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So you guys MUST be happy....Trumpy has once again done what he can to Isolate the US from our allies by unilaterally tearing up the Iran nuclear deal- Yes, I know Putin>Rupert>Faux news has told you the deal isn't working.....But EVERYONE else in the whole world has been stating it has been working......Iran has been allowing the inspections!

So what is our international diplomacy going to entail from now on? "Do as we say.....and we may still nuke you if we feel like it.....Oh and our >FORMER< allies- You can NOT trust the US EVER!"

This traitorous fool is destroying anything and everything this country has built or stands for and you guys hoot'n'holler how great it all is.....Why don't you go burn US flags and start flyin' the Russian flag.....

Trump is traitor selling the US out....But you guys are a bunch of fools to follow him into a dive straight into the ground- NEVER questioning ANYTHING he does!
 

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So you guys MUST be happy....Trumpy has once again done what he can to Isolate the US from our allies by unilaterally tearing up the Iran nuclear deal- Yes, I know Putin>Rupert>Faux news has told you the deal isn't working.....But EVERYONE else in the whole world has been stating it has been working......Iran has been allowing the inspections!

So what is our international diplomacy going to entail from now on? "Do as we say.....and we may still nuke you if we feel like it.....Oh and our >FORMER< allies- You can NOT trust the US EVER!"

This traitorous fool is destroying anything and everything this country has built or stands for and you guys hoot'n'holler how great it all is.....Why don't you go burn US flags and start flyin' the Russian flag.....

Trump is traitor selling the US out....But you guys are a bunch of fools to follow him into a dive straight into the ground- NEVER questioning ANYTHING he does!
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This agreement Hussein made was not ratified by Congress and is not binding. Anyone with 1/2 a brain knows it was a stupid premise. The inspectors of Iran's military/scientific sites, are not allowed to inspect ALL of the sites. What do you suppose is going on there?
The exit of the agreement is Trump's way of negotiating a new agreement. Bolton is going to the Europe to talk to the signatories about a new deal.
 

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But what will ever work? You know that the evil mussys are un-trustable, so we need to nuke the whole country and eliminate the problem....Remember, the main mission of chumpy is to isolate the US so that we can not in any way slow down or stop Putin from re-assmebling the USSR and absorbing Europe and becoming the world's main superpower.

We MUSt make it clear to the whole world that we are untrustworthy and will not abide by any agreement.......That way, we will look tough and be bad-azz(Hole)......

Remember- anything trumpy does is not good- no! It is great!!! and will be the best thing for our country...(Faux/Rupert/Putin is telling you so!!!)

I was on a carrier during the "Iran crisis" and hated the Iranians....Then I started reading about how the CIA went in and overthrew their >>>Elected leader<<< and re-installed the Shah at the bequest of the OIl industry......which led directly to the whole Iran/US conflict....For some reason they see the US as completely untrustable....Kind of like the american indians....(Can't they understand that our word is rock-solid(Until we want something more)

Never trust a white man's word.....they lie, cheat and steal.....(And sleep with pornstars (That's ok as long as you're a "Good, WHITE, Christian")
 

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So you guys MUST be happy....Trumpy has once again done what he can to Isolate the US from our allies by unilaterally tearing up the Iran nuclear deal- Yes, I know Putin>Rupert>Faux news has told you the deal isn't working.....But EVERYONE else in the whole world has been stating it has been working......Iran has been allowing the inspections!

So what is our international diplomacy going to entail from now on? "Do as we say.....and we may still nuke you if we feel like it.....Oh and our >FORMER< allies- You can NOT trust the US EVER!"

This traitorous fool is destroying anything and everything this country has built or stands for and you guys hoot'n'holler how great it all is.....Why don't you go burn US flags and start flyin' the Russian flag.....

Trump is traitor selling the US out....But you guys are a bunch of fools to follow him into a dive straight into the ground- NEVER questioning ANYTHING he does!
You are the last person that should be throwing the word "Fool" around.
 

