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People Call Out Trump’s Hypocrisy On National Emergency With His Own Anti-Obama Tweet
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Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress.

6:36 AM - 20 Nov 2014

https://www.yahoo.com/news/people-call-trump-hypocrisy-national-012119355.html




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If, as seems likely, there is a constitutional challenge to the declaration, it may hinge in part on Trump’s admission in his remarks that,
“I could do the wall over a longer period of time. I didn’t need to do this.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-declares-national-emergency-to-build-a-wall-162757209.html



How is the wall a National Emergency by Trumps own words?
 

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I guess all of Obama's 13 national emergencies are beyond debate.
DACA sounds like a national emergency huh.. How did that impact the country? to declare it a national emergency.
 

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Paul Ryan could have put boarder funding through the House, much earlier than the token vote taken just before the Dems. took the House. Ryan seems like a nice guy, but he is a weeny, just like his predecessor. The Dems. continue to resist even basic needs like the wall. President Trump is using whatever legal powers he can, to stop the thousands of good, bad and ugly people storming the boarder in caravans funded by people and organizations that hate America. They, just like the Muslims, want to use our freedoms to take over the USA. The Dems., now Socialists/Communists, are going along with all of this crap.
 

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The wall should have been done a long time ago....when I went to High School the yearbook was 90% Caucasian. Same High School is now 10% Caucasian and the other ethnicities have their own gated entrance...a Caucasian and a black went thru the gate and a riot broke out with 13 police cars on school grounds....and yes I still mow my own lawn.

Compare what the wall costs to what we give in schooling, health care and food....who do you think pays when an illegal has a baby?
 

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I guess all of Obama's 13 national emergencies are beyond debate.
DACA sounds like a national emergency huh.. How did that impact the country? to declare it a national emergency.
Obama is not the current President nor making decisions now. If there were problems, I'm sure they were discussed.

Regardless of that being irrelevant, Your take is, it justifies whatever Trump does, even when it's as absurd as the wall being his National Emergency?
Did you miss the part where Trump says he didn't need to do it right now? How do you consider it an emergency?
None of Trumps reasons are valid for the wall. Fewer border crossing than the past, less crime and drug traffic problem is much more of a problem at ports of entry.
Look at the case of El Chapo. NONE of the ways he brought drugs into this country would have been prevented by Trumps wall.
Trump had two years of having a Republican House and Senate and couldn't get it through then. Why do you suppose that was?

Some things regarding Trump or Obama could be debated about which was more right. This is not even close and I'm surprised anyone tries to justify the matter.
Maybe not surprised with you.
 

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The wall should have been done a long time ago....when I went to High School the yearbook was 90% Caucasian. Same High School is now 10% Caucasian and the other ethnicities have their own gated entrance...a Caucasian and a black went thru the gate and a riot broke out with 13 police cars on school grounds....and yes I still mow my own lawn.

Compare what the wall costs to what we give in schooling, health care and food....who do you think pays when an illegal has a baby?
Sorry, you lost me on, "A Caucasian and a black went thru the gate and a riot broke out with 13 police cars."
13 Police cars had a riot?

I'm not going to tell you what you should study up on, so I'll tell you the vast majority of illegals came into this country legally on a Visa and just stayed. That's where the problem lies.
A wall would have not prevented any of those.
Most of the illegals work and don't ask for anything unreasonable. Most pay into a Social Security that they will never receive anything from.
There are exceptions, but don't think there aren't American Caucasian that don't take advantage of the system too.

I'm not sure what you mowing the yard has to do the wall. I don't, and it looks better for it.
 

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Paul Ryan could have put boarder funding through the House, much earlier than the token vote taken just before the Dems. took the House. Ryan seems like a nice guy, but he is a weeny, just like his predecessor. The Dems. continue to resist even basic needs like the wall. President Trump is using whatever legal powers he can, to stop the thousands of good, bad and ugly people storming the boarder in caravans funded by people and organizations that hate America. They, just like the Muslims, want to use our freedoms to take over the USA. The Dems., now Socialists/Communists, are going along with all of this crap.

:)Rant:)Rant:)Rant:)Rant
You are such a bundle of joy with hate and anger. Every time you post it's more foolish than the time before with nothing to support what you say.
You seem angry at everyone, and no, all of "THOSE PEOPLE" don't hate America.
ARE YOU ANGRY WITH YOUR DOG TOO?
 

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Sorry, you lost me on, "A Caucasian and a black went thru the gate and a riot broke out with 13 police cars."
13 Police cars had a riot?

I'm not going to tell you what you should study up on, so I'll tell you the vast majority of illegals came into this country legally on a Visa and just stayed. That's where the problem lies.
A wall would have not prevented any of those.
Most of the illegals work and don't ask for anything unreasonable. Most pay into a Social Security that they will never receive anything from.
There are exceptions, but don't think there aren't American Caucasian that don't take advantage of the system too.

I'm not sure what you mowing the yard has to do the wall. I don't, and it looks better for it.
riot broke out with 13 police cars showing up on school grounds
Fixed for the resident idiot
 

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So just recently when 150 border agents had to form a line in Texas at the Rio Grande to keep a Caravan out they were taken away from their normal posts....I wonder how many illegals were able to enter at their empty posts?
 

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sorry, you lost me on, "a caucasian and a black went thru the gate and a riot broke out with 13 police cars."
13 police cars had a riot?

