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Lets see if money flows to Newt now? Still a lot of folks who don't want a liberal running as the GOP candidate.
 

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Lets see if money flows to Newt now? Still a lot of folks who don't want a liberal running as the GOP candidate.
Never happen. Newt is 5 million in the hole. He is going to ask (beg) Romney to cover his debt and then agree to drop out.. Watch!
 

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Lets see if money flows to Newt now? Still a lot of folks who don't want a liberal running as the GOP candidate.
That's precisely why I support Mitt for president. Liberals suck and he's proven to be anything but a liberal from the time he stepped into a hornet's nest in Massachusetts where he not only balanced budgets and left a surplus on his departure, but where he had the tact, courage and wisdom to reach across the aisle and work with all parties to achieve a great deal of legislation that benefited his constituents. He's everything the Kenyan is not.
He loves the constitution.
He loves and is inspired by our founding fathers.
He supports our military.
He is a fiscal conservative who balances budgets.
He wants to bolster America to greatness.
He wants the taxpayers of America to be relieved of the burden of carrying the government.
He wants to shrink the government and it's associated costs.
He wants to reduce our debt.
He wants to reduce our dependence upon foreign products - oil especially!
He wants to put America back to work.
He is a man of real identifiable faith and a man with strong convictions to his faith.
He wants to turn our country back around to the greatest nation on earth.

Everything the Kenyan does not want! Everything!
 

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That's precisely why I support Mitt for president. Liberals suck and he's proven to be anything but a liberal from the time he stepped into a hornet's nest in Massachusetts where he not only balanced budgets and left a surplus on his departure, but where he had the tact, courage and wisdom to reach across the aisle and work with all parties to achieve a great deal of legislation that benefited his constituents. He's everything the Kenyan is not.
He loves the constitution.
He loves and is inspired by our founding fathers.
He supports our military.
He is a fiscal conservative who balances budgets.
He wants to bolster America to greatness.
He wants the taxpayers of America to be relieved of the burden of carrying the government.
He wants to shrink the government and it's associated costs.
He wants to reduce our debt.
He wants to reduce our dependence upon foreign products - oil especially!
He wants to put America back to work.
He is a man of real identifiable faith and a man with strong convictions to his faith.
He wants to turn our country back around to the greatest nation on earth.

Everything the Kenyan does not want! Everything!
I like the guy as well.

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That's precisely why I support Mitt for president. Liberals suck and he's proven to be anything but a liberal from the time he stepped into a hornet's nest in Massachusetts where he not only balanced budgets and left a surplus on his departure, but where he had the tact, courage and wisdom to reach across the aisle and work with all parties to achieve a great deal of legislation that benefited his constituents. He's everything the Kenyan is not.
He loves the constitution.
He loves and is inspired by our founding fathers.
He supports our military.
He is a fiscal conservative who balances budgets.
He wants to bolster America to greatness.
He wants the taxpayers of America to be relieved of the burden of carrying the government.
He wants to shrink the government and it's associated costs.
He wants to reduce our debt.
He wants to reduce our dependence upon foreign products - oil especially!
He wants to put America back to work.
He is a man of real identifiable faith and a man with strong convictions to his faith.
He wants to turn our country back around to the greatest nation on earth.

Everything the Kenyan does not want! Everything!

Really? Come on man! Obama said all of the same things, then look what happened. Mitt's track record is what counts and his track record is very inconsistent with what he "believes" in today.

Mitt Romney: Serial Hypocrisy - Ron Paul Ad - YouTube
 

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That's precisely why I support Mitt for president NOW.
What are you and the rest going to say when he starts moving toward the center to become more electable? Probably nothing, you will toe the mark just like the rest of them because it is anybody but Obama. Mitt will be the next Reagan until November 6, 2012.
 

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What are you and the rest going to say when he starts moving toward the center to become more electable? Probably nothing, you will toe the mark just like the rest of them because it is anybody but Obama. Mitt will be the next Reagan until November 6, 2012.
Because anybody but Obama can do a better job.
 