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What does the US gain by pulling out of the agreement? Nothing
There is not a plan B, or an alternate plan.
The agreement may not have been everything we would like, but now there is nothing. How is that good?
Europe will keep their agreement and IRAN doesn't need the US's approval.
We may have had a short stick, but now there is no stick.

Even on FOX News, they pointed out the US cannot withdraw from the agreement as there is no provision.
The US can only violate the agreement. How does that make the US look to anyone around the world and keeping our word or honoring agreements?
Why should other countries keep their part of agreements?

That is a Trump trademark. Have an agreement and then back out?
Iran already received their financial repayment, so what do we have now?

This how Trump operates. Negative news about him, so he creates a crisis.
 

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Jim.....These dumb-buns can't see that everything Chumpy does is to make the more isolated or to set our economy up for a big crash....EXACTLY what Putin wants.....

Here is the basic scenario; Bury the US in debt by ELIMINATING taxes on anyone over 1 million (But not the middle class or poor- so no help for the real economy), then isolate the US so that NO-ONE will be willing to help us out at all, and then crash the US economy; This will lead to a depression that will last DECADES.....and Russia re-assembles the USSR and dominates the world from then on.....

These guys will be all hootin' 'n' and hollerin' about how great richy-rich is doing until the crash...and then they will blame OBama or Clinton.......And then their kids and grandkids will live in a collapsed-economy 3rd-world level US.......

Notice that along with all the Russian involvement, all the asinine decisions that chumpy is making (Against economic advisors and military) he is also trying to neutralize our security services, the FBI and CIA...How will these agencies stop the Russians when half the US is screaming how they are no good and want to bring in RUSSIAN agencies to take over our security?

Doc-y stated how Putin is a "Good Christian we can trust" and "Not bent on global domination"!!! Drank the russian koolaid and then ate the cup too!
 

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LOL Liberal idiots. Side deals that we don't know about will come to light now the fake deal has been canned.

https://nypost.com/2017/12/18/obama-protected-hezbollah-drug-ring-to-save-iran-nukes-deal/

I don't know what liberal or conservative has to do with this, nor do I think you get the point. Whatever we got, no matter how bad you think it was from the Iranian agreement, was just thrown away and we got nothing. Irans time table for restarting their programs was just moved up to now, and not 5 or 10 years from now.

I fail to see your logic on this. What purpose did pulling out benefit the US?


Did you see the movie MADE IN AMERICA?
Yes, it's just a movie, but it's reasonably accurate, as Oliver North testified to during the Iran-Contra hearings.
The CIA facilitated the guns-drugs-money plan.
The Liberals were not in power at the time.
 

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I get the point and it's wrong. But nice dance around what I posted jim.

I don't know what liberal or conservative has to do with this, nor do I think you get the point. Whatever we got, no matter how bad you think it was from the Iranian agreement, was just thrown away and we got nothing. Irans time table for restarting their programs was just moved up to now, and not 5 or 10 years from now.

I fail to see your logic on this. What purpose did pulling out benefit the US?


Did you see the movie MADE IN AMERICA?
Yes, it's just a movie, but it's reasonably accurate, as Oliver North testified to during the Iran-Contra hearings.
The CIA facilitated the guns-drugs-money plan.
The Liberals were not in power at the time.
 

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I get the point and it's wrong. But nice dance around what I posted jim.
I'm not clear on your meaning regarding, "I get the point and it's wrong." Do mean pulling out is wrong, or in your opinion, my position is wrong?
Sorry if I danced, but whatever deals were made haven't changed and aren't part of the agreement the US is breaking.

You do realize that Trump is known more for failing to live up to agreements than he is for being a negotiator, I hope.
 

