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The people went out and put the Republicans back in power.........They turn around and re-elect that fucking pussy as speaker...............There is nothing going to change,they are going to keep caving to the Emperor. Same old politics as usual...........:duh::no:
 

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The people went out and put the Republicans back in power.........They turn around and re-elect that fucking pussy as speaker...............There is nothing going to change,they are going to keep caving to the Emperor. Same old politics as usual...........:duh::no:
I am afraid that you may be correct. I have written my representatives/senators regarding my "concerns". The reply's are pretty much "canned".
It is like "pissing in the wind".

I feel that I can't really say what I want because of the fact that we are ALL being "watched".
 

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I read a thread from one of the Reps from Texas that had his explanation of why he voted for Speaker and then looked at the responses on his Facebook page. There were thousands of responses and I believe that there wasn't one that supported his position. They were PISSED to no end. I have a feeling that there might be some more shaking up in the House in the next election, as there damn well should be.

Most all of the political asshats are more concerned with their own careers, than in doing what they were elected to do. They all say that they will vote one way and in the end the cave to the pressure from the Speaker. He threatens them with plumb Committee seats or Chairmanships etc. All they give a shit about is getting a plumb job with a little power so they can look important. Big fucking deal. As far as I'm concerned, they should be elected for one four year term and then go home and get a real job. They don't need to hang around Washington for thirty or forty years and imbed them selves as power brokers so they can suck millions of dollars from us taxpayers and then finally retire as multimillionaires, like most of them do. Crooks, all of them:)bit:)bit

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It is clear to Me that it may take a few "cycles" before these elected Representatives get the message.

Toss 'em again in the next election, and the next, and the next until FINALLY they understand that WE THE PEOPLE are tired of their shit.

Do what we elected you for or we will fire you just as fast...Rep or Dem no difference.
 

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It is clear to Me that it may take a few "cycles" before these elected Representatives get the message.

Toss 'em again in the next election, and the next, and the next until FINALLY they understand that WE THE PEOPLE are tired of their shit.

Do what we elected you for or we will fire you just as fast...Rep or Dem no difference.
Agree!

The reality is with each election, we are only sending a few reinforcements to the few conservatives who are working in the belt way cesspool, not changing the status quo. You're not going to get rid of the Boehner's and McConnell's in one or two election cycles. These are the guys who run the party, and have been running the party for quite a while. They have been imbedded in the system way too long and are too beholding to special interest groups. Also many other congressman and senators owe them favors as well. That's why it's difficult to vote them out of leadership positions. You purge the swamp from the bottom up, not top down. Each election cycle we put more pressure on the old guard and try to knock a few of them off at a time. Hopefully a few get the Eric Cantor surprise and get voted out by their own districts. That's why it's also important to keep the new guys feet to the fire and let them know they are there to work for the people.
 

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It is clear to Me that it may take a few "cycles" before these elected Representatives get the message.

Toss 'em again in the next election, and the next, and the next until FINALLY they understand that WE THE PEOPLE are tired of their shit.

Do what we elected you for or we will fire you just as fast...Rep or Dem no difference.
I realize and agree to this approach, which would work in a NORMAL Constitutional Republic. Although considering things being as they are currently................WE don't have that kind of time. The toilet has already been flushed, we're doing the circles now..............just a short matter of time and we're down for the count................:drown:
 

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Stop voting GOP.

Oh yeah, this is a wonderful idea............in fact let's just don't vote at all. Let's send all the police home for good, let the military do their job. Then put all the illegals on the system. Then you and all the rest of the working folks can work double shifts to pay the emperor his taxes to fund all this........Oh, lets not forget,just let him take your life savings to add to the money he needs for whatever he wants to do...........Stop voting GOP.........that's got to be the dumbest fucking thing I've heard in quite some time. Here's a thought........why don't you take your emperor and the like minded,get on a fucking plane and get the fuck out of MY Constitutional Republic and go start your own fucked up shit somewhere else................like in Kenya maybe,they'd love to have all of ya:rolleyes::signhuh::wtf:
 

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I realize and agree to this approach, which would work in a NORMAL Constitutional Republic. Although considering things being as they are currently................WE don't have that kind of time. The toilet has already been flushed, we're doing the circles now..............just a short matter of time and we're down for the count................:drown:
I also feel that sense of urgency, and wonder if we can emerge from the vortex.
 

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If you guys enjoy getting fucked your whole life keep voting GOP. Both parties are interestrd in growing Gov. And being the party in control. I know most of you will continue to vote GOP because you want your SS and the whole system to stay intact until AFTER you die. For young people who want a life with the original constitution and want to avoid a future collapse, GOP is not the answer.
 

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It is clear to Me that it may take a few "cycles" before these elected Representatives get the message.

