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It seems the Socialist/Commie/Islamic Party, previously known as the Democrat Party, has fallen to new lows. The MSM headed by the New York Times, have accused Pres. Trump of inciting the horrific shootings in El Paso, and Dayton. Pathetic reasoning by idiots and stupid shits! Like the comedian once said, "you can't fix stupid".
 

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It seems the Socialist/Commie/Islamic Party, previously known as the Democrat Party, has fallen to new lows. The MSM headed by the New York Times, have accused Pres. Trump of inciting the horrific shootings in El Paso, and Dayton. Pathetic reasoning by idiots and stupid shits! Like the comedian once said, "you can't fix stupid".

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Stupid, yes, that is why the scum of 4 fits into their party so well......Dumber than a sack of hair. X 4...
 

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Ya got one thing right, "You can't fix stupid," but that's about all.
You don't even have to be very smart to make the connection. Some people just aren't too bright though.

Even a blind jackass should be able to make the connection of violence and Trumps hate filled rhetoric and attacks. He encourages violence and has never encouraged civility, especially at his own rallies or in his tweets.


Violence by the Right extreme has increased under this presidency and he knows that's part of his base, so he encourages it and at times even suggests where the violence should be directed. So, he's seldom critical, except during a few rare speeches after some shooting has occurred, and where someone else has written it for him. It's easy to tell when someone else has written it because he has trouble reading it, and there is no sincerity in the delivery.

During Trumps Presidency, there have been more Right Wing violence than from foreign terrorism.
One thing not being talked about, would be when there is Right Wing terrorism, that leads to more homegrown terrorism in general. It encourages others with similar beliefs as well as retaliation from the other extreme.

For the Trump supporters who think he's doing a great job, there is more terrorism and mass shootings now than ever before and there is more illegals crossing the border than ever before.
Maybe you think thats a great job, but both are a result of this Presidents rhetoric.
 

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Ya got one thing right, "You can't fix stupid," but that's about all.
You don't even have to be very smart to make the connection. Some people just aren't too bright though.Even a blind jackass should be able to make the connection of violence and Trumps hate filled rhetoric and attacks. He encourages violence and has never encouraged civility, especially at his own rallies or in his tweets.


Violence by the Right extreme has increased under this presidency and he knows that's part of his base, so he encourages it and at times even suggests where the violence should be directed. So, he's seldom critical, except during a few rare speeches after some shooting has occurred, and where someone else has written it for him. It's easy to tell when someone else has written it because he has trouble reading it, and there is no sincerity in the delivery.

During Trumps Presidency, there have been more Right Wing violence than from foreign terrorism.
One thing not being talked about, would be when there is Right Wing terrorism, that leads to more homegrown terrorism in general. It encourages others with similar beliefs as well as retaliation from the other extreme.

For the Trump supporters who think he's doing a great job, there is more terrorism and mass shootings now than ever before and there is more illegals crossing the border than ever before.
Maybe you think thats a great job, but both are a result of this Presidents rhetoric.

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TG, it is not surprising that JP spews out 4 paragraphs of shit that is almost carbon copies of MSNBC phony journalism.:))ThumbsDwn:))ThumbsDwn:))ThumbsDwn:))ThumbsDwn:))ThumbsDwn:))ThumbsDwn:))ThumbsDwn:))ThumbsDwn:))ThumbsDwn
 

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TG, it is not surprising that JP spews out 4 paragraphs of shit that is almost carbon copies of MSNBC phony journalism.:))ThumbsDwn:))ThumbsDwn:))ThumbsDwn:))ThumbsDwn:))ThumbsDwn:))ThumbsDwn:))ThumbsDwn:))ThumbsDwn:))ThumbsDwn

If you had anything to support your ignorance, you would have posted it.
But you don't, so you didn't.
 

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"Send her back!! Send her back!!" chants the Trumpys and Chumpy Laughs and is a proud papa......

You are so obviously racist it is beyond anything I have seen in my 59 years.......And yet you morons actually believe yourselves when you state "Racism?....I don't see no racism!"