I'm not going to tell you what you should study up on,so don't so i'll tell you the vast majority of illegals came into this country legally on a visa and just stayed. That's where the problem lies. so you think caravans are going to stop after crossing and turn themselves in?
a wall would have not prevented any of those.
Most of the illegals work and don't ask for anything unreasonable. Most pay into a social securitybullshit!...i am sure when the home depot parking lot boys get paid cash they pay into social security...lol that they will never receive anything from.
There are exceptions, but don't think there aren't american caucasian that don't take advantage of the system too.

I'm not sure what you mowing the yard has to do the wall.i like mowing mine and if you really think all gardeners take taxes out of their workers that just proves your stupidity i don't, and it looks better for it.
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riot broke out with 13 police cars showing up on school grounds
Fixed for the resident idiot
hil:)hil:)hil:)
Thank you for fixing it for the resident idiot, who wrote it.
However, what does the caucasian and black have to do with your story? It still doesn't make sense.
 

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Originally Posted by jimsplace
sorry, you lost me on, "a caucasian and a black went thru the gate and a riot broke out with 13 police cars."
13 police cars had a riot?

I'm not going to tell you what you should study up on,so don't so i'll tell you the vast majority of illegals came into this country legally on a visa and just stayed. That's where the problem lies. so you think caravans are going to stop after crossing and turn themselves in?
a wall would have not prevented any of those.
Most of the illegals work and don't ask for anything unreasonable. Most pay into a social securitybullshit!...i am sure when the home depot parking lot boys get paid cash they pay into social security...lol that they will never receive anything from.
There are exceptions, but don't think there aren't american caucasian that don't take advantage of the system too.

I'm not sure what you mowing the yard has to do the wall.i like mowing mine and if you really think all gardeners take taxes out of their workers that just proves your stupidity i don't, and it looks better for it.






of illegals

so don't
There has never been any doubt that you don't want the truth or learn what's happening. So you just make up shit.

so you think caravans are going to stop after crossing and turn themselves in?
Again, how can you not understand what's happening? The individuals in the Caravans nearly always go to a Port of Entry, and those who don't seek out the Border Patrol to register for asylum.
How can you not know that?

bullshit!...i am sure when the home depot parking lot boys get paid cash they pay into social security...lol
AND AGAIN, you apparently lack even the most basic knowledge of what is happening. As I said before, the vast majority of illegals came into this country legally on a visa and just stayed, or overstayed if that makes it more clear.
There are those who crossed illegally, but they are in the minority.

The vast majority have been in this country for years and got jobs using a green card and just continued working and paying into the system like everyone else.

i like mowing mine and if you really think all gardeners take taxes out of their workers that just proves your stupidity
There is nothing wrong with liking to mow your yard, if that's your thing. I don't think I said anything about all gardeners. That was dumb on your part to try such a stupid cheap shot. That just proves your stupidity.

I doubt that you don't fudge on taxes too. Do you want to say you collect taxes on everything you sell or don't give discounts on cash deals? What about buying for cash and not paying tax?
You're such a DORK!
 

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Jim if your party does/did the same thing. And your excuse for bad mouthing it he is the sitting president. That's a hypocrite. It didn't stop being the same decision once Obama was no longer president.
 

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Attempting to have an intelligent discussion/debate with this Individual is akin to attempting to persuade a WWII jap to surrender, aint gonna happen.
This is the way "Mr. Last Word" is.....if your view doesn't meet his agenda he resorts to name calling.
I bet he got his ass kicked in high school many times....lol
 

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I doubt that you don't fudge on taxes too. Do you want to say you collect taxes on everything you sell or don't give discounts on cash deals? What about buying for cash and not paying tax?
You talk about others getting off topic...what do my taxes have to do with your topic of a National Emergency?

You don't know much about business do you? Try to educate yourself before you speak....Since all of my sales are Credit Card it gets reported to the IRS..Form 1099K...so yes I collect tax, report it and pay the state. Why would I buy for cash when I have a Resale License, write a check, get a receipt so I can deduct it off yearly sales?
 

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Jim if your party does/did the same thing. And your excuse for bad mouthing it he is the sitting president. That's a hypocrite. It didn't stop being the same decision once Obama was no longer president.
Unlike you, I'm not dedicated or obligated to a party.
If using Obama is the justification for what Trump is doing is idiotic. What you're saying is two wrongs makes a right? I don't think so.
I'm not going to rehash what Obama did or didn't do. There were things that I didn't agree with and didn't try to defend them.
Some things I can understand there being differences of opinion, but mostly it related to the less fortunate and how much or who might get helped.
The current President seems to want to punish his enemies or those he dislikes and make the super rich wealthier, in other words, a class society.

The Wall and it being a National Emergency cannot be justified by even the most simple minded individuals. Emergency may have varying degrees of a definition, but Trumps wall doesn't even come close.
 

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So just recently when 150 border agents had to form a line in Texas at the Rio Grande to keep a Caravan out they were taken away from their normal posts....I wonder how many illegals were able to enter at their empty posts?
I think the border agents normal post is the Rio Grande.
 

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You talk about others getting off topic...what do my taxes have to do with your topic of a National Emergency?

You don't know much about business do you? Try to educate yourself before you speak....Since all of my sales are Credit Card it gets reported to the IRS..Form 1099K...so yes I collect tax, report it and pay the state. Why would I buy for cash when I have a Resale License, write a check, get a receipt so I can deduct it off yearly sales?

You're the one who brought up taxes. Your post -- "If you really think all gardeners take taxes out of their workers"


So you buy NOTHING for cash and ALL of your sales are credit card. BULLSHIT
You may collect tax, but is it all reported?
YOU'D BE ABOUT THE ONLY ONE.

I don't expect you to say otherwise on line, that would make you dumber than I think of you now.
 
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