Toss 'em again in the next election, and the next, and the next until FINALLY they understand that WE THE PEOPLE are tired of their shit.

Do what we elected you for or we will fire you just as fast...Rep or Dem no difference.
Perfect example would be both Flake and McCain from Arizona. Neither will ever be re-elected in Arizona.
 

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Oh yeah, this is a wonderful idea............in fact let's just don't vote at all. Let's send all the police home for good, let the military do their job. Then put all the illegals on the system. Then you and all the rest of the working folks can work double shifts to pay the emperor his taxes to fund all this........Oh, lets not forget,just let him take your life savings to add to the money he needs for whatever he wants to do...........Stop voting GOP.........that's got to be the dumbest fucking thing I've heard in quite some time. Here's a thought........why don't you take your emperor and the like minded,get on a fucking plane and get the fuck out of MY Constitutional Republic and go start your own fucked up shit somewhere else................like in Kenya maybe,they'd love to have all of ya:rolleyes::signhuh::wtf:
If the GOP is so great, why did the speaker get re-elected?
 

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If you guys enjoy getting fucked your whole life keep voting GOP. Both parties are interestrd in growing Gov. And being the party in control. I know most of you will continue to vote GOP because you want your SS and the whole system to stay intact until AFTER you die. For young people who want a life with the original constitution and want to avoid a future collapse, GOP is not the answer.
I agree with your synopsis..... but, if "GOP is not the answer", what would be your answer to this situation?

Like it or not, we have two controlling political parties and that is NOT going to change until AFTER the revolution.Therefore we must make the best out of the "sorry" hands we are dealt. Whenever patriotic Americans find a worthy outstanding candidate willing to run outside of these two parties, their votes simply dilutes the results just enough to allow the less desirable candidate, usually an extreme liberal to win the election. With that being said, not voting GOP plays right into the liberal's plan and keeping them in control...... Granted it is a "Catch 22", but I for one choose not to assist and escalate the Liberals in this manner!

I am curious, how many times did you vote for Ralph Nader?
 

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I agree with your synopsis..... but, if "GOP is not the answer", what would be your answer to this situation?

Like it or not, we have two controlling political parties and that is NOT going to change until AFTER the revolution.Therefore we must make the best out of the "sorry" hands we are dealt. Whenever patriotic Americans find a worthy outstanding candidate willing to run outside of these two parties, their votes simply dilute the results just enough to allow the less desirable candidate, usually an extreme liberal wins the election. With that being said, not voting GOP plays right into the liberal's plan and keeping them in control...... I for one choose not to assist them in this manner!

I am curious, how many times did you vote for Ralph Nader?
I'm not old enough to have been able to vote for Nader.

Many congressional districts are full of constitutional, state rights, limited federal government conservatives. In land area, conservatives dominate. Those districts need to start voting 3rd party so the house moves to a three party system. That is step one, and until we do step one nothing will change and you'll continue to get fucked. The GOP is interested in two things and only two things. Growing government and being in control of it. Each gives them power to become wealthy and in the top class of citizens, but are really driven by the donors whether it be people or corporations.
 

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What we need is for every day working Americans to want to step up and run for all the positions, even president. We are still "we the people" right. Why should politions be the only ones running, I would vote for a good ole boy redneck, that has a job, has to fork out money for so called taxes, and knows how difficult it is to live with government in your pocket and is not politically correct (anyone of us). The people running should not be lawyers, governors, ect,,,but people with good common sense, common curtesy, belief in family, and most of all our constitutional way of life. Running for any position, even president, a person should not need millions or thousands of dollars. A person should be able to use the resources that are free of ie; public speaking, news media, radio outlets, and...
 

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I'm not old enough to have been able to vote for Nader.

Many congressional districts are full of constitutional, state rights, limited federal government conservatives. In land area, conservatives dominate. Those districts need to start voting 3rd party so the house moves to a three party system. That is step one, and until we do step one nothing will change and you'll continue to get fucked. The GOP is interested in two things and only two things. Growing government and being in control of it. Each gives them power to become wealthy and in the top class of citizens, but are really driven by the donors whether it be people or corporations.
Well if you were older, you would know from past experience that your "step one" has been tried numerous times. And each time these "steps" were taken, even if elected, the 3rd party candidates are powerless in DC due to the dominating status quo and Liberals are escalated again and again to the dominating point we know today. like I said a "Catch 22"

Taking into consideration that the "electoral college" actually elects the POTUS, and not districts that are full of constitutional, state rights, limited federal government conservatives....... history is very clear on this issue. Sorry but your plan is a "pipe dream" with no chance of fruition. As I stated earlier, this flawed philosophy simply promotes and escalates the liberal agenda.....but you of course are free to "dream on".
 