You guys all love your Chumpy personality cult.......So completely brainwashed.......That's why you have flys laying eggs in your ears! (No wax left to keep them out...)

Remember, only WHITE Christians need apply....."Right"?
 

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"Send her back!! Send her back!!" chants the Trumpys and Chumpy Laughs and is a proud papa......

You are so obviously racist it is beyond anything I have seen in my 59 years.......And yet you morons actually believe yourselves when you state "Racism?....I don't see no racism!"

You guys all love your Chumpy personality cult.......So completely brainwashed.......That's why you have flys laying eggs in your ears! (No wax left to keep them out...)

Remember, only WHITE Christians need apply....."Right"?
So out of curiosity. Can you site one specific time where Trump made a anti- Hispanic, Black, Islamic, remark (in other words a blatantly prejudiced comment)? And don't use him saying he is against illegal immigrants, or against Muslim Terrorist or terror based organizations. Yet you want to say he is a racist and anyone that supports him must also be. Would you like to see how many times he has specifically made comments against people who commit hate crimes, or preach prejudicial policies, or break laws?

So you blame Trump for the air of racial, financial, and even the gender based divisiveness that is gripping our nation. Yet it was Zero that stirred the race pot, the 1% pot, and even the gender pot. In fact didn't Zero run on the basic identity devisiveness that has been whipped into a tinder box of tension and hate? Isn't it the lame stream media that keeps stirring those pots and accusing anyone they don't support as being the root cause?

For the record: I am against ILLEGAL immigration, hate CRIMEs, and the PROMOTION OF RACISM (real and imagined), aren't you? Or are you the all in favor politicians that if it suites your needs it's OK type? The type that loves to stir those very pots and then point thier finger at others and say but it's their fault? From your posts you claim to be the first, but your actions sure look more like the latter. Why is that?
 

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So out of curiosity. Can you site one specific time where Trump made a anti- Hispanic, Black, Islamic, remark (in other words a blatantly prejudiced comment)? And don't use him saying he is against illegal immigrants, or against Muslim Terrorist or terror based organizations. Yet you want to say he is a racist and anyone that supports him must also be. Would you like to see how many times he has specifically made comments against people who commit hate crimes, or preach prejudicial policies, or break laws?

So you blame Trump for the air of racial, financial, and even the gender based divisiveness that is gripping our nation. Yet it was Zero that stirred the race pot, the 1% pot, and even the gender pot. In fact didn't Zero run on the basic identity devisiveness that has been whipped into a tinder box of tension and hate? Isn't it the lame stream media that keeps stirring those pots and accusing anyone they don't support as being the root cause?

For the record: I am against ILLEGAL immigration, hate CRIMEs, and the PROMOTION OF RACISM (real and imagined), aren't you? Or are you the all in favor politicians that if it suites your needs it's OK type? The type that loves to stir those very pots and then point thier finger at others and say but it's their fault? From your posts you claim to be the first, but your actions sure look more like the latter. Why is that?
Trump isn't the only President that has racist tendencies, but he is the most blatant of any recently and actually antagonizes the problem. He is the problem today.
You ask for one, but it's hard to pick which one. There are many examples.

You say, "Would you like to see how many times he has specifically made comments against people who commit hate crimes, or preach prejudicial policies, or break laws?"
I'd like to know of an example where he actually sounds like he means it, and it isn't he isn't reading from a teleprompter where someone else wrote it.
Trump has gone off script in most cases to inject what he really thinks. Here is one example, "There's good people on both sides."

Here are a few examples for your request.
The Squad, Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.

Calling Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists.

Proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the US.

Suggesting a judge should recuse himself from a case solely because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.


