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Hi, I just purchased my first boat, more of a project actually. And have several questions.




First question, the title says 1973 Rogers, 15'. But the tape measure says 17'-8" from one end to the other of the hull. So what do I have? The number on the title matches the number painted on the boat. Is there another number somewhere that might not match? Also does anyone know what model it is?

Second, when we crawled under it, one of the fins on the side of the intake is broken. Obviously the last person tha painted it, didn't think it mattered, but what do you say? I read a few threads on how to remove and replace it, but it sounds like a lot of work. I'll do it if I need to, but are there any other options, or how important is that part?







We have started sanding it to get ready for fresh paint. How do we turn it over to do the bottom? Everyone says they turned theirs over, but I haven't found anyone who said how. Can we just roll it over on the grass, or will we risk breaking the fiberglass?
 

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You NEED to replace you intake.
There's an advantage 18 build thread on here by a guy name holorinhal...
I think that's his name. Anyhow probably all kinds of tips for your rebuild in there including how to roll your boat over. If I wasn't on my phone I'd find the link for you
 

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The intake looks pretty grim (fins) and could use replacement or repair , no need to turn the boat unless you plan bottom work , simply remove the intake (Folks here can help explain) and after repair or exchange , reinstall and rebed it Pretty simple more mostly "grunt" work and cleanup Call if we can help
 

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Looks like a super cyclone 17'10". but would need more pictures. sides and transom.
 

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http://www.performanceboats.com/jet-boats/10678-73-kona-resto-build-ii-2.html

http://www.performanceboats.com/jet-boats/107904-18-advantage-bubledeck-project-9.html

These are Hal's Kona and Advantage builds. He did an awesome job of documenting what he did.
The Kona thread has a pretty cool way he flipped the hull. Some guys just put some tires down on the ground and lift the hull on it's side and flip it. Some guys have used a couple of engine hoists.

There are alot of other threads that cover flipping the hull and R/R the intake. Just use the search option.

Is there a hull ID # in the upper right corner of the transom? 3 letters followed by about 7 #'s? That # might be able to get you some info about the hull.

Good luck with it.
 

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if your going to replace the intake , learn about the following terms ,setback, shoe , rideplate. decide what you want (speed) out of your boat.
 

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Thanks for the links and tips. I'll start looking for a new intake.

I'll get a couple more pics tonight when I get home so maybe someone can identify it.

Would that number on the trsnsom be inside? I don't remember seeing anything on the outside.
 

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Good boat to start with, I like mine. I know its not the Bonneville, does look like the Cyclone. 17'10" is right, my numbers are on transom upper right.

Personally I would pay the $1k to have my intake done by those who do it all the time. Everything else I've done myself.

Enjoy :thumb:
 

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Ok. First, here is a picture of the transom.


I can't find any numbers inside or outside. There are some screw holes, like there used to be a tag or something on there.
 

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if your going to replace the intake , learn about the following terms ,setback, shoe , rideplate. decide what you want (speed) out of your boat.
I've been searching and reading. It is going to be a family play boat, so ultimate speed isn't as important as reliability, and ease of use for the wife and kids.
I don't see setting the jet back, or adding a loader. I can see prepping the shaft for an inducer while its apart, even if I don't add it now.
But if I have to pull the Intake maybe I should go ahead and machine it for a ride plate (I have a mill in the garage so the cost would be $0.00 for machining, just the cost of the plate.).

The motor will be a 450-500 HP small block LS chevy.
 

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looks to be a rogers super cyclone. it is basically a flat deck with a bonneville bottom. I have a 73 rogers Cyclone and my HIN is stamped into the hull on the upper right hand side. since the boat has been capped it was probably been filled in.
 

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I agree ,if speed isn't huge to you I wouldn't set it back. rogers are already partially setback. do the shoe and ride plate. I don't think you can machine the pump shaft without putting the inducer on the shaft or the impeller wouldn't stack up right. rogers are great boats ,I love mine. kinda wish I had a good reason to pull my intake for shoe & plate . :))THumbsUp
 

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looks to be a rogers super cyclone. it is basically a flat deck with a bonneville bottom. I have a 73 rogers Cyclone and my HIN is stamped into the hull on the upper right hand side. since the boat has been capped it was probably been filled in.
Ok.. now that I read what 'capped' is, I understand your comment. And I thought I was too old to learn anything.

Anyone else care to chime in on if it is a Cyclone or Super Cyclone ? I have ruled out the Bonnevile since the deck is flat, but is there a way to confirm which of the other two it might be?

oh, and in my search for a replacement intake, are there different types? or is a Berkeley intake a Berkeley intake?

Thanks.
 

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Ok.. now that I read what 'capped' is, I understand your comment. And I thought I was too old to learn anything.

Anyone else care to chime in on if it is a Cyclone or Super Cyclone ? I have ruled out the Bonnevile since the deck is flat, but is there a way to confirm which of the other two it might be?

oh, and in my search for a replacement intake, are there different types? or is a Berkeley intake a Berkeley intake?

Thanks.
Theres a difference. Many brands, standard, low profile, machined for shoe/ride plate, stock, intake for flat keel, intake for radius'd keel. Better do more homework, there are plenty of pics of the different types on here, just do a quick search. I would venture to guess yours is a stock Berkeley intake for radius'd keel.
 

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Congrats on the purchase! Now that the pump and motor or out would be a great time to replace that intake and do the shoe and ride plate thing. The pros in doing so are many.
 

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It is definatly getting the Shoe & Rideplate done while the Intake is out.

Any reason not to have the existing Intake repaired? I know a really good welder, so that's not going to be a problem.

Still would like to find a way to confirm whether it is a Cyclone or Super Cyclone.
 

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Anyone else care to chime in on if it is a Cyclone or Super Cyclone ? I have ruled out the Bonnevile since the deck is flat, but is there a way to confirm which of the other two it might be?
It appears to be a super cyclone. The cyclone had a deeper vee then the super cyclone.
 
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