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Ok, I have a 454, no idea what compression ratio. I use a car starter, and the thing barely cranks. It is a bottom mount and occasionally does get a little wet, but it barely cranked even when it was new. When you remove it from the engine and hot wire it with no load it spins freely and fast. My power to the boat is ran through the starter relay. Is that normal? Or should I run another wire to the battery for the boat power? Also what is everyone's opinion on the Hi-Torque Hitachi style starters? I saw some on ebay for $80. My buddy has one, not in a boat, and it works well.

Oh and I am way to poor to buy a new housing to run a top mount starter.
 

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clean the block where the starter bolts on, and also the ground wire attach point. Nothing wrong with car type starters, unless dealing with scape issues. Mini starters are better looking, work great when new, but can give you fitts, if it does get wet. Ask a round on the minis, and get some feed back on them, some are great, good, and junk.
 

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You can also add a starter relay whitch helps alot! The power goes from the battery to the front then to the back of the boat to power the starter! This is a long ways and could have voltage drop. Also what is the timing set on? High timing will also cause starter drag! Hope you get it fixed! WT:)devil

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You can also add a starter relay whitch helps alot! The power goes from the battery to the front then to the back of the boat to power the starter! This is a long ways and could have voltage drop. Also what is the timing set on? High timing will also cause starter drag! Hope you get it fixed! WT:)devil

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Not sure what the timing is at. I never put a gun to it. The thing runs fine since the day I got it. It usually starts almost immediately with just 1-3 cranks. I don't know if the starter relay you are mentioning would be favorable for my boat. All of my power connections are on a distribution power block located next to the engine. I don't think it would make much sense in my case to run wire all the way to the front and risk a voltage drop.
 

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Ok, I have a 454, no idea what compression ratio. I use a car starter, and the thing barely cranks. It is a bottom mount and occasionally does get a little wet, but it barely cranked even when it was new. When you remove it from the engine and hot wire it with no load it spins freely and fast. My power to the boat is ran through the starter relay. Is that normal? Or should I run another wire to the battery for the boat power? Also what is everyone's opinion on the Hi-Torque Hitachi style starters? I saw some on ebay for $80. My buddy has one, not in a boat, and it works well.

Oh and I am way to poor to buy a new housing to run a top mount starter.
Get a new starter solenoid, 00 wire, Woludn't hurt to try to insulate that water issue.............. and I runa cheap a$$ duralast with 14.3 to one compression and it wings that motor over like a blender. And yes it really is 14.3 and it works just fine :p I know what you guys are thinking :D
 

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2-gauge wire is plenty since the run is so short, no need to go to 2/0, but it won't hurt anything.

Clean ALL Connections, as well as the starter mount point.
I would replace all the wires. They can corrode under the insulation, which increases resistance.

The starter spinning great in the garage floor means almost nothing.
 
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