  • 1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating before.
  • 1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”
  • 1988: In a commencement speech at Lehigh University, Trump spent much of his speechaccusing countries like Japan of “stripping the United States of economic dignity.” This matches much of his current rhetoric on China.
  • 1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.
  • 1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interviewthat “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
  • 1992: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.
  • 1993: In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
  • 2000: In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of adssuggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”
  • 2004: In season two of The Apprentice, Trump fired Kevin Allen, a black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”
  • 2005: Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
  • 2010: In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On The Late Show With David Letterman, Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”
  • 2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first black president — was not born in the US. He even sent investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a ”carnival barker.” (The research has found a strong correlation between “birtherism,” as this conspiracy theory is called, and racism.) Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.
  • 2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
 

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Trump isn't the only President that has racist tendencies, but he is the most blatant of any recently and actually antagonizes the problem. He is the problem today.
You ask for one, but it's hard to pick which one. There are many examples.

You say, "Would you like to see how many times he has specifically made comments against people who commit hate crimes, or preach prejudicial policies, or break laws?"
I'd like to know of an example where he actually sounds like he means it, and it isn't he isn't reading from a teleprompter where someone else wrote it.
Trump has gone off script in most cases to inject what he really thinks. Here is one example, "There's good people on both sides."

Here are a few examples for your request.
The Squad, Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.

Calling Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists.

Proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the US.

Suggesting a judge should recuse himself from a case solely because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.


  • 1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating before.
  • 1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”
  • 1988: In a commencement speech at Lehigh University, Trump spent much of his speechaccusing countries like Japan of “stripping the United States of economic dignity.” This matches much of his current rhetoric on China.
  • 1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.
  • 1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interviewthat “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
  • 1992: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.
  • 1993: In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
  • 2000: In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of adssuggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”
  • 2004: In season two of The Apprentice, Trump fired Kevin Allen, a black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”
  • 2005: Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
  • 2010: In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On The Late Show With David Letterman, Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”
  • 2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first black president — was not born in the US. He even sent investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a ”carnival barker.” (The research has found a strong correlation between “birtherism,” as this conspiracy theory is called, and racism.) Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.
  • 2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
So I'm guessing you are trying to post quotes as I asked? Those aren't quotes. Those are interpretations of what you (or someone) believes he meant. Saying there are documented criminals and rapists in with the ILLEGAL immigrants is factual. How is that racist? He never said every Illegal immigrant was a rapist. Although it would be safe to say they are all criminals, thus the term ILLEGAL immigrant.

And yes Trump did say they should stop all Muslims from entering the US, IF the US Gov't could not guarantee they were not terrorists and that the American public would be safe if they entered. Again a big difference from what you would like us to believe he said. But, I guess context doesn't count if it goes against the point you are trying to make.

And does anyone believe Trump said you must recuse yourself because you are Hispanic? Or was there more to it making the "solely" addition to the statement a complete fabrication?

So while you made a weak attempt at posting quotes, you failed miserably. And while you alluded to the comment he made about the confederate hero statues and the two sides of the issue, you blatantly left out the part where he quite specifically stated that the hate mongering and criminal activity was wrong. He did say there were some good people on both sides, and he said there were some bad people on both sides. Sure is odd how only the parts that fit an agenda gets mentioned. I heard his specific comments as did many thousands of others. I guess I didn't drink any political kool-aide, so I heard all the words and formed my own opinions on their meanings. It isn't racist to think the statues are culturally significant nor to think they are beautiful.

So you struck out this round, maybe next time you try you'll actually post a specific quote and not just what someone told you he meant.
 

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"Send her back!! Send her back!!" chants the Trumpys and Chumpy Laughs and is a proud papa......

You are so obviously racist it is beyond anything I have seen in my 59 years.......And yet you morons actually believe yourselves when you state "Racism?....I don't see no racism!"

You guys all love your Chumpy personality cult.......So completely brainwashed.......That's why you have flys laying eggs in your ears! (No wax left to keep them out...)
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I actually identify as a black lesbian and if you don’t believe me you are a racist, genderphobic homophobe who supports Trump.
 

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So I'm guessing you are trying to post quotes as I asked? Those aren't quotes. Those are interpretations of what you (or someone) believes he meant. Saying there are documented criminals and rapists in with the ILLEGAL immigrants is factual. How is that racist? He never said every Illegal immigrant was a rapist. Although it would be safe to say they are all criminals, thus the term ILLEGAL immigrant.

