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Seems as if one of our favorite nameless/faceless ones is pretty scared of the likes of Romney, Rubio and other credible and successful men with track records for the world to see. What could possibly scare him into starting thread after thread of bogus information. You'd swear he's an MSNBC operative - except that would require he actually work. :)hand:)hand:)hand
 

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He is what he is, no question there. Speaking of the faceless troll. That being said, and I hate to say it, but he's correct in his assessment of Romney. Romney may come from a capitalist background but that aside, his record in office is damn near identical to what O pushed and put in place. I completely agree that anybody but O is an improvement. But, the GOP has completely screwed the pooch with the candidate they're putting forth for the electorate to support. It's astounding how bad they've missed the mark with this one, and it should have been a slam dunk. The only saving grace to this is O will essentially be neutered if he does win the general election. It looks like there's a good chance the Senate will go GOP and the House will stay GOP. The GOP has managed to alienate a large portion of the base, and I'm not sure many will return to support Romney. I can't say I'll support his campaign with little more than a less than enthusiastic vote. All the other support will definitely not happen.
 

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Seems as if one of our favorite nameless/faceless ones is pretty scared of the likes of Romney, Rubio and other credible and successful men with track records for the world to see. What could possibly scare him into starting thread after thread of bogus information. You'd swear he's an MSNBC operative - except that would require he actually work. :)hand:)hand:)hand

Doc!! did you get to see any of the Washington News Members drool meeting last night.BoBo was the hero and could speak no wrong. I enjoyed Jimmy Kimmel as although in humor it seemed as he was jabbing.:))THumbsUp
 

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He is what he is, no question there. Speaking of the faceless troll. That being said, and I hate to say it, but he's correct in his assessment of Romney. Romney may come from a capitalist background but that aside, his record in office is damn near identical to what O pushed and put in place. I completely agree that anybody but O is an improvement. But, the GOP has completely screwed the pooch with the candidate they're putting forth for the electorate to support. It's astounding how bad they've missed the mark with this one, and it should have been a slam dunk. The only saving grace to this is O will essentially be neutered if he does win the general election. It looks like there's a good chance the Senate will go GOP and the House will stay GOP. The GOP has managed to alienate a large portion of the base, and I'm not sure many will return to support Romney. I can't say I'll support his campaign with little more than a less than enthusiastic vote. All the other support will definitely not happen.
So glad to see other GOP people other than myself with this view. And not be called a libbie or something. Romney is just a vote for the lesser of 2 evils for me. Pathetic that this is the best they have to offer after a horrible pres like Obama. Wtf. I expected better.
 

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He is what he is, no question there. Speaking of the faceless troll. That being said, and I hate to say it, but he's correct in his assessment of Romney. Romney may come from a capitalist background but that aside, his record in office is damn near identical to what O pushed and put in place. I completely agree that anybody but O is an improvement. But, the GOP has completely screwed the pooch with the candidate they're putting forth for the electorate to support. It's astounding how bad they've missed the mark with this one, and it should have been a slam dunk. The only saving grace to this is O will essentially be neutered if he does win the general election. It looks like there's a good chance the Senate will go GOP and the House will stay GOP. The GOP has managed to alienate a large portion of the base, and I'm not sure many will return to support Romney. I can't say I'll support his campaign with little more than a less than enthusiastic vote. All the other support will definitely not happen.
So glad to see other GOP people other than myself with this view. And not be called a libbie or something. Romney is just a vote for the lesser of 2 evils for me. Pathetic that this is the best they have to offer after a horrible pres like Obama. Wtf. I expected better.
My fear is that Romney just pushes the ism farther down the road, and what we may get after his term(s) is something worse than Obama. We are going to have tough times ahead because of this reckless spending. Those issues will easily be blamed on the Romney and I do not know how Romney is going to make it any better unless he really grows our economy. I think he'll be more of the same, cut spending a little but not even return to Bush #2s crazy levels. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

It doesn't help that in the US there is probably more useless industries than useful.
 

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Pathetic that this is the best they have to offer after a horrible pres like Obama. Wtf. I expected better.
I am thinking this is caused by one of two things, if not both. Nobody really wants this mess, specially after this dumbass made it as bad as it is. This is whole new kind of hole the country is in.
And that they think, or at least thought at the time, that Obama was unbeatable with the "following". Too many blind sheep, too many dependents. But thats not holding up like it did. If the health care gets dumped, and Afgan doesn't look better, and the PRICE of gas doesn't nose dive, Obama has a bigger problem than he did 18 months ago. A presidential candidate doesn't get into the deal in Feb of the election year. Its years in the palnning. I think any real repulican candidate was looking at the next election to jump in, and wrote this one off. Bad mistake on the republicans behalf. Because as we get closer, anybody but Obama is sounding louder and louder. Even outside the right of center.