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Well if you were older, you would know from past experience that your "step one" has been tried numerous times. And each time these "steps" were taken, even if elected, the 3rd party candidates are powerless in DC due to the dominating status quo and Liberals are escalated again and again to the dominating point we know today. like I said a "Catch 22"

Taking into consideration that the "electoral college" actually elects the POTUS, and not districts that are full of constitutional, state rights, limited federal government conservatives....... history is very clear on this issue. Sorry but your plan is a "pipe dream" with no chance of fruition. As I stated earlier, this flawed philosophy simply promotes and escalates the liberal agenda.....but you of course are free to "dream on".
Party Divisions | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

Since WW2, in the House of Representatives a minority party has never held a seat besides the Socialist party, the American Labor Party, for 3 terms.

If it's 40% GOP, 40% Dem and 20% 3rd Party in the house, it'd be a bit difficult to not work with them and in my opinion those are achievable numbers if our conservative districts go with a 3rd party. Leaders with strong messages will only grow the party. You are right, one seat in itself is worthless.

I realize that GOP/DEM will always control senate seats and the presidency but you can start the change in the house and eventually that party will gain traction in senate. Can you imagine the havoc in the senate if there was 48 Dem 48 GOP and even just 4 3rd Party seats? (This has never happened in modern history). There are states capable of providing 3rd Party senators, but it has to prove itself in the house first and have a clear message of limited federal government.

My "dream" is the only thing that will save the US from having a transformation for the worst, which we are already in.

To clarify, your HoR vote should be 3rd party. Your Senate vote should be GOP, and your presidential vote should be GOP at this point in time.
 

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Party Divisions | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

Since WW2, in the House of Representatives a minority party has never held a seat besides the Socialist party, the American Labor Party, for 3 terms.

If it's 40% GOP, 40% Dem and 20% 3rd Party in the house, it'd be a bit difficult to not work with them and in my opinion those are achievable numbers if our conservative districts go with a 3rd party. Leaders with strong messages will only grow the party. You are right, one seat in itself is worthless.

I realize that GOP/DEM will always control senate seats and the presidency but you can start the change in the house and eventually that party will gain traction in senate. Can you imagine the havoc in the senate if there was 48 Dem 48 GOP and even just 4 3rd Party seats? (This has never happened in modern history). There are states capable of providing 3rd Party senators, but it has to prove itself in the house first and have a clear message of limited federal government.

My "dream" is the only thing that will save the US from having a transformation for the worst, which we are already in.

To clarify, your HoR vote should be 3rd party. Your Senate vote should be GOP, and your presidential vote should be GOP at this point in time.
Good theory, but One MAJOR flaw....., by the time (decades) these Conservative Representatives have a chance to "grow the party", Rome will continue to burn..... look at how much damage has been done in just 6 years....... As the deck is clearly "stacked against us", time is not our friend.

Icy, I for one love your spirit and out of dreams comes greatness, and please do not feel I am being negative just for the hell of it. I believe we are so far removed from our founding core values, that when we as conservatives slip only an inch, the progressives gain a foot. I do not have the answer, and I do not believe voting 3rd party at this time is the answer. I my be naive, but I believe we have a better chance by abolishing the Rhinos and restoring the Republican Party....... the Tea Party made a "good run" towards these efforts but some of the over zealous extremist "over played their hands" and derailed their progress....
However please know, I certainly have respect for those with the spirit and drive to continue seeking a conservative resolve :thumb:
 

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Good theory, but One MAJOR flaw....., by the time (decades) these Conservative Representatives have a chance to "grow the party", Rome will continue to burn..... look at how much damage has been done in just 6 years....... As the deck is clearly "stacked against us", time is not our friend.

Icy, I for one love your spirit and out of dreams comes greatness, and please do not feel I am being negative just for the hell of it. I believe we are so far removed from our founding core values, that when we as conservatives slip only an inch, the progressives gain a foot. I do not have the answer, and I do not believe voting 3rd party at this time is the answer. I my be naive, but I believe we have a better chance by abolishing the Rhinos and restoring the Republican Party....... the Tea Party made a "good run" towards these efforts but some of the over zealous extremist "over played their hands" and derailed their progress....
However please know, I certainly have respect for those with the spirit and drive to continue seeking a conservative resolve :thumb:
Personally, I think it's feasible for a 3rd party conservative candidate to win in places we have 75% Republican votes and with a strong conservative message some places we have 70%of the vote.

Total Vote MinimumNumber of SeatsPercentage of the House
60%17039.08%
65%10824.83%
70%5211.95%
75%296.67%
80%92.07%
85%40.92%
90%10.23%
95%00.00%

House Election Results 2014 - NYTimes.com

Data from above.

You have to start somewhere, otherwise this thread can be posted after every single election.

29 seats to a 3rd, would generally take out the majority option for any party.
 
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