And yes Trump did say they should stop all Muslims from entering the US, IF the US Gov't could not guarantee they were not terrorists and that the American public would be safe if they entered. Again a big difference from what you would like us to believe he said. But, I guess context doesn't count if it goes against the point you are trying to make.

And does anyone believe Trump said you must recuse yourself because you are Hispanic? Or was there more to it making the "solely" addition to the statement a complete fabrication?

So while you made a weak attempt at posting quotes, you failed miserably. And while you alluded to the comment he made about the confederate hero statues and the two sides of the issue, you blatantly left out the part where he quite specifically stated that the hate mongering and criminal activity was wrong. He did say there were some good people on both sides, and he said there were some bad people on both sides. Sure is odd how only the parts that fit an agenda gets mentioned. I heard his specific comments as did many thousands of others. I guess I didn't drink any political kool-aide, so I heard all the words and formed my own opinions on their meanings. It isn't racist to think the statues are culturally significant nor to think they are beautiful.

So you struck out this round, maybe next time you try you'll actually post a specific quote and not just what someone told you he meant.

Good luck snoc.
 

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So I'm guessing you are trying to post quotes as I asked? Those aren't quotes. Those are interpretations of what you (or someone) believes he meant. Saying there are documented criminals and rapists in with the ILLEGAL immigrants is factual. How is that racist? He never said every Illegal immigrant was a rapist. Although it would be safe to say they are all criminals, thus the term ILLEGAL immigrant.

And yes Trump did say they should stop all Muslims from entering the US, IF the US Gov't could not guarantee they were not terrorists and that the American public would be safe if they entered. Again a big difference from what you would like us to believe he said. But, I guess context doesn't count if it goes against the point you are trying to make.

And does anyone believe Trump said you must recuse yourself because you are Hispanic? Or was there more to it making the "solely" addition to the statement a complete fabrication?

So while you made a weak attempt at posting quotes, you failed miserably. And while you alluded to the comment he made about the confederate hero statues and the two sides of the issue, you blatantly left out the part where he quite specifically stated that the hate mongering and criminal activity was wrong. He did say there were some good people on both sides, and he said there were some bad people on both sides. Sure is odd how only the parts that fit an agenda gets mentioned. I heard his specific comments as did many thousands of others. I guess I didn't drink any political kool-aide, so I heard all the words and formed my own opinions on their meanings. It isn't racist to think the statues are culturally significant nor to think they are beautiful.

So you struck out this round, maybe next time you try you'll actually post a specific quote and not just what someone told you he meant.

You can make all of the excuses you want, but it still doesn't excuse Trumps actions and what he has said.

Regarding your "IF," there was nothing regarding guarantee's, he attempted to ban everyone from certain countries, which just happened to be predominantly Muslin countries.

Trump did not say the Judge must recuse himself because he doesn't have that authority. He did say the judge should recuse himself because of his hispanic heritage. There was no fabrication, I don't have to. It's a fact.

No, trump didn't say, "Every Illegal immigrant was a rapist." He said, "They are rapist, murders and criminals." Again, no fabrication, it too is a fact and a quote.

What you say and what you do defines who you are. Trump's words and action have all of the characteristics of Racist tendencies. Look at his own staff for starters.
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You can make all of the excuses you want, but it still doesn't excuse Trumps actions and what he has said.

Regarding your "IF," there was nothing regarding guarantee's, he attempted to ban everyone from certain countries, which just happened to be predominantly Muslin countries.

Trump did not say the Judge must recuse himself because he doesn't have that authority. He did say the judge should recuse himself because of his hispanic heritage. There was no fabrication, I don't have to. It's a fact.

No, trump didn't say, "Every Illegal immigrant was a rapist." He said, "They are rapist, murders and criminals." Again, no fabrication, it too is a fact and a quote.

What you say and what you do defines who you are. Trump's words and action have all of the characteristics of Racist tendencies. Look at his own staff for starters.
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