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Coming soon to a neighborhood near you.
 

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Vicksburg? Vicksburg in what state? If MS, that is a stone's throw away from me! :)eh:)
 

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If you don't think someone has an agenda, it's time to stop drinking the koolaide. FEMA military response is the responsibility of eacy state. Each and every state has a standing militia known as the National Guard and the Govenor of the state controls that Militia. At any time of civil unrest or national disaster the Govenor and only the Govenor can call up the National Guard.

I think every state need to pass laws stating that no armed federal force can enter the state without prior state legislative permission for any reason or face being expelled by the State Militia.
 

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I'd be interested in seeing the oath of office they take. It can't even mention the constitution if they are going to be asked to carry out the president's executive orders. Fact is, any current military and law enforcement already took an oath to protect us from them if they don't swear the same oath.
 

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I'd be interested in seeing the oath of office they take. It can't even mention the constitution if they are going to be asked to carry out the president's executive orders. Fact is, any current military and law enforcement already took an oath to protect us from them if they don't swear the same oath.

So we can shoot them on sight? *hopeful look* :D
 

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South border??

I thought it was illegal for Federal troops to operate within our borders.. Seems to me I recall some ideas to use our Military for border security and it was shot down because of that law....

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Ray,
That little formality to Obozo called the Constitution, will be auto penned an Executive Order that will say troops can be in our borders.... The Constitution is just a irritant to this Imperial President!!
 

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Ray,
That little formality to Obozo called the Constitution, will be auto penned an Executive Order that will say troops can be in our borders.... The Constitution is just a irritant to this Imperial President!!
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Brings up a very interesting conversation. Would our servicemen attempt to take over states hostel to this administrations unconstitutional actions or would they follow the constitution and disregard orders? Would they be willing to fire upon local and state police, state national guard, and citizens?
The national guard follow the orders of the governor. Many state and local LEO have already vowed to reject any legislation that is deemed unconstitutional.
 

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Brings up a very interesting conversation. Would our servicemen attempt to take over states hostel to this administrations unconstitutional actions or would they follow the constitution and disregard orders? Would they be willing to fire upon local and state police, state national guard, and citizens?
The national guard follow the orders of the governor. Many state and local LEO have already vowed to reject any legislation that is deemed unconstitutional.
Great question, what does history tell us?
 

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Great question, what does history tell us?
History tells us for the military to be used inside our borders, martial law must be declared for the area that they are operating in. (Remember Katrina, weapons confinscation, ect)
 

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Another double standard....

Local agencies have been ordered to NOT enforce Federal immigration laws... Wouldn't Federal gun laws fall under the same umbrella?? I've seen several interviews of local LE that have said they will NOT enforce any new Federal gun laws if they are not allowed to enforce other Federal laws...

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Local agencies have been ordered to NOT enforce Federal immigration laws... Wouldn't Federal gun laws fall under the same umbrella?? I've seen several interviews of local LE that have said they will NOT enforce any new Federal gun laws if they are not allowed to enforce other Federal laws...

Ray
There MUST come a point in this process where law enforcement is forced to choose between the constitution, which they took an oath to sustain, protect and defend and subsequent orders on the local, state or even federal level. It's not going to be pretty but it appears many are already gearing up for this showdown.

Oath Keepers » Oath Keepers – Guardians of the Republic
 

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Local agencies have been ordered to NOT enforce Federal immigration laws... Wouldn't Federal gun laws fall under the same umbrella?? I've seen several interviews of local LE that have said they will NOT enforce any new Federal gun laws if they are not allowed to enforce other Federal laws...

Ray
You're dead on. Why do you think they're trying to ram through immigration reform so fast right now. If challenged in court, that could easily be brought up. If the administration started suing counties and states for not adhering to federal gun laws, the same people could bring up the counties that refuse to follow federal immigration laws.
 

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You're dead on. Why do you think they're trying to ram through immigration reform so fast right now. If challenged in court, that could easily be brought up. If the administration started suing counties and states for not adhering to federal gun laws, the same people could bring up the counties that refuse to follow federal immigration laws.
Obama isn't following existing federal immigration laws!
Or WARN laws
Or foreign trade gun laws
Federal laws excluding the federal government owning, operating, and competeing in private enterprise.
Most of his cabinet doesn't follow existing federal tax laws.

there is very little existing law he does follow, and its not going to get any better.



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