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Hell at this point we ALL know Zero is just that,and if you think 5 trillions alot just give him 4 more years,hell Id vote for the next door neighbors illegal gardener,at least he know how to run a Co.and he wouldn't be the first Pres without papers
 

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What are you and the rest going to say when he starts moving toward the center to become more electable? Probably nothing, you will toe the mark just like the rest of them because it is anybody but Obama. Mitt will be the next Reagan until November 6, 2012.
Who knows. What are you going to say when they toss out the HC bill ? :D
 

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Really? Come on man! Obama said all of the same things, then look what happened. Mitt's track record is what counts and his track record is very inconsistent with what he "believes" in today.
I tend to agree with this assessment. It feels like were stuck with another John McCain. John couldn't win because he was not charismatic. Well neither is Mitt. He's as boring as watching corn grow. He also comes off as having to borrow someone else's balls because he won't open up and speak to what "he" actually did. People vote for Presidents because they are engaging. A buffoon like Obama was elected because he was popular, certainly not because he was qualified. Mitt needs to find a way become engaging. More and more voters could careless about the issues. When Mitt has 10,000,000 fans on Facebook you'll know his message is getting out.
 

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Mitt's track record is what counts and his track record is very inconsistent with what he "believes" in today.
I'll respectfully disagree.
By the time Mitt Romney took office as governor of Massachusetts, the current budget was running a deficit of approximately half a billion dollars, with about $650 million of deficit spending left to go before that budget expired. And the upcoming state budget for the year would have a deficit of nearly $3 billion if the budget was not cut or taxes increased.
Governor Romney held firm and balanced the budget every year without raising taxes. He fought to roll back the state income tax from 5.3% to 5.0% and created budgets based on a 5% income tax rate. The legislature refused to reduce the tax rate, and by the end of his term, he had taken "Massachusetts from billions in deficit to billions in surplus" THAT'S TRACK RECORD FACT!!

He was able to get income tax cuts for many of those with the greatest need for tax relief. For example, in order to aid older homeowners and young families, he created an $800 tax deduction for home heating expenses for individuals with less than $50,000/year income or families making less than $75,000/year. THAT'S TRACK RECORD FACT!!

"Romney stayed away from broad-based fee increases such as driver's-license registrations." He says that balancing the budget without a tax hike has been his most significant accomplishment as governor. "We couldn't be happier with him," says Barbara Anderson of Citizens for Limited Taxation, the state's leading taxpayer group. Steve Adams of Boston's Pioneer Institute, a think tank, concurs: "Without Romney, we would have been slapped with a lot of new taxes." ” THAT'S TRACK RECORD FACT!!

Under the governor's leadership, the people in the state benefited not only by increased employment through the creation of tens of thousands of new jobs and not having their taxes raised, but they also saw several more tax cuts by the governor. THAT'S TRACK RECORD FACT!!

“He cut capital gains taxes, benefiting well over 150,000 residents. Thousands more are currently benefiting from new jobs in the biotech field because of Romney's manufacturing tax relief and because he made the investment tax credit permanent. Thousands of Massachusetts families saved their hard-earned dollars when Romney enacted sales tax holidays. Seniors are benefiting from property tax relief proposed and signed into law by Romney. Our honorable veterans and National Guard members have several new tax breaks because of Romney's belief that they should be taxed less. Commuters can now deduct expenses for travel because Romney believes they shouldn't be penalized for helping increase commerce.” THAT'S TRACK RECORD FACT!!

Romney did sign the health care bill the overwhelmingly democrat controlled house and senate of Massachusetts instituted. In fall 2005 the House and Senate each passed health care insurance reform bills. The legislature made a number of changes to Governor Romney's original proposal, including expanding MassHealth (Medicaid and SCHIP) coverage to low-income children and restoring funding for public health programs. The most controversial change was the addition of a provision which requires firms with 11 or more workers that do not provide "fair and reasonable" health coverage to their workers to pay an annual penalty. This contribution, initially $295 annually per worker, is intended to equalize the free care pool charges imposed on employers who do and do not cover their workers.
On April 12, 2006, Governor Mitt Romney signed the health legislation. Romney vetoed eight sections of the health care legislation, including the controversial employer assessment. Romney also vetoed provisions providing dental benefits to poor residents on the Medicaid program, and providing health coverage to senior and disabled legal immigrants not eligible for federal Medicaid. The legislature promptly overrode six of the eight gubernatorial section vetoes, on May 4, 2006, and by mid-June 2006 had overridden the remaining two. THAT'S TRACK RECORD FACT!!