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How is the JCPOA (IRAN nuke deal)a valid agreement when Iran NEVER signed it and the American people (Congress) opposed it?
Pulling out of this rogue Obama Deal opens up our options such as negotiating a Real Deal via Congressional approval, reinforcing sanctions and closing/blocking Iran's unobstructed pathway to build and test nukes via any means we deem necessary. When a country constantly chants "Death to America", it would be wise to listen, and not try to pay them off.

The only reasons most of our so-called allies are "sticking to the agreement" is because they have skin in the game and this "deal" could enhance their troubled economies....all comes down to money........ Someone has to be the adult in the room and stop this insane madness.......his name is Trump.
 

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Remember, you don't have to pay any attention to what anything says, what is written, etc....The deciding factor for these "Patriots" is......."Is it good for Trump and "their side"?"

These guys don't care about the US, they only care about "Their guys" being in control.......They would (Actually ARE) burn the constitution to further their own narrow interests.......Anyone who disagrees with them will be called a "Liberal snow-flake fool" and pushed aside....

I would call them brain-washed, but they are more brain-dead......We are seeing the death of the US and freedom, and the beginning of a new form of Feudalism....The oligarchies will run things, anyone who is part of a ruling family will be allowed to do anything, and noone below one million will be allowed to own land.......

The perfect proof of their hypocrisy is that the changed the tax law to make people OVER 1 million have a lower tax rate than the middle class, and at the same time exploded the deficit to new highs.......There isn't one of them that really believes that any of the extra money for the ultra-rich will create more jobs here in the US.....Our economy is slated to crash very soon......."Set the pins up, and then knock 'em down!" (Remember how they were all celebrating the Cheney/Bush admin' until the crash and then blamed it on liberals?)

Simple question (Again); How would you explain Trump and "Putin love" to Ike?
 

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The only reasons most of our so-called allies are "sticking to the agreement" is because they have skin in the game and this "deal" could enhance their troubled economies....all comes down to money........ Someone has to be the adult in the room and stop this insane madness.......his name is Trump.

A) There are 2 reasons for EVERYTHING Chumpy does; 1) IS he getting money from whatever he has the US do? and, 2) Putin pulled on the string around his tiny nut-sack.......


What is absolutely laughable is you saying "Someone has to be the adult" in the same sentence with tiny-boy chumpy's name......if he were any more immature he would not be able to talk....except maybe "Momma"......Or "Daddy Putin".....You are listening (Intently) to Faux/Rupert/Putin news and are thoroughly.....Indoctrinated.....(I'd say brain-washed but tho there may be soap.......)
 

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A) There are 2 reasons for EVERYTHING Chumpy does; 1) IS he getting money from whatever he has the US do? and, 2) Putin pulled on the string around his tiny nut-sack.......


What is absolutely laughable is you saying "Someone has to be the adult" in the same sentence with tiny-boy chumpy's name......if he were any more immature he would not be able to talk....except maybe "Momma"......Or "Daddy Putin".....You are listening (Intently) to Faux/Rupert/Putin news and are thoroughly.....Indoctrinated.....(I'd say brain-washed but tho there may be soap.......)


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Why do you guys think that Putin is such a good guy? Why do you think you can trust him? Why do you want him to take over the US? Why do you want to shut down the FBI and the CIA?

Why, in point of fact, do you want to destroy this country? Everything you do, is aimed squarely at wrecking this country; Making the rich the "New Royalty" who can not be taxed or tried in court, allowing the rich to buy elections and judges, requiring a state religion, running the country on deficits, eliminating any of our network of allies, be-friending dictators like Kimmy and of course, your hero, Putin...

Eisenhower would have you guys thrown in jail as traitors....But then again, you hate Ike, and Reagan and Nixon- even Lincoln!
 

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We can take up a collection to buy cvx a "My Pillow". He may be able to sleep well and restart his brain cells.

