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I work in the Criminal Justice System out in California and have worked as a probation and parole office as well as running programs, as you can see in my signature block. I am also a Combat Special Operations Vet. With the left wanting to move them to our civilian prisions do they not realize the danger that they would pose to us even if they are never released? Look at how violent MS13 and other gangs that have come out of Central America with communist/terrorist military training and they infiltrate, pass along and recruit other prisoners helping to increase their fear factor and expand their power with training and tactics that only the Military can really handle. The Muslim growth in the country, from reports I have seen, the prison conversion rate is 3 times that of civilians in America. People who have done horrible things and in many time blame society and us for their incarceration and many seek out some level of revenge on their release.

So my question: What are the long term affects and potential danger and harm that these detainees can give to this country if they are permitted to enter our prisons systems? I would put forth that is exactly what Al-Qaeda wants is to have their captured fighters to teach and convert a home grown Army of already proven killers and criminals that in many times have nothing to loose and many having revenge and hate on the forefront of their mind. MS!# and the Mexican Mafia have already provided a template to do this. This is very dangerous and Geraldo, Colmes and others who think this is a good Idea aren’t looking past their beliefs and left leaning weakness toward war being a dirty business and will permit more victims from the war on terror

PS: I was water boarded in POW training….yes it scares you but I don’t consider it torture.
 

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You forgot, I likes the purple kool aid.

How come your boy bush didn't do a damn thing in 8 years bout the ******* invasion?
 

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You forgot, I likes the purple kool aid.

How come your boy bush didn't do a damn thing in 8 years bout the ******* invasion?

Probably because of your parties influance and the stupid Political Correctness that is crippling from the left.....Clinton did nothing either....Do you think Barry will do anything? doubt it with his statements and his pro illegal appointments........but it will be Bush's fault next year and next year and so on, right?
 

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Probably because of your parties influance and the stupid Political Correctness that is crippling from the left.....Clinton did nothing either....Do you think Barry will do anything? doubt it with his statements and his pro illegal appointments........but it will be Bush's fault next year and next year and so on, right?
Wow lame answer there, so bush can get anything done because of "influance"??? sounds like a spinless lil **** if you ask me. Why do you always blame the "left"?? why can you just admit bush is an asshole??

8 fucking years and didn't do a damn thing, sad really.
 

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Wow lame answer there, so bush can get anything done because of "influance"??? sounds like a spinless lil **** if you ask me. Why do you always blame the "left"?? why can you just admit bush is an asshole??

8 fucking years and didn't do a damn thing, sad really.
Your sorry ass and others like you have been safe the past seven years yet all the terrorist attacks that happened under Clintons watch and he sat by......Look at the Somalia Pirate thing going on today....If Clinton would have done what he initially tried to do before he surrendered like a coward, would most likely not be happening today......2-300,000 were slaughtered after he retreated and the county plunged in to a cesspool because we left.

No, I have not liked and many of has said things and discussed things we did not like about Bush and others but your liberal ideas would not be possible with out men like me that have put this county to be in the position we are in.....you would be shot or jailed today in many countries all around the world for what you say......You have no respect, in my opinion, of the greatness of this country!
 

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Wow lame answer there, so bush can get anything done because of "influance"??? sounds like a spinless lil **** if you ask me. Why do you always blame the "left"?? why can you just admit bush is an asshole??

8 fucking years and didn't do a damn thing, sad really.

You have wonderful debating skills, keep typing so we can learn from your vast knowledge bank.


What have you done the past 8 years to curb illegal immigration? Volunteer for border patrol? If you aren't gonna help then just shut up!
 

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What where the votes on those Illegals you must mean this bill that Democrats Blocked
Border Enforcement Specifics:

Add nearly 15,000 additional border protection agents to augment the 20,000 Customs and Border Protection agents already on the job
Specifically authorize 1,250 border agents and 1,250 port-of entry inspection agents
Require Defense Department cooperation on the border, e.g. unmanned drones
Begin the process of securing every inch of our 1,951 mile border with Mexico by building walls and fences in high traffic areas and using sensors to let our Customs and Border Patrol Agents see and hear those who try and cross through low traffic areas
Require fingerprint database connectivity between FBI and Border Patrol
Interior Enforcement specifics:

Increase alien smuggling penalties with a mandatory minimum of 5 years
Add criminal penalties for various immigration-related document fraud
Mandate the use of expedited removal for aliens apprehended within 100 miles of the border and 14 days of entry
Employer Enforcement specifics:

Establish nationwide, mandatory verification program for hiring workers
Limit the number of acceptable hiring documents with REAL ID standards
Authorize 2,000 new worksite enforcement agents and 1,000 anti-fraud agents
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Enforcement, though paramount in this debate, must be balanced with compassion. As I’ve said before, we are a nation founded by immigrants. But we are also a nation founded on the rule of law, and it is imperative that we respect both of these traditions.

I am pleased that this legislation rejects the notion of blanket amnesty for the roughly 11-12 million illegal immigrants currently living in this country. The simple fact is, amnesty rewards people for breaking the law, and that is unacceptable.

This legislation does enable illegal immigrants who have been here longer than 5 years to start down the road towards legal status – but only by beginning at the end of the line, behind those millions around the world who are seeking to enter America legally. And, rest assured, the criteria for citizenship are strict and unyielding. They must:

Pass a national security and criminal background check
Have resided in the U.S. for at least 5 years
Worked a minimum of 3 years of the last 5 in the U.S.
Paid all federal and state taxes
Demonstrated knowledge of English language and American civics requirements
Pay a $2,000 fine, in addition to required application fees
Work for an additional 6 years after enactment to ensure that their status is not adjusted before those who are already in line.
In addition, this legislation would require illegal immigrants who have been here less than 5 years, but more than 2 years, to exit the country with the option to return on a temporary work visa. These people could apply for a green card, but with no guarantee as to a result. And once their work visa expires, they would be required to leave the country.

Finally, this legislation would require illegal immigrants here less than 2 years to return home immediately or risk being deported. Only those who return home would be eligible to begin the same process of applying for a worker visa that every other immigrant needs to legally enter to the U.S.

Whereas the initial immigration bill reported out of the Judiciary Committee last week would have allowed almost ALL of the 11-12 million illegal immigrants to stay in the U.S. and transition to legal status, this bill allows only those who have been here more than 5 years to remain … and embark on a strict and precise path to citizenship.

Those who have been here less then 5 years would be required to exit the country if they ever hope to become American citizens.

As I’ve said before, a government’s 1st responsibility is to protect its borders and ports of entry. This legislation will enable us to uphold that responsibility, and simultaneously send a very clear message to every new American that there is a right way and a wrong way to enter our country.

More to follow in the days ahead.


Written by Bill Frist, M.D.
 

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Your sorry ass and others like you have been safe the past seven years yet all the terrorist attacks that happened under Clintons watch and he sat by......Look at the Somalia Pirate thing going on today....If Clinton would have done what he initially tried to do before he surrendered like a coward, would most likely not be happening today......2-300,000 were slaughtered after he retreated and the county plunged in to a cesspool because we left.

No, I have not liked and many of has said things and discussed things we did not like about Bush and others but your liberal ideas would not be possible with out men like me that have put this county to be in the position we are in.....you would be shot or jailed today in many countries all around the world for what you say......You have no respect, in my opinion, of the greatness of this country!
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So full of factual words for debate and open conversation as always. Thank you for contributing to this site in such and insightful way.......
 

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