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Since you infected 19Cp's thread, I thought we could start fresh. :)hand

You've got it wrong, like usual. All last year you showed up in a big, slow coal burner, except once. I didn't have my boat there that time. Sorry it gave you a migrane and made you cry.
Really, Slick??? Funny because I've taken that boat out exactly 3 times over the last 2 summers.

The other time you talk about was with RiverRacers boat, not me. Strange how YOU had the guy banned by crying, and YOU STILL refer to him, isn't it.
Bottom line is RR GOT HIMSELF BANNED. If you want to rehash that fiasco I can post what got him banned and let everybody decide for themselves.

He wouldn't waste his time on you then, and it's even worse now. You can load up all the NOS you like on your "NEW" big incher. It won't do you any good, so don't waste his time.
hil:).....He wouldn't waste his time because he didn't want to get embarrassed. He got called out time and time again and just stood on the bluff. And until you guys figure out how to setup that half throttle pedal bow eye dragger....the Hallett would embarrass him even more with his 1100 HP Millbert power. Newsflash.....throw all the power in the world at it and it still isn't going anywhere without the proper hardwear and setup but good luck with that since you guys obviously have a handle on it.

And riddle me this....Since when is a 501 considerd a big incher?

I'm a different story there, ACE. I'll be your Huckleberry any time were there at the same time. I doubt that'll happen due to your habit of talking rather than racing, but if you want to, I'm there.
hil:)....Funny...I talk more than race....hil:)hil:)hil:) Well then, how bout this, Champ. I'm calling you out to run against the Hallett at Ming next March. You and I can run the River Racer class heads up and let the time slip say who wins. I'll even go a step further and pay your entry. That gives you 5 months to fix your valve springs or rocker arm or whatever don't work right while my Hallett sits in the garage under the cover like it does every winter. And just so there aren't any suprises for you, I'll let you in on this little secret....The finsh line at Ming is perpendicular to the race course :))eek:)) If you win, I'll be right there at the outramp to congratulate you and I'll be the first one to post how you crushed me. My River Boat against your Trailer Queen.


Did we ever figure out what your function was for RCR there, ACE???
I think I have.
So why don't you fill me in? You seem to be hung up on team "Were Soooo Bitchen" and Red Cup and whatever my affiliation may be. Why don't you just come out and say whatever you're trying to get at because I don't see your point. Unlike you and your dad, I don't believe in talking shit via PM. If you have something to say just say it already.

I'll be at Ming in March and waiting for whatever excuse you come up with.
 

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Since you infected 19Cp's thread, I thought we could start fresh. :)hand



Really, Slick??? Funny because I've taken that boat out exactly 3 times over the last 2 summers.



Bottom line is RR GOT HIMSELF BANNED. If you want to rehash that fiasco I can post what got him banned and let everybody decide for themselves.



hil:).....He wouldn't waste his time because he didn't want to get embarrassed. He got called out time and time again and just stood on the bluff. And until you guys figure out how to setup that half throttle pedal bow eye dragger....the Hallett would embarrass him even more with his 1100 HP Millbert power. Newsflash.....throw all the power in the world at it and it still isn't going anywhere without the proper hardwear and setup but good luck with that since you guys obviously have a handle on it.

And riddle me this....Since when is a 501 considerd a big incher?



hil:)....Funny...I talk more than race....hil:)hil:)hil:) Well then, how bout this, Champ. I'm calling you out to run against the Hallett at Ming next March. You and I can run the River Racer class heads up and let the time slip say who wins. I'll even go a step further and pay your entry. That gives you 5 months to fix your valve springs or rocker arm or whatever don't work right while my Hallett sits in the garage under the cover like it does every winter. And just so there aren't any suprises for you, I'll let you in on this little secret....The finsh line at Ming is perpendicular to the race course :))eek:)) If you win, I'll be right there at the outramp to congratulate you and I'll be the first one to post how you crushed me. My River Boat against your Trailer Queen.




So why don't you fill me in? You seem to be hung up on team "Were Soooo Bitchen" and Red Cup and whatever my affiliation may be. Why don't you just come out and say whatever you're trying to get at because I don't see your point. Unlike you and your dad, I don't believe in talking shit via PM. If you have something to say just say it already.

I'll be at Ming in March and waiting for whatever excuse you come up with.
Well if your so sure about it, why not pay RiverRacer's entry also? That way you can prove that your more than just a redcup ass gasket!
 

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First off, Mud, I didn't 'infect' anything. I told him to look you or Randy up as you were both experienced and speedy.

I saw you in YOUR RACING BOAT 1 time last summer, and that was without my boat being there. Don't confuse me with RiverRacer.

