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Just when you thought he wouldn't do more damage in an election year. Oh sure, they are denying it's a real proposal but the simple fact is that they have already discussed how the new government office known as the "Surface Transportation Revenue Alternatives Office" will be established in conjunction with this new tax. With over 1000 Federal offices/agencies who believes it's wise to create more instead of cutting many of them?

Obama administration floats draft plan to tax cars by the mile - The Hill's Floor Action
 

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Hasn't something like this been proposed and shot down a few times in the past.

The problem with this government's mindset (this goes way way deeper than the Prez) is they won't be happy until they intrude in and regulate every friggin thing in people's lives. Especially those things they can impose more tax on. They can't close the purse strings in any meaningful manner so the answer it just tax the shit out of citizens until the country falls into socialism by circumstance of no one being able to survive much less prosper without being on some form of government assistance. I'm really down on our governments direction and its not a party line thing at all. Few in Congress "get it", far too few to change the course presently.
 

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Oh I belive it even know we allready are being taxed by the mile every time you stop at the pump,This would be just great for my wife and I,my wife HAS to travel from one shop to the other now with her cut backs and Im driving anyware I can for work so again Zero fucks the average joe.
 

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You will find the insurance companies are behind this. Dig a bit deeper and you will find Soros money invested in the insurance business. Look no further than Progressive Insuarnce and those little plugin recorders.
 

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Long over due. We already pay gas tax, but you already knew that. A more efficient and effective tax based on mile driven and weight of the vehicle would make much more sense.
 

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Long over due. We already pay gas tax, but you already knew that. A more efficient and effective tax based on mile driven and weight of the vehicle would make much more sense.
Only if all taxes on tires, gas, and all other transportation taxes is removed. But that will never happen so it's just another in a long lists of taxes they want to add so they don't have to cut wasteful spending.:duh:
 

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I dont' know about all transportation taxes, but certainly the fuel taxes should be altered. A phase in period would work best. And yes, wasteful spending needs to be cut.
 

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State & Federal governments have no intention of eliminating other taxes to implement this stupid tax plan. In addition to drivers being taxed, other entitys will suffer the consequences of reduced road travel. Motels, hotels, restaurants,and any other travel related small business. Very bad idea, but to be expected from the socialists we have in government.
 

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Personally, I'm NOT OK with the Gov. tracking my miles or driving habits/ movements.
For any reason.
 

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Personally, I'm NOT OK with the Gov. tracking my miles or driving habits/ movements.
For any reason.




Ding, Ding, Ding We have a winner folks!!!!!!!​
 

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I dont' know about all transportation taxes, but certainly the fuel taxes should be altered. A phase in period would work best. And yes, wasteful spending needs to be cut.
The biggest problem with this tax idea is it will be no different than all the other transportation taxes we pay. All the transportation taxes are supposed to be used for building and maintaining of transportation infrastructure. With the amout of tax's they collect for transportation we should have pristine roads and bridges, etc. And wasn't the stimulus suposed to create all these shovel ready jobs for transportation infrastructure ? What happened with that ? The bottom line is this is nothing but another idea by O and the libs to make up for thier horrendous spending without having to clean house.
 

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Long over due. We already pay gas tax, but you already knew that. A more efficient and effective tax based on mile driven and weight of the vehicle would make much more sense.

I know this is against the forum rules, but you are a fucking idiot.
 

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I know this is against the forum rules, but you are a fucking idiot.
No, you're the fucking idiot if you think what Rod described isn't the most logical way to handle the situation. You are an excellent example of why righty sheep are considered stupid by intelligent people.:)hand
 

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No, you're the fucking idiot if you think what Rod described isn't the most logical way to handle the situation. You are an excellent example of why righty sheep are considered stupid by intelligent people.:)hand
I am surprised that you would be in favor of having your driving habits tracked by the Fed. Gov.

How is that at all "logical"?
 

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No, you're the fucking idiot if you think what Rod described isn't the most logical way to handle the situation. You are an excellent example of why righty sheep are considered stupid by intelligent people.:)hand
How the fuck would you know what intelligent people consider others. Did you talk to one ? Only you and Rod would agree that another tax for driving your car and the Gov keeping track of your mileage is good idea. intelligent people would rather see the system cleaned up and the taxes they already pay for said services actually used for said services. Only idiots think it is a good idea to impose more taxes to make up for the gov outrageous spending habits.:)hand:cuckoo::kissit::kissit:
 

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No, you're the fucking idiot if you think what Rod described isn't the most logical way to handle the situation. You are an excellent example of why righty sheep are considered stupid by intelligent people.:)hand
What "situation"?, please enlighten me to the "situation" that involves the overlords to see to it to track my driving milages.
 

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I am surprised that you would be in favor of having your driving habits tracked by the Fed. Gov.

How is that at all "logical"?
Let's look at this ignoring irrational fear first, shall we?
1) By tracking driving habits, transportation engineers can more accurately design better transportation systems to move people. You probably don't have any idea of exactly how much engineering goes into designing transportation, but it would amaze you. This has the potential to revolutionize the way engineers design transportation sytems here in the US.
2) Transportation taxes are charged on a per gallon basis right now. Because of this, transportation tax collected is going down as mpg goes up. That sounds great except when you realize these taxes actually do pay for the upkeep and maintenance of our roads. If you have driven on the socal freeways lately, you would know that the upkeep of these roads has not been done properly.
3) This could lower taxes for people that drive low mpg vehicles because as it is now, these people pay the most transportation tax, while the high mpg vehicle owners pay the least on a per mile basis.
4) There has to be a way put in place so electric vehicle drivers pay road tax. The same for natural gas vehicle owners and people that converted their diesel to run on vegetable oil. The way the system is set up right now, these people can get away without paying any transportation taxes.


Now to address your concerns of the government tracking your driving habits. The government already can track you with that smart phone you have in your pocket Tommy. There is no hiding from the government. Sorry to dissapoint you, but that cat is already out of the bag. Plus most new cars already have transponders in them so the government could already track you if they wanted to Tommy.
 

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Long over due. We already pay gas tax, but you already knew that. A more efficient and effective tax based on mile driven and weight of the vehicle would make much more sense.
California already has a tax for weight and use.
In addition to the 56.1 cent per gallon fuel taxes.

The Fed's collect a tidy per gallon tax of 18.4 cents already.

What amount would be appropriate?
 

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Personally, I'm NOT OK with the Gov. tracking my miles or driving habits/ movements.
For any reason.

Agreed 100%.
What "situation"?, please enlighten me to the "situation" that involves the overlords to see to it to track my driving milages.

Hmmmmm??? What are you shady characters doing that is so secret you don't want anyone to know about ????????? :)Unsure

Don't many corporations / government already put GPS on their vehicles for all the right reasons like safety, prevent crime, and efficency?
Get used to drones, GPS, cameras, little black boxes, internet data collection, etc, etc...
Corporate Fascist Amurika is no longer going to tolerate too much serf freedom anymore ....
The Libertarian Party is the only party who will not support this type of tracking. But you righties blindly support Romney who does and will. So quit complaining :duh:



 
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