Should I go on?
 

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I tend to agree with this assessment. It feels like were stuck with another John McCain. John couldn't win because he was not charismatic. Well neither is Mitt. He's as boring as watching corn grow. He also comes off as having to borrow someone else's balls because he won't open up and speak to what "he" actually did. People vote for Presidents because they are engaging. A buffoon like Obama was elected because he was popular, certainly not because he was qualified. Mitt needs to find a way become engaging. More and more voters could careless about the issues. When Mitt has 10,000,000 fans on Facebook you'll know his message is getting out.
Romney is a successful businessman first. McCain is a politician first. I disagree with your comparison.

Honest question? Who would you rather have lead America for the next four years? The Kenyan or the successful businessman with a solid track record of fiscal responsibility and governance for the people?
 

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Romney is a successful businessman first. McCain is a politician first. I disagree with your comparison.

Honest question? Who would you rather have lead America for the next four years? The Kenyan or the successful businessman with a solid track record of fiscal responsibility and governance for the people?
Doc, no need to ask me that question. You know firmly were I stand. The issue is electability. With so many dumb asses out there sucking off our tax dollars and with a new generation of voters who haven't experienced what you and I have, do you think Mitt will connect with these people. He hasn't shown me he is capable of getting out of the Boardroom.
 

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I'll respectfully disagree.
By the time Mitt Romney took office as governor of Massachusetts, the current budget was running a deficit of approximately half a billion dollars, with about $650 million of deficit spending left to go before that budget expired. And the upcoming state budget for the year would have a deficit of nearly $3 billion if the budget was not cut or taxes increased.
Governor Romney held firm and balanced the budget every year without raising taxes. He fought to roll back the state income tax from 5.3% to 5.0% and created budgets based on a 5% income tax rate. The legislature refused to reduce the tax rate, and by the end of his term, he had taken "Massachusetts from billions in deficit to billions in surplus" THAT'S TRACK RECORD FACT!!

He was able to get income tax cuts for many of those with the greatest need for tax relief. For example, in order to aid older homeowners and young families, he created an $800 tax deduction for home heating expenses for individuals with less than $50,000/year income or families making less than $75,000/year. THAT'S TRACK RECORD FACT!!

"Romney stayed away from broad-based fee increases such as driver's-license registrations." He says that balancing the budget without a tax hike has been his most significant accomplishment as governor. "We couldn't be happier with him," says Barbara Anderson of Citizens for Limited Taxation, the state's leading taxpayer group. Steve Adams of Boston's Pioneer Institute, a think tank, concurs: "Without Romney, we would have been slapped with a lot of new taxes." ” THAT'S TRACK RECORD FACT!!

Under the governor's leadership, the people in the state benefited not only by increased employment through the creation of tens of thousands of new jobs and not having their taxes raised, but they also saw several more tax cuts by the governor. THAT'S TRACK RECORD FACT!!

“He cut capital gains taxes, benefiting well over 150,000 residents. Thousands more are currently benefiting from new jobs in the biotech field because of Romney's manufacturing tax relief and because he made the investment tax credit permanent. Thousands of Massachusetts families saved their hard-earned dollars when Romney enacted sales tax holidays. Seniors are benefiting from property tax relief proposed and signed into law by Romney. Our honorable veterans and National Guard members have several new tax breaks because of Romney's belief that they should be taxed less. Commuters can now deduct expenses for travel because Romney believes they shouldn't be penalized for helping increase commerce.” THAT'S TRACK RECORD FACT!!