Bottom line is, YOU got him banned. After my brother died a week before July 4th, YOU continued to talk your crap. You would have thought that NORMAL people just having fun would have backed off for awhile, but NOT you and some of your buddies. My father was in shock, and reacted the way most men would. He sent you a PM to tell you to stop the grinding or there would be a problem. Yes, he told you it might escalate if you guys didn't. Instead of considering the gravity of what had just happened a week ago, you took it to the Admin, and they made the decision to ban him. He could care less, but in my opinion what you did wasn't required at all, and it made you and the others small men. Some of RCR didn't say a word, but most did. We hope none of you ever have to go thru something like that.

The hardware and setup is being handled by us, so don't lose any sleep over it.

You DON'T have a 501 anymore. Your engine sounds different that it did last year and you were out here looking for parts and C-12. Your not a good street racer or poker player, so go convince someone else. I still have my Iron Headed 472" with 1 Carb, so your again a REAL MAN wanting to race me with you 557/598 or ??? with 2 Carbs and NOS.

As for you calling me out, why not call BOTH OF US OUT?????? RiverRacer and I could both be beat down and embarrassed by your race boat. Just PAY BOTH ENTRY FEES FOR RIVERRACER CLASS AND WE'LL BE THERE.

To make it fair, my Dad says he'll race you with your NOS. You can race me 1 race WITH, and one race WITHOUT it. After all, my 600 hp is not much compared to you stated 850 deal.

If you win, it's over, if I win, it's over If we both(RiverRacer and I) win, it's over.

That's it. Now start making excuses yourself, ACE. :)hand
 

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You DON'T have a 501 anymore. Your engine sounds different that it did last year and you were out here looking for parts and C-12. Your not a good street racer or poker player, so go convince someone else. I still have my Iron Headed 472" with 1 Carb, so your again a REAL MAN wanting to race me with you 557/598 or ??? with 2 Carbs and NOS.
as an outsider, it seems like he stepped up into bigboy territory. if u wanna race him for whatever reason it looks like you're gonna get spanked. he doesnt need to be a "street racer" or a "poker player"... he's got more cubes, more power. that sounds more like a "real man" than someone moaning because they're slower.

sorry to hear about your loss and whatever happened forum wise but you cant knock someone for upgrading.

whatever happened to sportsmanship and a good race then knockin back a few cold ones and talking about "the next time!" ???
 

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I've got his boat covered, dude. I don't care what he does to upgrade it, that's up to him.

I do care about the fact that he was the FIRST to dump Kerosene on a fire 3 months ago. Stupid move, considering what had happened a week before.

That's my take, as it was my younger brother.

It's his move now. We'll see what excuses he comes up with to back down.

As far as "whatever happened to sportsmanship and a good race then knockin back a few cold ones and talking about "the next time!" ???" that was never offered to us 5-6 years ago. It's a joke to us, but deadly serious to them. You figure it out.

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Can you two just do a best of 2 out of 3 or better yet 3 out of 5 and get it over with :)bulb

But don't race to the power lines ;)

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Crap, shoulda grabbed some popcorn...:D

Alex dont be startin crap, you and i have some unfished racing to do to pal....:D. We just do it for beers though lol. Let me know when you come back to phoenix bud. Hey did jay ever get a hold of you guys.
 

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Hey mud, is the douche move true? Did you really keep up the bullshit after a loss of a brother?
Glad you asked.....I'll post EXACTLY how it went down and you tell me.

Nutswinger 2002CP19 started a thread after 4th of July regarding a race between Turtle and HBJet. I didn't even know those guys raced, I wasn't there to see it. Neither do I know who 2002CP19 is, pretty sure I have never met him. You can read the thread here but I'll post the short of it...http://www.performanceboats.com//showthread.php?t=68970

2002CP19 posted this referring to the race:
Got a call about one that went down at Lost Lake. I wonder if it will be told here how it really went down. Doubt it!!:)hand
Then HBJet posted video of the race and I responded to CP19's post with this:

Looks like that video tells how it really went down now.....doesn't it? Just Sayin!!! ;)
Then a huge debate started over the diagonal finish line wire at Lost Lake and I posted this:

No matter what side of the wire you are on....it was a good race.
I then got a PM from River Racer that I will not post but in short he makes a bunch of threats of violence toward me and the members of Red Cup.

I responded with THIS PM:
MudPumper said:
Dennis....Let me just say I understand you have some anger built up and in light of what you are referring to, I completely understand. That is why I'll let your statements slide and not take them personally. Nobody is attacking or saying anything negative about anybody in your family. I don't know who that cp19 guy is but he is the one that started flappin, Randy posted a video and that is it. It was just a race. Maybe you should take it up with whoever 2002cp19 is. Please re-think what you are upset about and direct your aggression into a more positive direction...nobody is bashing you or anybody from your family, Dennis.

