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well I need to buy a good rotating assembly, my 454 block checked out to be ok, no cracks, needs to be bored 30 over, but the stock crank is toast. I thought it would be easier to just get the whole assembly instead of getting a crank, then pistons seperate, also I dont think I would want to use the old rod either, (it spun a rod bearing and piston was split in half) , just me. The question is, which assemblies are better, scat or eagle? I have been looking in my summit magazine and they sell both, this is just going to be a stock stroke( the 427 crank is pricey as hell) so basically a stock replacement, but better, any thoughts? thanks,
 

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You seriously considering building a 427 from a rotating kit? Really?
well I have two 396 's one has a good crank, one doesnt, so I was thinking about putting the 396 crank i have in the 454, but then I decided I would rather save it, its the complete motor, it was what was in the boat originally. I was looking at site that had eagle cranks, rotating assemblies, they sell a 427 crank and rods, pistons, etc.. and wow it costs alot more than a standard 454 crank (stroke). I decided to just go with the stock stroke, I kinda like the shorter stroke myself, but then again the boat has never had a 454 in it, i might like it better..;) i was kinda trying to put it back as close to original as I could, but I guess now that it has a painted floor:angry: stupid me!! I geuss its not really original anymore! i wish I had a good fiber glass shop in the area but we dont, I would have to drive about 4-5hrs away, and thats what iM GOING TO DO WHEN THE SHIT PAINT COMES UP! OR TRY IT MYSELF FIRST, FLOW COAT, ANYWAY I THOUGHT MY DAD WOULD THINK IT WAS COOL (427) BUT THE STOCK 454 MIGHT BE BETTER ANYWAY? OH WELL
 

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Why not?

If you want to stick with a 427, stick with a 427.

I had some stuff laying around - - 7115 crank (396/427), 361959 block (454), 1965 Impala SS (327/PG). With a stock set of non-ported 290 oval-ports upped to 2.19s, slightly over-mild Xtreme Energy roller cam and Edelbrock dual-quads. I put a 4L80E trans behind it. With 3.31 gears and 26.5" tires, first and second are almost useless. If you stand on it, you had better be serious. I really DIDN'T expect to run this hard.

So, a 427 is nothing to sneer at. Even the small 396 is no slouch at all. Yes, there is no replacement for displacement, but there's absolutely nothing weak about a well-built 427.
 

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If you are on a budget a 427 is probably the cheapest horsepower around.Stock 3.76 cranks are still plentiful, i'm into mine less than 250 core/mag/grind and bearings, a hun for rods 50 for bolts.
If you are buying after market crank your money is probably better spent on a 4.250 and longer rods, but that is a completely different budget. Just remember, most 427 stuff is closed chamber.

Don't know your exact definition of pump gas but my 11.0-1 C/C deal with .020 head gaskets runs fine on terribles 91 octane and maybe 25% 93 octane
 

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If you are on a budget a 427 is probably the cheapest horsepower around.Stock 3.76 cranks are still plentiful, i'm into mine less than 250 core/mag/grind and bearings, a hun for rods 50 for bolts.
If you are buying after market crank your money is probably better spent on a 4.250 and longer rods, but that is a completely different budget. Just remember, most 427 stuff is closed chamber.

Don't know your exact definition of pump gas but my 11.0-1 C/C deal with .020 head gaskets runs fine on terribles 91 octane and maybe 25% 93 octane
ya i was looking at after market kits (eagle/scat) i would like to get a kit that is balanced, because I dont really have good machine shops around here, thats why I was saying the 454 kit was cheaper it seems the 427 kits from eagle cost more than a 454 kit, im not really stuck on the 427 , but I have alot of 396 heads, and rods so thats also where my idea was coming from, but then getting a full kit might be better for me right now because i really have no machine shop to take my stuff to, unless i drive out of town, which i might. Thanks for the help and advice.. I know the 396 and 427s build good power! the boat had a 396 in it, and I thought it was pretty fast, probly nothing compared to some of the peoples boats on here, but to me it was fast enough! If you build them right, they scream! I have a friend that has a 59 impala with a 409 in it, that car screams, and thats a huge car!, so Im not going racing, just want a good reliable motor, either 454 or 427, I have a good 454 block , and i thought i had two good 396 cranks, but it turns out i only have one good 396 crank, and i want to save it, so I was looking at scat rotating kits in summit, they cost $992.94 sca-92250 its a 454 kit, crank , rods, pistons, bearings, but its not balanced, but thats a pretty good price for everything I think.
 

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ya i was looking at after market kits (eagle/scat) i would like to get a kit that is balanced, because I dont really have good machine shops around here, thats why I was saying the 454 kit was cheaper it seems the 427 kits from eagle cost more than a 454 kit, im not really stuck on the 427 , but I have alot of 396 heads, and rods so thats also where my idea was coming from, but then getting a full kit might be better for me right now because i really have no machine shop to take my stuff to, unless i drive out of town, which i might. Thanks for the help and advice.. I know the 396 and 427s build good power! the boat had a 396 in it, and I thought it was pretty fast, probly nothing compared to some of the peoples boats on here, but to me it was fast enough! If you build them right, they scream! I have a friend that has a 59 impala with a 409 in it, that car screams, and thats a huge car!, so Im not going racing, just want a good reliable motor, either 454 or 427, I have a good 454 block , and i thought i had two good 396 cranks, but it turns out i only have one good 396 crank, and i want to save it, so I was looking at scat rotating kits in summit, they cost $992.94 sca-92250 its a 454 kit, crank , rods, pistons, bearings, but its not balanced, but thats a pretty good price for everything I think.
White performance Machine has 468 balanced rotating assemblies for 1085.00.eagle crank,h-beam forged rods and forged pistons.Comes with King besrings and Hastings rings.
 

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Well to bad you're not a Ford guy:


$ 1,250. delivered.

4.30" stroke crank, Scat rods, Probe pistons, rings and bearings.


Not a bad deal on the Ford close-out sale.

S CP :happy:
 

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....He could either do that Ford stroker kit.....or a 468 BBC. About the same. :|err:stir:
 

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Or a 302 Ford and a Merc 8.1. About the same.:rolleyes:
Wow....is stalking a crime in your state as well as mine? Quit following me - it's creepy. I'm happily married to my wife.....18 years now. You're barking up the wrong tree. I'm not discriminating against your lifestyle, I'm just not interested.
 

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Ah.. Denial. It'll all work out for you buddy. Keep hoping! As soon as you can admit the problem.....that'll be the first step.
Kinda like pretending there is no God....:duh:
 

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Kinda like pretending there is no God....:duh:
I haven't shaken hands with him.....and neither have you - so who's pretending?

You two sure like jacking threads. I don't see what your reply there has to do with rotating assemblies? At least that guy that is in love with me had some engine sizes in his stab. Some REAL items.
 

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....He could either do that Ford stroker kit.....or a 468 BBC. About the same. :|err:stir:
You two sure like jacking threads. .
JACKING THREADS? Seriously? Are you fricking kidding me with this shit Beer? Maybe you should ask the OP if he thinks Steel or I have jacked the thread before your bullshit started up. You come off with the shit statement above and WE are jacking the thread.

You should stick with the Bayliner crowd. Its a much better fit for you.



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