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What's the best in the South Orange/ San Diego area? Looking for something nice. Going for a week next month. Looking for something that might be upscale and off the radar.

Ritz Laguna Niguel
Montage
Monarch
St Regis
La Costa

How about Santa Barbara?

Anybody ever been to Bacara?
 
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Can't go wrong with the Ritz. Be prepared to lay down some coin, nothings cheap there.
 

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What's the best in the South Orange/ San Diego area? Looking for something nice. Going for a week next month. Looking for something that might be upscale and off the radar.

Ritz Laguna Niguel
Montage
Monarch
St Regis
La Costa

How about Santa Barbara?

Anybody ever been to Bacara?
I can only vouch for the St. Regis. That place is off the charts. The service there is the best I've experienced anywhere I've ever been. From the valet taking your car away on your arrival to the minute the bellman puts your bags in your car for your departure you are treated like royalty.
 

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Bacara is FABULOUS!!!! Another place I love is in Mission Bay of SD.... called Paradise Point... literally feels like your in Hawaii!!!
 

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Can't go wrong with the Ritz. Be prepared to lay down some coin, nothings cheap there.
Been to Ritz here and there from here to Naples and you're right....can't go wrong with it. Hoping there are some nice "up to date" resorts that I don't know about.
 

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Must have a nice pool.
 

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Bacara is nice but if you ask me not worth the money. Worked there for six months doing construction defect work so I wouldn't stay there.
 

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Paradise point.com

check it out... you NEVER have to leave the grounds the place is HUGE has a restraunts, bars, beach front, BEAUTIFUL pool, with cabana boys to take your food & drink orders... it is and will always be one of the best hidden gems!!!
 

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WTF?

Hotel Del Coronado
 

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Surf and Sand is my favorite place down there. Excellent pool/hot tub, rooms are nice, great service, plus FREE cocktails with hors dourves on friday nights on the front patio area.:)sphss
 

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Not good for the St. Regis.

http://financialcollapse.blogspot.com/2009/06/st-regis-monarch-beach-schedule-for.html

Jun 10, 2009
The St. Regis Monarch Beach schedule for a Foreclosure Auction!

The St. Regis Monarch Beach, infamous as the hotel where American International Group sponsored a luxury retreat just days after accepting a federal bailout, has been scheduled for a foreclosure auction.

The companies that own the resort are in default on a $70-million loan from Citigroup Global Markets Realty Group, people knowledgeable about the debt said Tuesday.

Negotiations continue in an effort to avoid an auction, according to those sources. But unless something is worked out, the St. Regis will go on the block July 7, to be sold to the highest bidder, according to a "terms of public sale" document obtained by The Times.

The resort's troubles come as the recession and credit crunch have hammered the hotel industry, depressing room rates and occupancy levels and making loans all but impossible for hotel owners to get.

Resorts like the St. Regis, which cater to wealthy travelers and the high-end corporate retreat business, have seen some of the steepest declines in revenue.

Business is so bad -- and funding so expensive -- that hardly any hotels are being sold these days, and most are now worth 50% to 80% less than at the peak, said hotel broker Alan X. Reay of Atlas Hospitality Group in Costa Mesa.

Just this week, Sunstone Hotel Investors Inc. said it would turn the trendy W Hotel in downtown San Diego over to its lenders, part of a growing trend that Reay said was a "bloodbath."

The St. Regis -- which has several restaurants, a golf course and a private beach club -- has been hit by a steep drop in bookings, according to the people with knowledge of the situation.

Built by the Makarechian development family of Newport Beach, the property is current, for now, on two other mortgages totaling $230 million on the 400-room hotel and golf course, these people said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.

When the Makarechians and their partners, including San Francisco's Farralon Capital hedge fund, refinanced the property and incurred $300 million in debt in 2007, credit markets had not yet seized up and the hotel's revenues were high enough to support the payments.

But that's no longer the case, these people said. Neither Citigroup nor representatives of the St. Regis would comment on the record.

The St. Regis always aimed to satisfy the smallest whims of wealthy people and high-end corporate travelers.

Before the hotel opened in 2001, Paul Makarechian, the 27-year-old scion overseeing non-residential projects for the family, took The Times on a tour, pointing out sweeping tapestries, elaborately stitched duvet covers matching fabric-draped headboards -- even motion sensors so employees would know without knocking if guests were present.

"If you're going to build a five-star luxury resort hotel that will outdo every other deluxe hotel on the planet, you don't scrimp on sheets," he said. "You don't scrimp on anything."

But in these times, perhaps a bit more austerity is in order.

Although the St. Regis is not directly on the waterfront, the Pacific Ocean is visible from its six restaurants and it boasts a five-star Mobil Travel Guide rating, compared with four stars for the nearby Ritz-Carlton and Montage resorts.

Guests can take a shuttle across the golf course to a private ocean-front club at Monarch Beach, the northernmost stretch of Dana Point, where they can sip cocktails after taking surfing lessons.

The St. Regis became something of an emblem of corporate excess and greed last October, as the global financial system was threatening to melt down.

The taint arrived by association with AIG, the giant New York insurer that, because of massive wrong-way bets on the mortgage markets, became the largest recipient of bailout money from the federal government.

Just weeks after receiving its first $85 billion in federal funds, AIG shelled out more than $440,000 at the St. Regis for rooms, wining and dining, spa treatments and rounds of golf to reward 100 top salespeople.

The Presidential Suite, which normally goes for $3,200, was booked for five nights, The Times reported.

The event was widely vilified and lampooned, and bookings at the St. Regis dropped by 20% in the months following it, St. Regis marketing director Michael Mustafa told Hotels Magazine.

By Mustafa's estimate, about a third of the drop-off was attributable to what the magazine termed the "AIG curse."

"My phone started ringing off the hook," Mustafa recalled. "That was the worst week of my life."

At the St. Regis, managers couldn't be reached for comment Tuesday. But it appeared the debt problem would not directly affect resort visitors. The Citigroup real estate arm is pursuing what is known as a non-judicial foreclosure, meaning no sheriff's deputies nailing notices to the hotel walls or sales on the courthouse steps.

Instead, the auction is to be held at First American Title Co. in Santa Ana.

Bidders would be vying for the hotel and golf course, but not the surrounding residential areas, including a yet-to-be-developed parcel on the hotel's south flank, which is owned separately by the Makarechian-Farralon partnership.

Citigroup itself is allowed to bid, according to the "terms of public sale" document. The Makarechians and partners also are likely to enter bids.

The package to be sold includes the obligation to pay the $230 million in senior mortgages on the property.
 

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Montage is excellent. You may even run into some celebs. A few restaurant options and dif. places to hangout. For Sunday brunch, drive a couple miles to Cannon's in Dana Point. Overlooks the marina.
 
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