Perhaps you can explain how the US is better off violating the Iranian agreement since you apparently think it's a good idea to violate the agreement. Keep in mind that whatever agreement that was reached we got concessions and they got concessions and a lot of their money back. Because of violating the agreement, Iran no longer needs to uphold any of their agreement now and they still have the money. What did we get. Nothing.
Sounds like we are the big loser.

Just to be clear, an agreement is an agreement and not a contract. It does seem odd that SNIC would indicate it might not be valid, as the most of the world seems to think it's a valid agreement.
On July 14, 2015, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action between Iran and the P5+1 and EU, a comprehensive agreement based on the April 2015 framework, was announced. Negotiations for a framework deal over the nuclear program of Iran took place between the foreign ministers of the countries at a series of meetings held from March 26 to April 2, 2015 in Lausanne, Switzerland. On April 2 the talks came to a conclusion and a press conference was held by Federica Mogherini (High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy) and Mohammad Javad Zarif (Minister of Foreign Affairs of Iran) to announce that the eight parties had reached an agreement on a framework deal.

SNIC somehow just makes up whatever he wants, along with everyone else who admires Trump.

This is how SNIC tried to explain it.
 

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This is how SNIC tried to explain it.
Make up whatever I want?.....Prove me wrong... answer this one simple question:
How is the Iran "deal" valid per the Constitution of these United States?
Hint: Iran NEVER signed it, which is irrelevant because We the People via Congress did not agree to it or ratify it.....and matter of fact....the majority of Congress opposed it and foreign minster's opinions are moot and do not speak for We the People....never have....never will.

I have to laugh at you fools who hold Obama as your god. I am thoroughly enjoying watching you haters squirm, bitch, and cry as Trump erases your god's legacy of aggression toward the United States, our citizens, and the American dream.
MAGA!....BEST ELECTION EVER! :party-smiley-020:

And BTW, why did you point out "This is how SNIC tried to explain it". ...Who designated you as this Forum's narrator? :dunno:
Do you not understand that other posters can see and evaluate my posts for themselves? :)sphss....careful Mr Hater...your anger and vile Liberal fueled hatred is spewing out again....but then again..it always has ...... but it's ok.....it's obvious your Butt Hurt .... try some of this:



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Make up whatever I want?.....Prove me wrong... answer this one simple question: How is the Iran "deal" valid per the Constitution of these United States? Hint: Iran NEVER signed it, which is irrelevant because We the People via Congress did not agree to it or ratify it.....and matter of fact....the majority of Congress opposed it and foreign minster's opinions are moot and do not speak for We the People....never have....never will. I have to laugh at you fools who hold Obama as your god. I am thoroughly enjoying watching you haters squirm, bitch, and cry as Trump erases your god's legacy of aggression toward the United States, our citizens, and the American dream.
MAGA!....BEST ELECTION EVER! :party-smiley-020:​
And BTW, why did you point out "This is how SNIC tried to explain it". ...Who designated you as this Forum's narrator? :dunno: Do you not understand that other posters can see and evaluate my posts for themselves? :)sphss....careful Mr Hater...your anger and vile Liberal fueled hatred is spewing out again....but then again..it always has ...... but it's ok.....it's obvious your Butt Hurt .... try some of this:
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I'm not sure how you see the Constitution having anything to do with agreements. The Constitution doesn't address that. So, as I said you make up whatever you want.As far as, "This is how SNIC tried to explain it". ...Who designated you as this Forum's narrator? I posted a simple statement, which has nothing to do with being a narrator for this forum. You posted a goofy image that was just that, another one of your goofy generic images that had no meaning, but it is how you replied to another post. You have every right to post in your own goofy way I guess.Just because I think your posts are stupid, doesn't mean I'm angry. Maybe in your world you have to be angry to disagree, but not in mine.Your postings are a good example of Trump supports and mentality, or lack off.I'll admit I do get a little tired of your labeling everything a liberal this or conservative that. Until you learn the meanings and how it applies to people, you'll continue showing a lack of education and knowledge.You can continue being angry now.
 
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