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If obama wins, im more worried about any new liberal supreme court appointees.
This will do far more longterm damage to our freedoms.
 

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He is what he is, no question there. Speaking of the faceless troll. That being said, and I hate to say it, but he's correct in his assessment of Romney. Romney may come from a capitalist background but that aside, his record in office is damn near identical to what O pushed and put in place. I completely agree that anybody but O is an improvement. But, the GOP has completely screwed the pooch with the candidate they're putting forth for the electorate to support. It's astounding how bad they've missed the mark with this one, and it should have been a slam dunk. The only saving grace to this is O will essentially be neutered if he does win the general election. It looks like there's a good chance the Senate will go GOP and the House will stay GOP. The GOP has managed to alienate a large portion of the base, and I'm not sure many will return to support Romney. I can't say I'll support his campaign with little more than a less than enthusiastic vote. All the other support will definitely not happen.
So glad to see other GOP people other than myself with this view. And not be called a libbie or something. Romney is just a vote for the lesser of 2 evils for me. Pathetic that this is the best they have to offer after a horrible pres like Obama. Wtf. I expected better.
I'm of the same feelings, I just don't trust him given his political past.
 

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We can all agree that Romney is not the choice of real conservatives. He is a moderate that the GOP is backing. When it is all said and done, Romney needs the Independents, women votes, senior votes, as much of the minority vote as possible to win. If elected, I doubt he would be able to do extreme revisions to entitlements quick enough to suit me. The one bright picture is, that he is a capitalist, and will take broad strokes to get the economy back on track. He will have a HUGE mess to deal with.
 

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If obama wins, im more worried about any new liberal supreme court appointees.
This will do far more longterm damage to our freedoms.
I think you hit the pink elephant in the room on the head. As much as O needs to go, it's an even bigger deal to keep the House and take the Senate.
 

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I am thinking this is caused by one of two things, if not both. Nobody really wants this mess, specially after this dumbass made it as bad as it is. This is whole new kind of hole the country is in.
And that they think, or at least thought at the time, that Obama was unbeatable with the "following". Too many blind sheep, too many dependents. But thats not holding up like it did. If the health care gets dumped, and Afgan doesn't look better, and the PRICE of gas doesn't nose dive, Obama has a bigger problem than he did 18 months ago. A presidential candidate doesn't get into the deal in Feb of the election year. Its years in the palnning. I think any real repulican candidate was looking at the next election to jump in, and wrote this one off. Bad mistake on the republicans behalf. Because as we get closer, anybody but Obama is sounding louder and louder. Even outside the right of center.
I completely agree with you. With the cess pool that permeates DC why would anybody subject themselves to what goes on. There are a handfull or so of very good conservative candidates that have silently stayed out of this, and I can't blame them. This country doesn't unleash the military in the manner that is taken on political office seekers. Unfortunately we don't have the luxury of a reset button and this country is headed for some serious stuff in the next decade or so that will make Greece look like a beta test.
 

