa, its the sugar in the chocolate.it'll send em into a diabetic coma:)sphss good friend of mine(a vet) told me he see's this alot more than people would think, more so in households with kids(kids like to feed dogs whatever they find). only scraps my dogs get are meat or bones.
 

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If anyone has an older dog with this problem that does not respond to a change in diet, you might want to ask your Vet about Seligilene. This is also called the Canine Fountain of Youth. We have used this on 2 of our old guys and the change is amazing, they go from bored and uninterested in anything to being lively and active like they were when they were 4 or 5 years old. It takes a few weeks for the change, but it is like day and night and it does not affect their sleeping habits so it's not like you have them on some kind of speed or something.

Another cause of listless behavior is pain due to arthritis and joint degeneration. This can be relieved by a CANINE painkiller. Don't give then aspirin, Tylenol, Advil, etc, they cannot tolerate these human meds.

It doesn't cost much to keep your furry pals active and alert right up to the end of their days, and isn't that the whole idea of caring for a pet: to have them be an active part of your life?
 

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Although the sugar in chocolate is not good for them it's not why it's poisonous. People food isn't good for them in general. More about Chocolate poisoning...

Why is Chocolate Lethal?

Chocolate contains theobromine. A naturally occurring stimulant found in the cocoa bean, theobromine increases urination and affects the central nervous system as well as heart muscle. While amounts vary by type of chocolate, it's the theobromine that is poisonous to dogs.

Symptoms of Chocolate Dog Ingestion and Poisoning

You can recognize that your dog has eaten a toxic dose of chocolate from the symptoms. Within the first few hours, the evidence includes vomiting, diarrhea or hyperactivity. As time passes and there's increased absorption of the toxic substance, you'll see an increase in the dog's heart rate, which can cause arrhythmia, restlessness, hyperactivity, muscle twitching, increased urination or excessive panting.

This can lead to hyperthermia, muscle tremors, seizures, coma and even death.
How Much Chocolate Is Deadly?

If a 50-pound dog eats a teaspoonful of milk chocolate, it's not going to cause serious problems. However, if that same dog gorges himself on a two-layer chocolate cake, his stomach will feel more than upset and soon it's likely he'll be vomiting or experiencing diarrhea.

To answer the question "How much is too much" is not simple. The health and age of your dog must be considered. Obviously if your dog is aged and not in top shape, his reaction to a plate of chocolate is going to be different from a young healthy dog of the same weight.

Another fact that must be considered is this: Not all chocolate is the same. Some has a small amount of theobromine; another type has a large amount and still another contains an amount that is somewhere in between. The quantity has a relationship with the weight of your dog. Small dogs can be poisoned, it is easy to understand, from smaller amounts of theobromine than large dogs.

Which chocolate is the safest, relatively speaking? White chocolate. It has the least amount of theobromine: 1 mg per ounce. Far on the other side of the spectrum is baking chocolate, which has a huge 450 mg of theobromine per ounce!

Here are a few other chocolates for you to ponder: hot chocolate, 12 mg of theobromine per ounce; milk chocolate, 60 mg/oz; and up there near baking chocolate: semi-sweet chocolate with 260 mg/oz.

You might try using this to remember these chocolates from least to most toxic: What Happy Moose Says BAA? Or: White-Hot-Milk-Semi-Baked. If you have a better way to remember, contact us!

Knowing which chocolate is the most toxic is important, but leaves one wondering how much must be eaten to poison a dog. The list below should be helpful. Maybe you can clip it and post it on your refrigerator?

* White chocolate: 200 ounces per pound of body weight. It takes 250 pounds of white chocolate to cause signs of poisoning in a 20-pound dog, 125 pounds for a 10-pound dog.

* Milk chocolate: 1 ounce per pound of body weight. Approximately one pound of milk chocolate is poisonous to a 20-pound dog; one-half pound for a 10-pound dog. The average chocolate bar contains 2 to 3 ounces of milk chocolate. It would take 2-3 candy bars to poison a 10 pound dog. Semi-sweet chocolate has a similar toxic level.

* Sweet cocoa: 0.3 ounces per pound of body weight. One-third of a pound of sweet cocoa is toxic to a 20-pound dog; 1/6 pound for a 10-pound dog.

* Baking chocolate: 0.1 ounce per pound body weight. Two one-ounce squares of bakers' chocolate is toxic to a 20-pound dog; one ounce for a 10-pound dog.
 

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The vet advised me to get glucosamine with MSM (NOT chondroitin) for arthritis and joint degeneration in my older dog who was having lots of problems especially on the second story stairs. About a month after I started giving it to him he is charging up the stairs like he used to before the pills his back legs would give out and he couldn't get back up.
Costco carries it big bottles
 

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The vet advised me to get glucosamine with MSM (NOT chondroitin) for arthritis and joint degeneration in my older dog who was having lots of problems especially on the second story stairs. About a month after I started giving it to him he is charging up the stairs like he used to before the pills his back legs would give out and he couldn't get back up.
Costco carries it big bottles
I had the same result when I started taking it, but aren't the pills pretty big to give to your dog? We hide their meds in a teaspoon of canned food, but those are big pills! Still if it works, it works.
 