I'll finish by saying I am truly sorry for your loss. I wouldn't wish anything you are going through on anybody....EVER.

Mike
I then CUT OFF ALL CONTACT with RR and Turtle. Since that time, I have not PM'd or posted anything referring to RR or Turtle. I just ignore anything that comes out of their camp because it's so rediculous. Then last week I got a PM from Turtle wanting to know if I was the Team Red Cup Urinal or Doorstop and he want's to know what my function is???? I don't know what he's getting at other than just talking shit for no reason. Then he posts up about me and HBJet in some thread about GPS's and how its proven his boat is faster than mine even though we have never raced. Like I said, I've never brought him up once. He obviously wants my attention so I started this thread and you can see how retarded it's gonna get.....Whatever. I'm over it but if he want's my attention that bad he, can have it because frankly it's straight comedy and gives me a good laugh with all the shit he just makes up.

But you tell me if I really made a douche move or not because I really don't see it?????? I've been nothing but nice to RiverRacer time and time again and for the most part stayed out of the majority of threads that have been started here where he ends up getting slammed....I can't count the times I've actually defended him but for whatever reason I'M ON THEIR radar even though I completely avoid them. You tell me.;)
 

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PMs are just that, private. Without seeing or wanting that info, I'd say from seeing the thread, I'd say it wasn't a douche move. It's funny/sad how things can go on the boards.
 

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PMs are just that, private. Without seeing or wanting that info, I'd say from seeing the thread, I'd say it wasn't a douche move. It's funny/sad how things can go on the boards.
Glad you agree.;) It's exactly how shit went down, I got nothing to hide. If I act like an ass, I'm the first one to admit it.
 

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I saw you in YOUR RACING BOAT 1 time last summer
Racing boat....that's rich.hil:) My heavy ass 77 Hallet with full interior...LOL

You DON'T have a 501 anymore. Your engine sounds different that it did last year and you were out here looking for parts and C-12. Your not a good street racer or poker player, so go convince someone else. I still have my Iron Headed 472" with 1 Carb, so your again a REAL MAN wanting to race me with you 557/598 or ??? with 2 Carbs and NOS.
You're such a tool....My motor is 501CID, 10.5-1 compression, and has NEVER run on race gas. It dyno'd 675 HP on pump gas. You want to know why it sounds different????? Because Miller locked out my timing jack ass...he did it in the carport at Lost Lake, ask him.

What parts was I looking for and when was I looking for race gas???? It never happened. The only race gas that has ever been in my boat is the 1 Gallon of it that sits in my Nitrous Enrichment tank....and that fuel comes from CS19 so please do tell when I was looking for parts and C-12 because it NEVER happened. The only parts that were changed in my boat was the oil pan and pump because I had oil pressure problems.....and the crank was changed from cast to forged and kept the exact same stroke.

As for you calling me out, why not call BOTH OF US OUT?????? RiverRacer and I could both be beat down and embarrassed by your race boat. Just PAY BOTH ENTRY FEES FOR RIVERRACER CLASS AND WE'LL BE THERE.
You got called out because for whatever reason you have a hard on for me lately with the PM and posts. I wasn't giving you a thought in the world but you felt the need to start flappin and bringing my name up. Your entry is covered so show up.

To make it fair, my Dad says he'll race you with your NOS. You can race me 1 race WITH, and one race WITHOUT it. After all, my 600 hp is not much compared to you stated 850 deal.

If you win, it's over, if I win, it's over If we both(RiverRacer and I) win, it's over.

That's it. Now start making excuses yourself, ACE. :)hand
See...here we go again with the TO MAKE IT FAIR bullshit. Bring your pile to the race and shut up and run.....It's racing on a fair court....no getting the jump...no crooked finish line for you to get to first so you can say you won...just heads up racing and the time slip calls the winner. If I win I won't even say shit about it....If you win you can FLAP all you want about how big your dick is. Contrary to your beliefs, Red Cup doesn't give a shit who wins or loses, we just want to see boats race and go fast. My boat runs mid 90's on motor and maybe 105 ish on NOS. NO SECRETS HERE.:)hand
 

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I do care about the fact that he was the FIRST to dump Kerosene on a fire 3 months ago. Stupid move, considering what had happened a week before.
That's my take, as it was my younger brother.
You might want to see my above post and re-evaluate your take since it's just a little skewed. But whatever....believe what you wan't, I could give a shit.:)hand

I'm done with this.....I'll see you on the rope.......WATCH THE LIGHTS!!!!!!
 
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