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I fear there is a misconception that is far reaching in Romney's past. The state in which he was governor was largely democrat and his senate and house were overwhelmingly democrat controlled. Much of what was legislated in Massachusetts was sent to the Governor's office by this liberal group and called for by the overwhelmingly democrat constituency. He gave his constituency what they asked for, within reason. I see things this way. First and foremost we need someone who understands simple principals to save America.
You can't spend more than you take in!
Romney absolutely understands this concept while the Kenyan is oblivious to it - unless he's intentionally trying to bankrupt the USA.
Government MUST be run like a business!
While the Kenyan has zero business experience or sense, Romney has proven in everything he's done in his life that he understands business principals.
Nothing will get done without both parties coming together! (except when things like KenyanKare is shoved down our throats with a total lib majority.)
The Kenyan has been 100% unable to work with the GOP in his entire tenure. Romney's governorship proved he can and does reach across the aisle well.
The supreme court matters!
While the Kenyan threatens them and places two obviously liberal plants on the bench, our next president will probably make the difference between justice and non-partisan politics coming from the bench in the future. As Angry Dad said, this alone is reason to mandate a change.
The constitution matters more to our future than philosophy!
The Kenyan has fired off more executive orders to bypass the constitution than anyone in history with the full intention of bypassing the constitution including, sending troops into Africa and Libya. Romney is a student of the founding fathers and lives by most of the same principals that they drafted into the constitution, including trust in God.
Human life at all stages matters!
KenyanKare has death panels and the Kenyan has funded more abortions worldwide with US taxpayer's money than any single president in history. Romney believes it's a child first-not a choice and that taxpayer funding for abortions in the US much less worldwide is simply wrong.
Our economy is in dire straights!
Much of our problems today in the US have been the result of the Kenyan's spending spree with zero results while Romney has proven to be fiscally responsible in every facet of his life since childhood, through multiple business ventures, in public office, the Olympics and beyond!
Americans want to go to work!
Unemployment has been irresponsibly high since the Kenyan took office with little or no change. During Romney's tenure as governor he created jobs and reduced unemployment. He understands what business needs to get hiring again and knows how to implement measures to insure it.
Taxes make the difference!
The Kenyan has spoken about raising taxes since prior to taking office. KenyanKare has multiple new taxes within its pages that will drastically effect business in America. Romney, on the other hand, has a firm grasp on the effects of taxation and how increasing business in America can/will increase tax revenue without raising tax rates. Fact is he is a strong proponent of scrapping the tax code altogether for a more fair and balanced tax structure.
Government Regulations are killing American Business!
GE just announced the complete relocation of a major imaging manufacturing facility to China. GM, Ford, Chrysler have all begun new facilities abroad to move their operations offshore and the greatest departure of American business has taken place in the past few years. Romney intends to de-regulate much of our current punitive system to woo business of all kinds back to America with incentives rather than regulations.
Union labor is not the answer!
The Kenyan had the audacity to sue Boeing in an attempt to thwart their relocating to a non-union state - South Carolina to erect the 787 with the blessing and support of the NLRB behind the law suit. Boeing's next move was surely offshore. He bailed out GM and Chrysler for the sole purpose of saving union contracts. Now GM is erecting an entire city in China for future manufacturing while Fiat has purchased Chrysler with the intent to move much of those operations abroad. That's not leadership! That's economic disaster! Romney's father headed up American motors for years and he understands the delicate balance between manufacturing and labor. He lived it! He understands it and he knows that union labor is NOT the answer - especially in the public sector where there is no one to challenge their demands.
The President MUST love his country.
Obama has less allegiance to America than many other nation's leaders and he's proven it in word, deed and action. Romney is a life-long American with a love of country that would never permit bowing, apologizing, BSing other leaders as the Kenyan has done since day one.

Talk all you want about how moderate or soft Romney is because he's not abrasive but until you understand him - maybe read his book "No Apology" or research his history (which is not sealed) you are all starting to sound like z who is only repeating MSNBC. Mitt's a lot of things but soft isn't one of them.
 

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"......................Talk all you want about how moderate or soft Romney is because he's not abrasive but until you understand him - maybe read his book "No Apology" or research his history (which is not sealed) you are all starting to sound like z who is only repeating MSNBC. Mitt's a lot of things but soft isn't one of them.

Doc, are you so panicked you are now throwing out the "Z card" ? hil:)
 

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The catholic church is clear on the direction they believe is best for us all:

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Like what? What freedoms have lost or are afraid you will lose?
The potential list is more than can be posted here.
My wife and I were talking about this just a ccouple days ago.
I pointed out that probably the single most iimportant person in the Country today is the SC sswing vote. Just one more lib is all O needs to pretty much run wild and
shit all over the cconstitution at will.
4 more years of this POS would be nothing compared to 4 more years of him with the
SC in his pocket.
 

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Like what? What freedoms have lost or are afraid you will lose?
Let me guess - you went up-in-arms when Bush went into Iraq - even though it was "The Iraq Resolution" passed by congress that authorized military action there, right?

You clearly have said nothing wrong with our current military actions in Africa and Libya however where your Kenyan hero, by executive order, bypassing congressional approval and constitutional law, moved right in harm's way. Do your homework and research all the executive orders this clown has instituted since taking office without any congressional approval, many of which required congressional approval, according to the constitution.

That's the slippery slope your Cloward and Piven educated socialist has this country on. Do some research and you will see his efforts to clobber the first and second amendments (two of the very most important ones) to our constitution. Should he win re-election, I can all but guarantee you he'll run wild with both supreme court nominees to favor his agenda as well as executive orders to over-run congress and step all over this constitution that keeps getting in the way of his most important work, like KenyanKare.
 
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