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Just last week my 105lb Golden retriever/Wolf/Malamute was looking like he was not happy and almost on his death bed. His stomach almost looked like the size of a basketball. All I could think about was Marley and Me. He definitely had lost weight over the course of the prior week. He will be 14 in Oct.
I started feeding him fancy feast cat food mixed with canned pumpkin topped of with dried ginger sprinkled on top. He is 100% better than he was a week ago. He's not puking anymore and his belly has shrunk. I think the kids fed him something he probably shouldn't have eaten.
 

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and not one mention of the Michael Vick Dog Training Tecniques DVD.....

Just a joke i have two beautiful shepard mix full grown dogs that still think they're pups in the backyard..... love the heck outta of them, i'll post some pics in the Dog pics thread
 

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We give the gluclosamine to our 100 lb. Belgan sheppard too. Yes they are big pills but have trained him to catch treats.

We started out wrapping them in thin sliced turkey or in a piece of hotdog.
Now he eats two pills and knows that as soon as the pills are down he gets a bite of turkey. Works great.

Ken
 

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LOL...I love thses dog stories and that is why I share my Roxy escapades.
I love the dog stories as well. Mine is at my side crying to go for his evening walk. I think he can tell time, when it is past 7pm he gets all hyped up even if I am doing nothing. But when the shoes come on its a big give away. They study us but we also study them because when they go to the door we know its potty time.
 

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My neighbor who has 3 dogs never heard of onion poisining. I've heard that it can be evem more toxic than chocolate.

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Onions and garlic are other dangerous food ingredients that cause sickness in dogs, cats and also livestock. Onions and garlic contain the toxic ingredient thiosulphate. Onions are more of a danger.

Pets affected by onion toxicity will develop haemolytic anaemia, where the pet’s red blood cells burst while circulating in its body.

At first, pets affected by onion poisoning show gastroenteritis with vomiting and diarrhoea. They will show no interest in food and will be dull and weak. The red pigment from the burst blood cells appears in an affected animal’s urine and it becomes breathless. The breathlessness occurs because the red blood cells that carry oxygen through the body are reduced in number.

The poisoning occurs a few days after the pet has eaten the onion. All forms of onion can be a problem including dehydrated onions, raw onions, cooked onions and table scraps containing cooked onions and/or garlic. Left over pizza, Chinese dishes and commercial baby food containing onion, sometimes fed as a supplement to young pets, can cause illness.

Onion poisoning can occur with a single ingestion of large quantities or with repeated meals containing small amounts of onion. A single meal of 600 to 800 grams of raw onion can be dangerous whereas a ten-kilogram dog, fed 150 grams of onion for several days, is also likely to develop anaemia. The condition improves once the dog is prevented from eating any further onion

While garlic also contains the toxic ingredient thiosulphate, it seems that garlic is less toxic and large amounts would need to be eaten to cause illness.
 

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My X wife is out of control. Does that count? :)sphss

Good info on glucosamine and MSM! :)

X's are always out of control!! That is why they are X's!! :)
 

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I didn't know about onions. Thanks.

Also macadamia nuts are poisonous as well as grapes and raisins.
 

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My neighbor who has 3 dogs never heard of onion poisining. I've heard that it can be evem more toxic than chocolate.

Onion and garlic poisoning Top
Onions and garlic are other dangerous food ingredients that cause sickness in dogs, cats and also livestock. Onions and garlic contain the toxic ingredient thiosulphate. Onions are more of a danger.

Pets affected by onion toxicity will develop haemolytic anaemia, where the pet’s red blood cells burst while circulating in its body.

At first, pets affected by onion poisoning show gastroenteritis with vomiting and diarrhoea. They will show no interest in food and will be dull and weak. The red pigment from the burst blood cells appears in an affected animal’s urine and it becomes breathless. The breathlessness occurs because the red blood cells that carry oxygen through the body are reduced in number.

The poisoning occurs a few days after the pet has eaten the onion. All forms of onion can be a problem including dehydrated onions, raw onions, cooked onions and table scraps containing cooked onions and/or garlic. Left over pizza, Chinese dishes and commercial baby food containing onion, sometimes fed as a supplement to young pets, can cause illness.

Onion poisoning can occur with a single ingestion of large quantities or with repeated meals containing small amounts of onion. A single meal of 600 to 800 grams of raw onion can be dangerous whereas a ten-kilogram dog, fed 150 grams of onion for several days, is also likely to develop anaemia. The condition improves once the dog is prevented from eating any further onion

While garlic also contains the toxic ingredient thiosulphate, it seems that garlic is less toxic and large amounts would need to be eaten to cause illness.
Wow!! Now you really have me thinking whether or not my dog ate onion to cause his sickness.
 

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One of my dogs ate a half a block of Parmesan cheese a couple weeks ago. He was not happy the next day.
 
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