Romney did sign the health care bill the overwhelmingly democrat controlled house and senate of Massachusetts instituted. In fall 2005 the House and Senate each passed health care insurance reform bills. The legislature made a number of changes to Governor Romney's original proposal, including expanding MassHealth (Medicaid and SCHIP) coverage to low-income children and restoring funding for public health programs. The most controversial change was the addition of a provision which requires firms with 11 or more workers that do not provide "fair and reasonable" health coverage to their workers to pay an annual penalty. This contribution, initially $295 annually per worker, is intended to equalize the free care pool charges imposed on employers who do and do not cover their workers.
On April 12, 2006, Governor Mitt Romney signed the health legislation. Romney vetoed eight sections of the health care legislation, including the controversial employer assessment. Romney also vetoed provisions providing dental benefits to poor residents on the Medicaid program, and providing health coverage to senior and disabled legal immigrants not eligible for federal Medicaid. The legislature promptly overrode six of the eight gubernatorial section vetoes, on May 4, 2006, and by mid-June 2006 had overridden the remaining two. THAT'S TRACK RECORD FACT!!

Should I go on?

Romney has zero concern for the Federal Reserve which is destroying our dollar.

He is supported by the same people that supported Obama, Wall street. He also supported the bail outs:
The following is an excerpt from that article that shows how much money employees of those banks (and their spouses) gave to various candidates for president during the first 9 months of 2011....

Mitt Romney: $813,300

Barack Obama: $198,874
Tim Pawlenty: $101,515
Rick Perry: $58,900
Jon Huntsman: $28,250
Ron Paul: $13,104
Herman Cain: $2,715
Michelle Bachmann: $1,500
Newt Gingrich: $1,250

....He's for big business.

Republicans are supposed to be against Gov. Health Care right? However he came up with the plan that Obama Care was based upon.

Spending in Massachusetts increased significantly under Mitt Romney. This was especially true for the last two budgets passed under Romney. In fiscal year 2006, government spending in Massachusetts increased by 7.6 Percent. In fiscal year 2007, government spending in Massachusetts increased by a whopping 10.2 percent. A conservative? Yea right!....Let's not also forget that he supported the Bail Outs!

The "cuts" he wants to make to Federal Gov spending are only cuts to previous spending, not to our current spending. So basically all he would be doing is slowing down the spending. Just like the BS plan congress came up with last year.

He supports Al Gore and Global Warming. While Mitt was governor, Massachusetts became the very 1st state to pass a law to regulate carbon emissions.


What Mitt thinks about illgal immigration:
“But my view is that those 12 million who've come here illegally should be given the opportunity to sign up to stay here”

Mitt Romney does not want to end the pointless wars we are in. He has publicly stated that he would like to double the number of prisoners in Guantanamo Baby. He can also be found saying that he wants to make every single effort to make Homeland Security Stronger. He believes in "sacrificing the rights" of citizens in order to prevent terrorism.



 

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Doc, no need to ask me that question. You know firmly were I stand. The issue is electability. With so many dumb asses out there sucking off our tax dollars and with a new generation of voters who haven't experienced what you and I have, do you think Mitt will connect with these people. He hasn't shown me he is capable of getting out of the Boardroom.
since it's all but over, he can start focusing solely on campaining against the incumbent. while i would have voted abo, i'm perfectly happy with romney. a fiscal conservative. no more $5bil giveaways for bullet trains, multi billion giveaways for kickbacks. no more multi trillion added debt every year. no more stephen chu. no more holder. no more fed buying up car corporations. unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on perspective), i'll only vote in arizona. and we can say "romney carries arizona" right now...
 

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Doc, no need to ask me that question. You know firmly were I stand. The issue is electability. With so many dumb asses out there sucking off our tax dollars and with a new generation of voters who haven't experienced what you and I have, do you think Mitt will connect with these people. He hasn't shown me he is capable of getting out of the Boardroom.
Then you might want to carefully review his record as governor of a dominate democrat state like Massachusetts where he governed and accomplished so very much despite having to deal with a heavily democrat congress.
 

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Mitt will make a great president.

Notice the liberal morons are already confused as to whether he needs to move to the left to appear more moderate or to the right to satisfy the "right wing base".

More proof libs are idiots, he's already a moderate conservative. That's how he's governed in the past, not my choice as a conservative but more electable than a hard core conservative.

The independents will make the difference in this election, the left has bought and paid for the moron vote with entitlements and their brainwashed base is too far gone to see any fact set before them. The brainwashed base that STILL calls that sack of shit occupying the White House a moderate.
 
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